hellounicorns2 wrote:

Holly_The_Cat wrote:

Reserved for my Election related stuff

Ok!

python_megapixel wrote:

Information about the voting system
The voting system for elections has been changed. All shop owners should follow these steps:

1) Conduct a democratic internal vote. - it wrecks the system and is unfair if you only present some of the candidates, use bribery in any form, or give some workers more votes than others. Workers may of course choose not to vote, but that is at their discretion. You may also wish to combine this with an activity check.

2) Submit your results - list the usernames of the candidates in the order of preference. Do not alter the votes beforehand.
Eg.

Shop name: The Nonsense Shop
1) fdrgvdyh
2) gffghbbhh
…
12)hhhhh
13)bbgdrt

We will then calculate the final vote of each shop - for more info look back a few pages - and count votes once for every representative that you would have had under the old system.

Sound good. The voting thingy was talked about here, 20 pages back :o
Edit: updated and archived newsboard, updated members list, about to update rep counts.

GrahamSH wrote:

what about my system?

hellounicorns2 wrote:

GrahamSH wrote:

what about my system?

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Edit: oh hey 75th page

GrahamSH(20 pages ago) wrote:

I suggest something like in the USA with the “electoral college”
Basically, each shop, based on how many orders they have completed, have a certain number of votes, so the shops still vote as a whole, but different shops have more votes

GrahamSH(20 pages ago) wrote:

I suggest something like in the USA with the “electoral college”
Basically, each shop, based on how many orders they have completed, have a certain number of votes, so the shops still vote as a whole, but different shops have more votes

hellounicorns2 wrote:

GrahamSH(20 pages ago) wrote:

I suggest something like in the USA with the “electoral college”
Basically, each shop, based on how many orders they have completed, have a certain number of votes, so the shops still vote as a whole, but different shops have more votes

That’s exactly what we’re doing, except they have to choose preferences as shops.

Also, I am creating a voting thread. While we haven’t yet voted on section 11 creating a voting thread doesn’t really require a vote, however the section as a whole will later on.

GrahamSH wrote:

I got an idea! how about we vote like they do on the wiki with the elections!

hellounicorns2 wrote:

GrahamSH wrote:

I got an idea! how about we vote like they do on the wiki with the elections!

??? It’s a little late to change that now. Also, you should explain more in detail what you are proposing .

GrahamSH wrote:

i froget the name

hellounicorns2 wrote:

GrahamSH wrote:

i froget the name

Not necessarily the name, but the way it works and what parts of it we should use . As I said, it is probably a bit late to do so right now.

jokebookservice1 wrote:

@GrahamSH - I disagree with changing the amount of votes a shop gets based on its orders. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the electoral college rounds per territory (i.e. if a territory voted 25% for candidate A, and 75% for candidate B; that territory would get *all* of its electoral votes for candidate B)/ And I would hope that the electoral college here would be virtual; and not allowed to change their opinion, if we were to do this?

However! I like the idea of making votes count more based on how many people are in the shop. But if I'm not mistaken, we're still going to do that based on how many representatives the shop has (right?)

Finally, with our implementation, are we going to make shop internal votes also conform to AV, or can they pick which electoral system they wish to use?

GrahamSH wrote:

Not necessarily the name, but the way it works and what parts of it we should use . As I said, it is probably a bit late to do so right now.

hellounicorns2 wrote:

GrahamSH(20 pages ago) wrote:

I suggest something like in the USA with the “electoral college”
Basically, each shop, based on how many orders they have completed, have a certain number of votes, so the shops still vote as a whole, but different shops have more votes

That’s exactly what we’re doing, except they have to choose preferences as shops.

Also, I am creating a voting thread. While we haven’t yet voted on section 11 creating a voting thread doesn’t really require a vote, however the section as a whole will later on.

hellounicorns2 wrote:

jokebookservice1 wrote:

@GrahamSH - I disagree with changing the amount of votes a shop gets based on its orders. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the electoral college rounds per territory (i.e. if a territory voted 25% for candidate A, and 75% for candidate B; that territory would get *all* of its electoral votes for candidate B)/ And I would hope that the electoral college here would be virtual; and not allowed to change their opinion, if we were to do this?

However! I like the idea of making votes count more based on how many people are in the shop. But if I'm not mistaken, we're still going to do that based on how many representatives the shop has (right?)

Finally, with our implementation, are we going to make shop internal votes also conform to AV, or can they pick which electoral system they wish to use?

That is already the case. Changing that would require a vote. In my opinion, it is better as some shops (like one person shops) get lots of orders but little members (and are very experienced in the world of shops, which is the main point of this system).

Yes, and the reps are based of how many orders they have. However instead of voting as individual reps each shop is getting a vote for ever rep it would’ve had.

Nope, that is not a requirement. The only requirement is that it is ‘democratic’ which is interpreted by the judges.

GrahamSH wrote:

Not necessarily the name, but the way it works and what parts of it we should use . As I said, it is probably a bit late to do so right now.

like you pick your choice 1 choice 2 choice 3 etc and if there are 13 candidates then 1 gets 13 votes and 13 gets 1

GrahamSH wrote:

I STILL don't get alternate voting!!!

ncro2005 wrote:

Commence history lesson

Something I would like to mention is that, the USA had a problem in 1787 like this with our congress. There were two ways that were wanted to have our congress, and they were called the Virginia Plan and the New Jersey Plan. The Virginia Plan wanted votes based on a state's population, but the New Jersey Plan wanted equal representation for each state; then they all came up with the Connecticut Compromise which made two parts congress, the House of Representatives which had the proportional representation based on a states population, and the Senate which had equal representation.

EDIT: Ninja'd

GrahamSH wrote:

I STILL don't get alternate voting!!!

hellounicorns2 wrote:

GrahamSH wrote:

I STILL don't get alternate voting!!!

*sigh*

GrahamSH wrote:

I STILL don't get alternate voting!!!