ebicanimations wrote:

This is sad

qrcool wrote:

leogames2016 wrote:

A bit sad… I think it should be temporarily because of mean people trying to swear in Chinese or something that they don't understand.

No, it's because the CCP saw some stuff they didn't like, including, but not limited to, Hong Kong and Taiwan being listed as countries. The ban might be permanent if Scratch doesn't clearly show communist views. That is, if you're talking about why China banned Scratch.

UnconstructivePoster wrote:

gummibear45 wrote:

But why exactly is Scratch banned?

Scratch contains some content that clashes with the Chinese Communist Party's wishes, such as projects/studios that support the Hong Kong protesters, tacit “recognition” (listing) of Hong Kong and Taiwan as separate countries, etc.

To quote this post:

DownsGameClub wrote:

SausageMcSauce wrote:

Byron_Inc wrote:

(…)
Well, it's because there's content that's about Free Hong Kong and No Chinese content on Scratch. I'm an active user in the Chinese sub-forum, so I know about this. I even saw the video that triggered all this mess.

Just a question, what did the video contain (unless it mostly contains content not allowed on Scratch)?

I skimmed the Chinese forums, and it appears to be this video that was uploaded over on BiliBili (a Chinese version of YouTube). For context, this comes from a source named 「四度视频」, lit. Four Degrees Video, which appears to be a short-video type news source.

The translated description (via Google Translate) of the video is as follows:

Four Degrees wrote:

Recently, Four Degrees Video received reports from parents that the official website of the scratch platform, a children’s programming tool commonly used in children’s programming education in China, contains a lot of content that insults China, spreads rumors, and discredited China, and the platform is even included in some provinces and cities as an open source platform. Promoted in the primary school information technology textbook. As an open source platform, does the developer’s ideology affect platform users? Is it possible to penetrate further? Children's programming is an outlet, but it cannot be a “monster”. The localization of the underlying architecture and application platform of programming education should be put on the agenda as soon as possible.

Essentially, the video is about how the Scratch Website supposedly promoted things that tended against China's current polices, especially the “One China Principle,” in which the only “China” that exists is the Mainland and it governs its territories (i.e. Hong-Kong, Taiwan, and Macau). The video describes different complaints about the different ways this policy has been breached by Scratch, particularly:

• Taiwan and Hong Kong are listed as separate regions from China (a big no-no when dealing with anything China these days…)
  
• Projects and Studio promoting the current Hong Kong's movement (“Five Demands, Not One Less”)
  
• Projects failing to put Taiwan on a map of China, especially on a “Learn Chinese” project (this part confuses me the most - they should have done more research in understanding the project wasn't directed at defaming China in any sense)
  
• Projects putting the blame on China's government for various things, such as the US-China Trade War (was mentioned in the video, but this is outside the One China Policy stuffs)

Honestly, I'm very surprised they decided to follow through on the decision to ban Scratch. But I guess they thought the free speech that was allowed on the website went a bit too far…

(Edit: Thanks @Broyn_Inc for the spelling correction)

PrincessPandaLover wrote:

cyx2015s wrote:

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

Saying Hong Kong is an independent country is only offending the ccp, im pretty sure the citizens dont care.

WE CARE! WHERE DID YOU FOUND EVIDENCE THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT IT?

Hong Kong isn't actually an independent country, it's a region of a country under a separate government (like Puerto Rico to the United States).

Byron_Inc wrote:

cyx2015s wrote:

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

Saying Hong Kong is an independent country is only offending the ccp, im pretty sure the citizens dont care.

WE CARE! WHERE DID YOU FOUND EVIDENCE THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT IT?

Please don't shout. It's rude. They didn't say they're 100% sure, just pretty sure.

jiuxiongdi wrote:

-snip- But I don't know why scratch team isn't even saying anything about it.

nirvap wrote:

0014049 is from China but he is not banned…

mtech22 wrote:

jiuxiongdi wrote:

-snip- But I don't know why scratch team isn't even saying anything about it.

I beleive they are evaluating the situation to get more of an understanding and will inform us when they can, and have enough information on the subject.

DownsGameClub wrote:

On a personal note, I will refuse to support a website that suddenly decides to agree with the policy that a land that has been operating completely independent from the PRC for over half a century is still considered part of China.

Blueava26 wrote:

I feel so bad for the scratchers from China for your question I don't know what will happen but hopefully, China will fix this.

jiuxiongdi wrote:

Blueava26 wrote:

I feel so bad for the scratchers from China for your question I don't know what will happen but hopefully, China will fix this.

The scratch team needs to remove Taiwan, Macau, and Hong Kong as countries or change the countries into locations. Otherwise, the chances of scratch being allowed is slim

KyloRenblaster wrote:

Oh No

nirvap wrote:

0014049 is from China but he is not banned…

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

nirvap wrote:

0014049 is from China but he is not banned…

Technically, he is from Hong Kong.

DancingNekoGirl wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

nirvap wrote:

0014049 is from China but he is not banned…

Technically, he is from Hong Kong.

Isn't it in China?

DancingNekoGirl wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

nirvap wrote:

0014049 is from China but he is not banned…

Technically, he is from Hong Kong.

Isn't it in China?

Truck11111 wrote:

DancingNekoGirl wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

nirvap wrote:

0014049 is from China but he is not banned…

Technically, he is from Hong Kong.

Isn't it in China?

it is but it is also autonomous