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tick75

This is werid scratch crashes for no reason this is only for IOS 17 / IPADOS 17

It’s only a temporary solution but if you reset your apple device scratch will start working for a some time

gregatku

colinmacc wrote:
Well a project of mine that WAS working (Battle Tanks) is now no longer working, I had to disable the cloud check at the start to make it work.
So it seems things are getting worse

I assume you got it working again post the maintenance weekend with the rename trick? But now you seem to saying you can't pre-read Cloud Variables at all now, all you can do is set them and get them recorded on the new Cloud Servers. Is that right? That sounds so much worse than it already was.

colinmacc

gregatku wrote:
colinmacc wrote:
Well a project of mine that WAS working (Battle Tanks) is now no longer working, I had to disable the cloud check at the start to make it work.
So it seems things are getting worse
I assume you got it working again post the maintenance weekend with the rename trick? But now you seem to saying you can't pre-read Cloud Variables at all now, all you can do is set them and get them recorded on the new Cloud Servers. Is that right? That sounds so much worse than it already was.

I'm not really sure anymore, it's just RokCoder mentioned that his Uno games weren't working because of the cloud check, so I looked at my Battle Tanks game (which I think is the only one I put a cloud check in), and that wasn't working. The fields had previously been renamed.

I'm so tired of this.

EDIT: I just remembered another one, Rally Racers, and yes, that was broken too.

Last edited by colinmacc (Sept. 27, 2023 12:13:31)

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NMario84

Yea…… So much for a support team…..
No one will respond, no one will even check these forums…..

EDIT: Okay umm…….. Now, not even Cloud Data history will load for me. When I tried looking into the history of different cloud data projects, it just kept giving me the loading circle…….. Is something “actually” going on, or is it just on my side? Or are we just getting more server issues?

Keep in mind that the Scratch forums HAVE gone down a couple times. Whether that is relevant, or it is something else entirely. :O

Last edited by NMario84 (Sept. 29, 2023 02:29:53)

gregatku

It's getting worse, now if you click on See Data from the Project Page of a Cloud Variable project, it freezes in an endless wait loop and doesn't show you anything? I'd like to think it's because ST are finally trying to fix the problem, but I very much doubt it.

dave3m

gregatku wrote:
now if you click on See Data from the Project Page of a Cloud Variable project, it freezes in an endless wait loop and doesn't show you anything?

This has been appearing quite frequently in the past month or so, though it usually resolves without so much time passing.

Just now, I tested writing and reading back data in one of my projects. Both were successful, even though the history log will not display for the project. The ‘forums are unavailable’ page also appeared early yesterday, something else that has been coming up more often of late.

I made a thing and it's kind of fun :

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Boss_1s

New problem: Cloud logs WILL NOT load…
I had a cloud monitor tab open for eternity and it never finished loading.

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NMario84

Interestingly enough, cloud projects like this one,
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/889957443/

You can see it still “working as intended”, despite the cloud data history logs NOT loading at all. I think the issue is that it could be using 2 servers. One server to actually make changes to the cloud variable, the 2nd server just shows the logs of who did what, maybe?

If the cloud data history can't load in the logs, then that SHOULD mean ANY cloud data should NOT be running on projects. This was actually the case months ago before all this nonsense.

medians

Boss_1s wrote:
New problem: Cloud logs WILL NOT load…
I had a cloud monitor tab open for eternity and it never finished loading.

Could replicate with my project, and I know for sure that these variables were higher or are supposed to be higher than what is shown here:

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Boss_1s

medians wrote:
Boss_1s wrote:
-snip-
Could replicate with my project, and I know for sure that these variables were higher or are supposed to be higher than what is shown here:
-snip-

This was exactly how it looked like on the tab that was open for eternity, and it's still like that.

NMario84 wrote:
-snip-

You can see it still “working as intended”, despite the cloud data history logs NOT loading at all. I think the issue is that it could be using 2 servers. One server to actually make changes to the cloud variable, the 2nd server just shows the logs of who did what, maybe?

-snip-

Maybe the 2nd server is down, so all the logs won't show up?

Tried to snip as much as possible…

Last edited by Boss_1s (Oct. 3, 2023 20:18:14)

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pause [this script v] for (1) seconds ::control
(() or ()::operators)
(() and ()::operators) //same as the boolean, but for reporting
<my boolean ::variables> //only stores true or false
show all variables::variables
hide all variable::variables
show all lists::list
hide all lists::list

…and more!

Alt accounts: @Boss_1sALT(for cloud testing and other stuff), @Boss_1sARCHIVE(Archive of older game versions)

Hi, my name is @Boss_1s!
I'm 12 years old, and I joined Scratch to relearn block coding.
Other projects:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/869604293/ - cool MMO platformer
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/792424859/ - This is my first ORIGINAL game.
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/914686250/ - NEW! Remixed an RPG from Griffpatch, though it's pretty boring right now…
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/895107188/ - NEW! Safe chat with anyone on Scratch, whitelist is present
Secret Special Advanced Project (SSAdP): COMPLETED!!! https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/946720515/

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NMario84

Scratch Team actually don't know how to manage Cloud Data. They hired engineers to set up Cloud Data for Scratch Projects for them.

Soon after, they were layed off due to not enough money to pay the engineers to keep Cloud Data management running.

The End.

TestCA1EB

NMario84 wrote:
Scratch Team actually don't know how to manage Cloud Data. They hired engineers to set up Cloud Data for Scratch Projects for them.

Soon after, they were layed off due to not enough money to pay the engineers to keep Cloud Data management running.

The End.

so we are just never getting them back until scratch decides to rehire the engineers or hire new ones?

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NMario84

TestCA1EB wrote:
so we are just never getting them back until scratch decides to rehire the engineers or hire new ones?

Unless Scratch Team says otherwise about the matter at hand, then yes.

This is about all that we can assume for now:
————————————————————–
1.) We're never getting old cloud data history back.

2.) New Scratch projects MUST rename cloud variables for it to “work”.

3.) The cloud log screen is broken on every project. (Added by colinmacc)

Last edited by NMario84 (Oct. 4, 2023 21:10:44)

colinmacc

3.) The cloud log screen is broken on every project.

Last edited by colinmacc (Oct. 4, 2023 20:58:22)

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NMario84

colinmacc wrote:
3.) The cloud log screen is broken on every project.

Well yea…. I was hoping that / this was temporary. But I guess if it's been like that for some time now, we might as well make a note of it.

Added to the “list”.

Last edited by NMario84 (Oct. 4, 2023 21:11:52)

ohwowanaccount16

NMario84 wrote:
Scratch Team actually don't know how to manage Cloud Data. They hired engineers to set up Cloud Data for Scratch Projects for them.

Soon after, they were layed off due to not enough money to pay the engineers to keep Cloud Data management running.

The End.

that makes sense.

oh, hello!

ohwowanaccount16

NMario84 wrote:
TestCA1EB wrote:
so we are just never getting them back until scratch decides to rehire the engineers or hire new ones?

Unless Scratch Team says otherwise about the matter at hand, then yes.

This is about all that we can assume for now:
————————————————————–
1.) We're never getting old cloud data history back.

2.) New Scratch projects MUST rename cloud variables for it to “work”.

3.) The cloud log screen is broken on every project. (Added by colinmacc)

so….. they cant bring back cloud variables?

oh, hello!

NMario84

We assume the older cloud variables are to this day “STILL” on the old servers, in which the Scratch Team no longer uses.

Like I said, unless Scratch Team has a word about this matter, we can only assume so much.
As it is, Scratch Team has NO plans to give us any word / answer on the situation…… Or they are too busy to worry about something like this.

That is all.

medians

I have no idea what's happening at this point with this website :-/
Also, I guess one of the oldest cloud projects, which contained cloud lists before they were removed, is completely dead then:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/10003919 (this was meant for 2.0 vs 1.x since 3.0 was not released yet, 2.0 wasn't even fully released yet but was only an alpha)

Last edited by medians (Oct. 5, 2023 03:42:43)

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hi875230163394: You're similar to valve in that you both hate a certain number…
Scratch 0.x, 1.x, 2.x, 3.x and LogoBlocks Archives
Bamboozlement: https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/33739789
Years on internet: 15 (soon 16)
medians: Oh god not this utc - 12 thing again..
Fun_Cupcake_i81: What, were you expecting not to see the utc - 12 thing again? THE UTC - 12 THIGN ALWAYS RETURNS. ALWAYS.
medians: I knew it would happen. I was the one who started it last year.
Fun_Cupcake_i81: Well then if you didn't want it back maybe you need to time travel to last year and fix that

Oh wait if you could time travel I think we all know exactly when you would go-
user1: That picture is from 2.0. Now he’s at my house and is my pet.
user2: But this is medians we're talking about, so “from 2.0” can mean the same thing as “from five seconds ago”.
Detect Scratch version here
My other accounts: @selfexplanatory @modesties @chaircard @fireflyhero @dividendyield @colloids @radians @skeuamorphism @dihectogon @anglebisector @aau- @EditBlockColors @AdamantOrb @MoongeistBeam @festively @Ampharos_ @straightforwardness
i trolled redcat LOL

if you see this

{what method did you use::control hat
answer on profile ::motion
} ::operators

;

NMario84

Technology…..

Why learn a language….. When something new is just going to replace it in 5-10 years from now?

Scratch 3.0 > 2.0 > 1.X

Though they REALLY shouldn't change/update the cloud data for every “new exciting update” comes to Scratch this way. That just seems to hurt the community, as well as hurting the trust of the Scratch Team.

Also, Page 80!

Last edited by NMario84 (Oct. 5, 2023 05:13:45)

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