Frozen VS. The Lego Movie: which movie is better?

luiysia

the lego movie.

obviously.

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NeilWest

Neither. Frozen is yet another generic, lifeless Disney princess film with pointless characters, horrible CGI (seriously, it looks 10 years older than it actually does) and loads of cliches. An act of true love isn't that far from true love's kiss. Elsa is a good character but in reality, none of Frozen's problems would've happened because normal people talk about their problems. Certainly not shut out their child for loads of years. The rock trolls are very, very unnecessary to the story, since they could have easily said the solution and been off before they got stale and boring. Anna is a generic Disney princess. She's energetic, full of dreams and is looking for a man. Eh. Kristoff is another shy, kind match for Anna. The other characters are so forgettable that I don't even know their names! And don't even get me started on OLAF. He was MADE for being slapped on a Subway meal and to attract the kiddies to watch this film.

The Lego Movie, in short, is a hypocritical, over-political kids film to gets kids to remember that LEGO is still a thing and that they can still buy it. Its also to remind adults that LEGO is still a thing and that… wait what? It has this whole over-bearing message that you shouldn't follow society's rules and do what you wish… with LEGO. It says not to do what the government tells you to do, yet forces you to buy LEGO mini-figures of Emmet and the crew. I guess making a film about toys is pretty hard not to sell out on. It's confused on who it's target audience is too, it has all these bright and colourful characters yet also all these jokey self-references to LEGO from the past. Maybe it's trying so hard to cater for everyone that you get served a mixed up meal. Strip away all the LEGO and you get an incredibly cheesy, bland plot that doesn't even have any branching plots. Nope. The whole Wildstyle backstory lasted 5 minutes during the build-up to the end, which was sort-of interesting but luckily it didn't distract too much from the main story. I would give it extra points for looking so real - but CGI.

Both are horrible and you should definitely watch something else. Like Monster's University!

mathman314

NeilWest wrote:
Neither. Frozen is yet another generic, lifeless Disney princess film with pointless characters, horrible CGI (seriously, it looks 10 years older than it actually does) and loads of cliches. An act of true love isn't that far from true love's kiss. Elsa is a good character but in reality, none of Frozen's problems would've happened because normal people talk about their problems. Certainly not shut out their child for loads of years. The rock trolls are very, very unnecessary to the story, since they could have easily said the solution and been off before they got stale and boring. Anna is a generic Disney princess. She's energetic, full of dreams and is looking for a man. Eh. Kristoff is another shy, kind match for Anna. The other characters are so forgettable that I don't even know their names! And don't even get me started on OLAF. He was MADE for being slapped on a Subway meal and to attract the kiddies to watch this film.

The Lego Movie, in short, is a hypocritical, over-political kids film to gets kids to remember that LEGO is still a thing and that they can still buy it. Its also to remind adults that LEGO is still a thing and that… wait what? It has this whole over-bearing message that you shouldn't follow society's rules and do what you wish… with LEGO. It says not to do what the government tells you to do, yet forces you to buy LEGO mini-figures of Emmet and the crew. I guess making a film about toys is pretty hard not to sell out on. It's confused on who it's target audience is too, it has all these bright and colourful characters yet also all these jokey self-references to LEGO from the past. Maybe it's trying so hard to cater for everyone that you get served a mixed up meal. Strip away all the LEGO and you get an incredibly cheesy, bland plot that doesn't even have any branching plots. Nope. The whole Wildstyle backstory lasted 5 minutes during the build-up to the end, which was sort-of interesting but luckily it didn't distract too much from the main story. I would give it extra points for looking so real - but CGI.

Both are horrible and you should definitely watch something else. Like Monster's University!

WOW. I'm not saying I totally disagree with you, but to me it loos like you just focused on what's bad about the movies and amplified them by ten, While not paying attention to the good stuff that most of society focused on. But, to be fair, there probably are some critics out there who are saying the same things.

'merica

lcftf

mathman314 wrote:
lcftf wrote:
Lego Movie.
Reason? Please make it as detailed as possible.

I love Legos, Frozen had too much singing, and Lego Movie was funnier.

Firedrake969

Quayl wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Quayl wrote:
I perfer Lego movie. Frozen has a nonsense story, with unloveable characters. Olaf is a riduculous snowman abomination, the reindeer is a reindeer, Anna is desperate for a boyfriend, and Elsa is just depressed. And Elsa cannot turn her kingdom into eternal winter, as that would require a shift in earths orbit around the sun.
Plastic humanoids cannot talk.
Not shifting the earths orbit and just causing cold is far from the word “winter”.

And yet you're accepting living plastic?

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Quayl

Firedrake969 wrote:
Quayl wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Quayl wrote:
I perfer Lego movie. Frozen has a nonsense story, with unloveable characters. Olaf is a riduculous snowman abomination, the reindeer is a reindeer, Anna is desperate for a boyfriend, and Elsa is just depressed. And Elsa cannot turn her kingdom into eternal winter, as that would require a shift in earths orbit around the sun.
Plastic humanoids cannot talk.
Not shifting the earths orbit and just causing cold is far from the word “winter”.
And yet you're accepting living plastic?

The Lego movie happens in the world of Lego, while frozen happens in a human world. If Elsa can change the orbit of a planet, then she is one of the most powerful fictional magicians.

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Firedrake969

Really, you can't judge a movie by how real it is unless it's actually trying to be realistic. I highly doubt either movie was trying to be realistic xD

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NeilWest wrote:
The Lego Movie, in short, is a hypocritical, over-political kids film to gets kids to remember that LEGO is still a thing and that they can still buy it. Its also to remind adults that LEGO is still a thing and that… wait what? It has this whole over-bearing message that you shouldn't follow society's rules and do what you wish… with LEGO. It says not to do what the government tells you to do, yet forces you to buy LEGO mini-figures of Emmet and the crew. I guess making a film about toys is pretty hard not to sell out on. It's confused on who it's target audience is too, it has all these bright and colourful characters yet also all these jokey self-references to LEGO from the past. Maybe it's trying so hard to cater for everyone that you get served a mixed up meal. Strip away all the LEGO and you get an incredibly cheesy, bland plot that doesn't even have any branching plots. Nope. The whole Wildstyle backstory lasted 5 minutes during the build-up to the end, which was sort-of interesting but luckily it didn't distract too much from the main story. I would give it extra points for looking so real - but CGI.

Because I'm a LEGO fan (I've spent like a thousand or more dollars on Legos in total) I feel obligated to disagree - but I really can't.

I agree it's hypocritical - it seems to be trying to make fun of the cheesy aspects of other movies, but ends up doing them itself. (There's a prophecy! Believe in yourself! Etc etc!)

**SPOILERS**
I also believe that a LEGO movie should focus on Legos - not two random characters whose names we don't even know - that part near the end ruined the whole movie.

It's just all an advertisement, at the most basic level.

Deerleg

Firedrake969 wrote:
Quayl wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Quayl wrote:
I perfer Lego movie. Frozen has a nonsense story, with unloveable characters. Olaf is a riduculous snowman abomination, the reindeer is a reindeer, Anna is desperate for a boyfriend, and Elsa is just depressed. And Elsa cannot turn her kingdom into eternal winter, as that would require a shift in earths orbit around the sun.
Plastic humanoids cannot talk.
Not shifting the earths orbit and just causing cold is far from the word “winter”.
And yet you're accepting living plastic?

What's the problem with living plastic? If millions of people around the world can love a computer-generated singer that only shows up on stage because of holographs or something, why should they not like living plastic?
(sorry about the offtopic thing; I was just trying to give an example. By the way, there's really a computer generated singer with millions of fans.)

Last edited by Deerleg (Aug. 5, 2014 16:00:31)

supercreeper2005

I prefer the lego movie because in Frozen, movie went by too fast. It was like elsa lived next to Anna. And the charcters weren't developed as well as the lego movie. And don't even mention Olaf. The whole movie I wanted him to melt. He was SO annoying. Then he was about to melt at the end, Elsa saved him. Now I hate Elsa just because of that!
Lego movie is better.

Last edited by supercreeper2005 (Aug. 5, 2014 16:49:51)

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NeilWest wrote:
Neither. Frozen is yet another generic, lifeless Disney princess film with pointless characters, horrible CGI (seriously, it looks 10 years older than it actually does) and loads of cliches. An act of true love isn't that far from true love's kiss. Elsa is a good character but in reality, none of Frozen's problems would've happened because normal people talk about their problems. Certainly not shut out their child for loads of years. The rock trolls are very, very unnecessary to the story, since they could have easily said the solution and been off before they got stale and boring. Anna is a generic Disney princess. She's energetic, full of dreams and is looking for a man. Eh. Kristoff is another shy, kind match for Anna. The other characters are so forgettable that I don't even know their names! And don't even get me started on OLAF. He was MADE for being slapped on a Subway meal and to attract the kiddies to watch this film.

The Lego Movie, in short, is a hypocritical, over-political kids film to gets kids to remember that LEGO is still a thing and that they can still buy it. Its also to remind adults that LEGO is still a thing and that… wait what? It has this whole over-bearing message that you shouldn't follow society's rules and do what you wish… with LEGO. It says not to do what the government tells you to do, yet forces you to buy LEGO mini-figures of Emmet and the crew. I guess making a film about toys is pretty hard not to sell out on. It's confused on who it's target audience is too, it has all these bright and colourful characters yet also all these jokey self-references to LEGO from the past. Maybe it's trying so hard to cater for everyone that you get served a mixed up meal. Strip away all the LEGO and you get an incredibly cheesy, bland plot that doesn't even have any branching plots. Nope. The whole Wildstyle backstory lasted 5 minutes during the build-up to the end, which was sort-of interesting but luckily it didn't distract too much from the main story. I would give it extra points for looking so real - but CGI.

Both are horrible and you should definitely watch something else. Like Monster's University!

Monster's u sucks!!! I hate it. It was SOOO boring.

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mathman314

Firedrake969 wrote:
Quayl wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Quayl wrote:
I perfer Lego movie. Frozen has a nonsense story, with unloveable characters. Olaf is a riduculous snowman abomination, the reindeer is a reindeer, Anna is desperate for a boyfriend, and Elsa is just depressed. And Elsa cannot turn her kingdom into eternal winter, as that would require a shift in earths orbit around the sun.
Plastic humanoids cannot talk.
Not shifting the earths orbit and just causing cold is far from the word “winter”.
And yet you're accepting living plastic?

It's not actually living plastic. (SPOILER ALERT) Whenever the plastic seemed like it was moving, it was actually just the kid controlling the legos, and what he was doing was just brought to life, similar to the beginning of Toy Story 3. The Micro Managers were what the kid's dad was doing. The legos weren't actually alive. And, even if they were, it's just fiction, not totally based on real life. This movie isn't just to promote legos. It has a story and well developed characters.

'merica

mathman314

Quayl wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Quayl wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Quayl wrote:
I perfer Lego movie. Frozen has a nonsense story, with unloveable characters. Olaf is a riduculous snowman abomination, the reindeer is a reindeer, Anna is desperate for a boyfriend, and Elsa is just depressed. And Elsa cannot turn her kingdom into eternal winter, as that would require a shift in earths orbit around the sun.
Plastic humanoids cannot talk.
Not shifting the earths orbit and just causing cold is far from the word “winter”.
And yet you're accepting living plastic?
The Lego movie happens in the world of Lego, while frozen happens in a human world. If Elsa can change the orbit of a planet, then she is one of the most powerful fictional magicians.

No one said she changed the earth's orbit. She just wasn't able to control her now extremely strong powers, and All the land around Arindell was really cold. Besides, it's just fiction. You shouldn't be trying to bring logic into it.

'merica

luiysia

NeilWest wrote:
Neither. Frozen is yet another generic, lifeless Disney princess film with pointless characters, horrible CGI (seriously, it looks 10 years older than it actually does) and loads of cliches. An act of true love isn't that far from true love's kiss. Elsa is a good character but in reality, none of Frozen's problems would've happened because normal people talk about their problems. Certainly not shut out their child for loads of years. The rock trolls are very, very unnecessary to the story, since they could have easily said the solution and been off before they got stale and boring. Anna is a generic Disney princess. She's energetic, full of dreams and is looking for a man. Eh. Kristoff is another shy, kind match for Anna. The other characters are so forgettable that I don't even know their names! And don't even get me started on OLAF. He was MADE for being slapped on a Subway meal and to attract the kiddies to watch this film.

The Lego Movie, in short, is a hypocritical, over-political kids film to gets kids to remember that LEGO is still a thing and that they can still buy it. Its also to remind adults that LEGO is still a thing and that… wait what? It has this whole over-bearing message that you shouldn't follow society's rules and do what you wish… with LEGO. It says not to do what the government tells you to do, yet forces you to buy LEGO mini-figures of Emmet and the crew. I guess making a film about toys is pretty hard not to sell out on. It's confused on who it's target audience is too, it has all these bright and colourful characters yet also all these jokey self-references to LEGO from the past. Maybe it's trying so hard to cater for everyone that you get served a mixed up meal. Strip away all the LEGO and you get an incredibly cheesy, bland plot that doesn't even have any branching plots. Nope. The whole Wildstyle backstory lasted 5 minutes during the build-up to the end, which was sort-of interesting but luckily it didn't distract too much from the main story. I would give it extra points for looking so real - but CGI.

Both are horrible and you should definitely watch something else. Like Monster's University!

It’s such a little thing to weep—
So short a thing to sigh—
And yet—by Trades—the size of these
We men and women die!

- Emily Dickinson

luiysia

Firedrake969 wrote:
Really, you can't judge a movie by how real it is unless it's actually trying to be realistic. I highly doubt either movie was trying to be realistic xD

^^ THIS

although a universe should stay consistent to its own rules and time, space, and human nature will always be the same (unless it's specifically stated that it isn't). like one inconsistency in frozen is that anna just knows that the winter elsa made was eternal, even though it had been a couple of days, max. but one thing that's not an inconsistency is that magic is not real, because in the universe of the movie, it is.

Last edited by luiysia (Aug. 5, 2014 17:51:42)

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So short a thing to sigh—
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We men and women die!

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robosnakejr

luiysia wrote:
NeilWest wrote:
Neither. Frozen is yet another generic, lifeless Disney princess film with pointless characters, horrible CGI (seriously, it looks 10 years older than it actually does) and loads of cliches. An act of true love isn't that far from true love's kiss. Elsa is a good character but in reality, none of Frozen's problems would've happened because normal people talk about their problems. Certainly not shut out their child for loads of years. The rock trolls are very, very unnecessary to the story, since they could have easily said the solution and been off before they got stale and boring. Anna is a generic Disney princess. She's energetic, full of dreams and is looking for a man. Eh. Kristoff is another shy, kind match for Anna. The other characters are so forgettable that I don't even know their names! And don't even get me started on OLAF. He was MADE for being slapped on a Subway meal and to attract the kiddies to watch this film.

The Lego Movie, in short, is a hypocritical, over-political kids film to gets kids to remember that LEGO is still a thing and that they can still buy it. Its also to remind adults that LEGO is still a thing and that… wait what? It has this whole over-bearing message that you shouldn't follow society's rules and do what you wish… with LEGO. It says not to do what the government tells you to do, yet forces you to buy LEGO mini-figures of Emmet and the crew. I guess making a film about toys is pretty hard not to sell out on. It's confused on who it's target audience is too, it has all these bright and colourful characters yet also all these jokey self-references to LEGO from the past. Maybe it's trying so hard to cater for everyone that you get served a mixed up meal. Strip away all the LEGO and you get an incredibly cheesy, bland plot that doesn't even have any branching plots. Nope. The whole Wildstyle backstory lasted 5 minutes during the build-up to the end, which was sort-of interesting but luckily it didn't distract too much from the main story. I would give it extra points for looking so real - but CGI.

Both are horrible and you should definitely watch something else. Like Monster's University!

;

Deerleg

NeilWest wrote:
Neither. Frozen is yet another generic, lifeless Disney princess film with pointless characters, horrible CGI (seriously, it looks 10 years older than it actually does) and loads of cliches. An act of true love isn't that far from true love's kiss. Elsa is a good character but in reality, none of Frozen's problems would've happened because normal people talk about their problems. Certainly not shut out their child for loads of years. The rock trolls are very, very unnecessary to the story, since they could have easily said the solution and been off before they got stale and boring. Anna is a generic Disney princess. She's energetic, full of dreams and is looking for a man. Eh. Kristoff is another shy, kind match for Anna. The other characters are so forgettable that I don't even know their names! And don't even get me started on OLAF. He was MADE for being slapped on a Subway meal and to attract the kiddies to watch this film.

The Lego Movie, in short, is a hypocritical, over-political kids film to gets kids to remember that LEGO is still a thing and that they can still buy it. Its also to remind adults that LEGO is still a thing and that… wait what? It has this whole over-bearing message that you shouldn't follow society's rules and do what you wish… with LEGO. It says not to do what the government tells you to do, yet forces you to buy LEGO mini-figures of Emmet and the crew. I guess making a film about toys is pretty hard not to sell out on. It's confused on who it's target audience is too, it has all these bright and colourful characters yet also all these jokey self-references to LEGO from the past. Maybe it's trying so hard to cater for everyone that you get served a mixed up meal. Strip away all the LEGO and you get an incredibly cheesy, bland plot that doesn't even have any branching plots. Nope. The whole Wildstyle backstory lasted 5 minutes during the build-up to the end, which was sort-of interesting but luckily it didn't distract too much from the main story. I would give it extra points for looking so real - but CGI.

Both are horrible and you should definitely watch something else. Like Monster's University!

I don't agree. The quality of the CGI is perfectly fine to my mind.
Besides that, this is making me wish the Warriors movie were out already…

Last edited by Deerleg (Aug. 5, 2014 20:34:21)

Firedrake969

Deerleg wrote:
NeilWest wrote:
Neither. Frozen is yet another generic, lifeless Disney princess film with pointless characters, horrible CGI (seriously, it looks 10 years older than it actually does) and loads of cliches. An act of true love isn't that far from true love's kiss. Elsa is a good character but in reality, none of Frozen's problems would've happened because normal people talk about their problems. Certainly not shut out their child for loads of years. The rock trolls are very, very unnecessary to the story, since they could have easily said the solution and been off before they got stale and boring. Anna is a generic Disney princess. She's energetic, full of dreams and is looking for a man. Eh. Kristoff is another shy, kind match for Anna. The other characters are so forgettable that I don't even know their names! And don't even get me started on OLAF. He was MADE for being slapped on a Subway meal and to attract the kiddies to watch this film.

The Lego Movie, in short, is a hypocritical, over-political kids film to gets kids to remember that LEGO is still a thing and that they can still buy it. Its also to remind adults that LEGO is still a thing and that… wait what? It has this whole over-bearing message that you shouldn't follow society's rules and do what you wish… with LEGO. It says not to do what the government tells you to do, yet forces you to buy LEGO mini-figures of Emmet and the crew. I guess making a film about toys is pretty hard not to sell out on. It's confused on who it's target audience is too, it has all these bright and colourful characters yet also all these jokey self-references to LEGO from the past. Maybe it's trying so hard to cater for everyone that you get served a mixed up meal. Strip away all the LEGO and you get an incredibly cheesy, bland plot that doesn't even have any branching plots. Nope. The whole Wildstyle backstory lasted 5 minutes during the build-up to the end, which was sort-of interesting but luckily it didn't distract too much from the main story. I would give it extra points for looking so real - but CGI.

Both are horrible and you should definitely watch something else. Like Monster's University!
I don't agree. The quality of the CGI is perfectly fine to my mind.
Besides that, this is making me wish the Warriors movie were out already…

Oh God…
I wonder how they're going to do all the battles and keep it PG?

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Deerleg

They won't.
PG-13. And CGI with realistic cats.
Anyway, Frozen is made for children with relatively low standards. People shouldn't criticize it too harshly.

Last edited by Deerleg (Aug. 5, 2014 21:05:16)

Dets65

mathman314 wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Quayl wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Quayl wrote:
I perfer Lego movie. Frozen has a nonsense story, with unloveable characters. Olaf is a riduculous snowman abomination, the reindeer is a reindeer, Anna is desperate for a boyfriend, and Elsa is just depressed. And Elsa cannot turn her kingdom into eternal winter, as that would require a shift in earths orbit around the sun.
Plastic humanoids cannot talk.
Not shifting the earths orbit and just causing cold is far from the word “winter”.
And yet you're accepting living plastic?
It's not actually living plastic. (SPOILER ALERT) Whenever the plastic seemed like it was moving, it was actually just the kid controlling the legos, and what he was doing was just brought to life, similar to the beginning of Toy Story 3. The Micro Managers were what the kid's dad was doing. The legos weren't actually alive. And, even if they were, it's just fiction, not totally based on real life. This movie isn't just to promote legos. It has a story and well developed characters.

DO NOT MENTION THE ENDING.

seriously do not it ruined the entire film for me

but that duplo gag was hilarious, it was so gaggy it made me barf rainbows

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