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redhorse26_1
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Cloud variable history NEVER EVER LOADS. I tried disabling my addons and that did not work. pls fix
My browser / operating system: MacOS Macintosh X 10.15.7, Chrome 117.0.0.0, No Flash version detected
set [☁ Cloudmonitor v] to [Loading ...]

Last edited by redhorse26_1 (Oct. 5, 2023 07:07:16)

medians
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NMario84 wrote:

Technology…..

Why learn a language….. When something new is just going to replace it in 5-10 years from now?

Scratch 3.0 > 2.0 > 1.X
Opinion taken :-P

redhorse26_1 wrote:

Cloud variable history NEVER EVER LOADS.
My browser / operating system: MacOS Macintosh X 10.15.7, Chrome 117.0.0.0, No Flash version detected
set [☁ Cloudmonitor v] to [Loading ...]
Yeah the cloud servers seem to be down still:
https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu
Also, note to close tags so quotes aren’t messed up.

Medians bamboozled by 3.0 (version 3.0): https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/979822351/
hi875230163394: You're similar to valve in that you both hate a certain number…
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Bamboozlement: https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/33739789
Years on internet: 15 (soon 16)
medians: Oh god not this utc - 12 thing again..
Fun_Cupcake_i81: What, were you expecting not to see the utc - 12 thing again? THE UTC - 12 THIGN ALWAYS RETURNS. ALWAYS.
medians: I knew it would happen. I was the one who started it last year.
Fun_Cupcake_i81: Well then if you didn't want it back maybe you need to time travel to last year and fix that

Oh wait if you could time travel I think we all know exactly when you would go-
user1: That picture is from 2.0. Now he’s at my house and is my pet.
user2: But this is medians we're talking about, so “from 2.0” can mean the same thing as “from five seconds ago”.

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Leiferde
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I wrote to support because I haven't been able to evaluate my cloud variables for a long time. They answered me that there are currently no problems. Now that I'm reading something different here, I'm irritated.
TestCA1EB
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do cloud variables created after the switch (if i were to make one now for example) still work?

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dave3m
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TestCA1EB wrote:

do cloud variables created after the switch (if i were to make one now for example) still work?
According to colinmacc's test project, no, they might not.

You may still need to rename your brand new Cloud Variables in your new project to get them properly registered and working with the Cloud. Sadly, now we can't even see the Cloud history log for our projects, making troubleshooting even more difficult. I haven't tested this in the past week, myself, but this was the case after the problem started.


Best bet at the moment when starting a new project seems to be to:
- create your cloud variables with a temporary name;
- save your project (likely not required before the next step, but just in case);
- rename each cloud variable; and
- re-save your project.

The same last two steps would apply to existing projects. You can rename the variables back to what they were, but renaming them is the “tried and true” way (read: workaround) of forcing the variables to function within the Scratch Cloud. Without doing so, the project will appear to never read back the current value(s) from the Cloud.



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hollisVII
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I have been bothered currently because when I click the on the cloudmonitor, I wouldn’t load so I don’t know how to help
kyrasingh2
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well browser oprerating system might help!
medians
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kyrasingh2 wrote:

well browser oprerating system might help!
My browser / operating system: MacOS Macintosh X 11.3, Firefox 83.0, No Flash versions detected
My browser / operating system: MacOS Macintosh X 11.3, Chrome 115.0.0.0, Flash 32.0 (release 0)
My browser / operating system: MacOS Macintosh X 11.3, Chrome 116.0.0.0, Flash 32.0 (release 0)
My browser / operating system: MacOS Macintosh X 11.3, Chrome 117.0.0.0, Flash 32.0 (release 0)

Medians bamboozled by 3.0 (version 3.0): https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/979822351/
hi875230163394: You're similar to valve in that you both hate a certain number…
Scratch 0.x, 1.x, 2.x, 3.x and LogoBlocks Archives
Bamboozlement: https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/33739789
Years on internet: 15 (soon 16)
medians: Oh god not this utc - 12 thing again..
Fun_Cupcake_i81: What, were you expecting not to see the utc - 12 thing again? THE UTC - 12 THIGN ALWAYS RETURNS. ALWAYS.
medians: I knew it would happen. I was the one who started it last year.
Fun_Cupcake_i81: Well then if you didn't want it back maybe you need to time travel to last year and fix that

Oh wait if you could time travel I think we all know exactly when you would go-
user1: That picture is from 2.0. Now he’s at my house and is my pet.
user2: But this is medians we're talking about, so “from 2.0” can mean the same thing as “from five seconds ago”.

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My other accounts: @selfexplanatory @modesties @chaircard @fireflyhero @dividendyield @colloids @radians @skeuamorphism @dihectogon @anglebisector @aau- @EditBlockColors @AdamantOrb @MoongeistBeam @festively @Ampharos_ @straightforwardness
i trolled redcat LOL





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gregatku
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Leiferde wrote:

I wrote to support because I haven't been able to evaluate my cloud variables for a long time. They answered me that there are currently no problems. Now that I'm reading something different here, I'm irritated.
Yep, that's what they've been saying ever since the Maintenance Weekend … they still don't think they have a problem Yet Cloud Variables have been completely stuffed since then, and a week or 2 after that it got even worse where “See Data” no longer reports anything at all, it juts gets stuck in an infinite wait loop. Says a lot about their competence when it comes to testing?

But the most annoying and disappointing thing of all is the fact that this discussion thread, made sticky and created by a Scratch Team member (who probably isn't active anymore), no longer serves its purpose. And that probably goes the same for the whole Bugs & Glitches forum. It's token forum now, and never viewed by any ST member I suspect. It's now just a Forum for us Scratchers to vent. Makes me want to start looking around for an alternative tool to teach Coding with.
medians
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gregatku wrote:

Leiferde wrote:

I wrote to support because I haven't been able to evaluate my cloud variables for a long time. They answered me that there are currently no problems. Now that I'm reading something different here, I'm irritated.
Yep, that's what they've been saying ever since the Maintenance Weekend … they still don't think they have a problem Yet Cloud Variables have been completely stuffed since then, and a week or 2 after that it got even worse where “See Data” no longer reports anything at all, it juts gets stuck in an infinite wait loop. Says a lot about their competence when it comes to testing?

But the most annoying and disappointing thing of all is the fact that this discussion thread, made sticky and created by a Scratch Team member (who probably isn't active anymore), no longer serves its purpose. And that probably goes the same for the whole Bugs & Glitches forum. It's token forum now, and never viewed by any ST member I suspect. It's now just a Forum for us Scratchers to vent. Makes me want to start looking around for an alternative tool to teach Coding with.
Yeah, the guy who made this topic isn't a Scratch Team member anymore, and left Scratch a long time ago. This guy was a Scratch Team member during the 2.0 alpha:
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/1664/
Also, I'm needing help with my project too:


I know for sure that the variables are meant to be higher than this (basically you click to increase the number, but I did that more than once and never reset it after that), but they won't increase at all now (when I refresh it's just gone), and seemingly reverted or sth. This is really annoying, and is probably worse than what was happening a few months ago (at least we could see the logs, basically all the values were reverting, and it seems to be happening again).

Last edited by medians (Oct. 7, 2023 13:45:38)


Medians bamboozled by 3.0 (version 3.0): https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/979822351/
hi875230163394: You're similar to valve in that you both hate a certain number…
Scratch 0.x, 1.x, 2.x, 3.x and LogoBlocks Archives
Bamboozlement: https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/33739789
Years on internet: 15 (soon 16)
medians: Oh god not this utc - 12 thing again..
Fun_Cupcake_i81: What, were you expecting not to see the utc - 12 thing again? THE UTC - 12 THIGN ALWAYS RETURNS. ALWAYS.
medians: I knew it would happen. I was the one who started it last year.
Fun_Cupcake_i81: Well then if you didn't want it back maybe you need to time travel to last year and fix that

Oh wait if you could time travel I think we all know exactly when you would go-
user1: That picture is from 2.0. Now he’s at my house and is my pet.
user2: But this is medians we're talking about, so “from 2.0” can mean the same thing as “from five seconds ago”.

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My other accounts: @selfexplanatory @modesties @chaircard @fireflyhero @dividendyield @colloids @radians @skeuamorphism @dihectogon @anglebisector @aau- @EditBlockColors @AdamantOrb @MoongeistBeam @festively @Ampharos_ @straightforwardness
i trolled redcat LOL





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NMario84
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Scratch Team LITERALLY doesn't care about cloud data.
Rubeebs
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There is a problem where when I go to view cloud data it does the loading wheel forever and never actually loads it
NMario84
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We've known about that for days now.

Oh yea guess what? Scratch Team doesn't care about Cloud Data. They layed off the only engineers to have taken care of it. What does that say about the staff, and the community?

Not very good.
mas6y6
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MY PROJECT IS NOT WORKING

Hi i am mas6y6 i am the maker and owner for Scratch Cloud



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mas6y6
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And cloud varables are broken

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NMario84
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Have you tried just renaming all your cloud variables? We were told that sometimes “works”.

Despite all the nonsense, this is the only workaround we have, and Scratch Team refuses to fix the cloud data for all old projects shared pre maintenance day.

Last edited by NMario84 (Oct. 10, 2023 05:33:24)

medians
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NMario84 wrote:

Have you tried just renaming all your cloud variables? We were told that sometimes “works”.

Despite all the nonsense, this is the only workaround we have, and Scratch Team refuses to fix the cloud data for all old projects shared pre maintenance day.
No, but if it “sometimes” does, I'm scared , and I don't think I'm gonna do an update to my project that doesn't really add it to the project this time, and until this is fixed :-/
Also, I doubt these people will just come on Scratch again and update these projects:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/10003919
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/218212897/
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/199069537/
(nfed cloud vote)
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/323038580/
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/151806603/
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/149572836/ (this was already broken anyway lol and you can see my pain in the comments)

Medians bamboozled by 3.0 (version 3.0): https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/979822351/
hi875230163394: You're similar to valve in that you both hate a certain number…
Scratch 0.x, 1.x, 2.x, 3.x and LogoBlocks Archives
Bamboozlement: https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/33739789
Years on internet: 15 (soon 16)
medians: Oh god not this utc - 12 thing again..
Fun_Cupcake_i81: What, were you expecting not to see the utc - 12 thing again? THE UTC - 12 THIGN ALWAYS RETURNS. ALWAYS.
medians: I knew it would happen. I was the one who started it last year.
Fun_Cupcake_i81: Well then if you didn't want it back maybe you need to time travel to last year and fix that

Oh wait if you could time travel I think we all know exactly when you would go-
user1: That picture is from 2.0. Now he’s at my house and is my pet.
user2: But this is medians we're talking about, so “from 2.0” can mean the same thing as “from five seconds ago”.

Detect Scratch version here
My other accounts: @selfexplanatory @modesties @chaircard @fireflyhero @dividendyield @colloids @radians @skeuamorphism @dihectogon @anglebisector @aau- @EditBlockColors @AdamantOrb @MoongeistBeam @festively @Ampharos_ @straightforwardness
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colinmacc
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Leiferde wrote:

I wrote to support because I haven't been able to evaluate my cloud variables for a long time. They answered me that there are currently no problems. Now that I'm reading something different here, I'm irritated.

Really? That's ridiculous. They're so obviously broken.
I'll send an email to contact us too.

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lZXTVhCSVlr
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redhorse26_1 wrote:

Cloud variable history NEVER EVER LOADS. I tried disabling my addons and that did not work. pls fix
My browser / operating system: MacOS Macintosh X 10.15.7, Chrome 117.0.0.0, No Flash version detected
set [☁ Cloudmonitor v] to [Loading ...]

clouddata.scratch.mit.edu seems to be redirtecting to itself, so the browser tries to open the new(same) address and it then redirects again. and then again and again and….

here are some lines of the result when trying to use
“wget clouddata.scratch.mit.edu”:

Connecting to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu (clouddata.scratch.mit.edu):443 … connected.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:09– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:09– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:09– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:10– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:10– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:10– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:10– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:11– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:11– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:11– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:11– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:12– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:12– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:12– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:12– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
–2023-10-10 13:41:12– https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/
Reuse the existing connection to clouddata.scratch.mit.edu:443.
HTTP request sent, waiting for response… 301 Moved Permanently
Place: https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/

Last edited by lZXTVhCSVlr (Oct. 10, 2023 11:55:31)

mas6y6
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I tryed to connect to https://clouddata.scratch.mit.edu/ but I get a redirect failure



Yes I tryed to reset my cookies

Hi i am mas6y6 i am the maker and owner for Scratch Cloud



Its a Scratch in Scratch Project

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