Scratch and China (Discussion on Recent Website Block)

Poppy_Tacos

-Zyte- wrote:
Poppy_Tacos wrote:
mtech22 wrote:
Poppy_Tacos wrote:
Wat???????
Scratch is being blocked in China.
No
No what?

Wdym

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-Zyte-

Poppy_Tacos wrote:
-Zyte- wrote:
Poppy_Tacos wrote:
mtech22 wrote:
Poppy_Tacos wrote:
Wat???????
Scratch is being blocked in China.
No
No what?
Wdym

What do you mean?

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Smarty8347

Wait…How is Zyte here? I'm confused.
Not to be rude.

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64lu

Smarty8347 wrote:
Wait…How is Zyte here? I'm confused.
Not to be rude.

I seem to remember them saying they use: “A VPN but better and more techy”

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https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/277957993/
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Smarty8347

64lu wrote:
Smarty8347 wrote:
Wait…How is Zyte here? I'm confused.
Not to be rude.
I seem to remember them saying they use: “A VPN but better and more techy”

Ok… I'm going to question, is that allowed? To use it, and get access to outside internet.
(It probably is, but I have no clue.)

Last edited by Smarty8347 (Aug. 17, 2020 03:21:39)

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64lu

Smarty8347 wrote:
64lu wrote:
Smarty8347 wrote:
Wait…How is Zyte here? I'm confused.
Not to be rude.
I seem to remember them saying they use: “A VPN but better and more techy”
Ok… I'm going to question, is that allowed? To use it, and get access to outside internet.
(It probably is, but I have no clue.)

it's fine

https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/youtube/bkt7j-055HE/
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/277957993/
solitare

Smarty8347

64lu wrote:
Smarty8347 wrote:
64lu wrote:
Smarty8347 wrote:
Wait…How is Zyte here? I'm confused.
Not to be rude.
I seem to remember them saying they use: “A VPN but better and more techy”
Ok… I'm going to question, is that allowed? To use it, and get access to outside internet.
(It probably is, but I have no clue.)
it's fine

Cool!

Be moist

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Scrolling Platformer
A Scrolling World
A Recreation of Fruit Ninja

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Poppy_Tacos

-Zyte- wrote:
Poppy_Tacos wrote:
-Zyte- wrote:
Poppy_Tacos wrote:
mtech22 wrote:
Poppy_Tacos wrote:
Wat???????
Scratch is being blocked in China.
No
No what?
Wdym
What do you mean?

I mean no

Call me Poppy! Help me get to 1k pls!

Byron_Inc

Poppy_Tacos wrote:
I mean no

It might not be blocked in your region, but it is in China. Or you might be turning on your VPN by default.

Planning on coming back soon.

cyx2015s

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:
Saying Hong Kong is an independent country is only offending the ccp, im pretty sure the citizens dont care.

WE CARE! WHERE DID YOU FOUND EVIDENCE THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT IT?

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Byron_Inc

cyx2015s wrote:
ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:
Saying Hong Kong is an independent country is only offending the ccp, im pretty sure the citizens dont care.

WE CARE! WHERE DID YOU FOUND EVIDENCE THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT IT?

Please don't shout. It's rude. They didn't say they're 100% sure, just pretty sure.

Planning on coming back soon.

ScratchCatHELLO

LankyBox01 wrote:
Oh gosh.
So… all the accounts from china (20K) will be inactive.
But the good news is: The Chinese people are allowed to use VPNs

Actually, isn't it 3M+? Or is 20K the number of active accounts?

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apple502j wrote:
Seems like it's not that simple. They also need to remove any content against China.

Yeah. According to this post, the following things are why it may have been banned:

四度视频, posted by DownsGameClub wrote:
- Taiwan and Hong Kong are listed as separate regions from China (a big no-no when dealing with anything China these days…)
- Projects and Studio promoting the current Hong Kong's movement (“Five Demands, Not One Less”)
- Projects failing to put Taiwan on a map of China, especially on a “Learn Chinese” project (this part confuses me the most - they should have done more research in understanding the project wasn't directed at defaming China in any sense)
- Projects putting the blame on China's government for various things, such as the US-China Trade War (was mentioned in the video, but this is outside the One China Policy stuffs)

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Flowermanvista

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:
LankyBox01 wrote:
Oh gosh.
So… all the accounts from china (20K) will be inactive.
But the good news is: The Chinese people are allowed to use VPNs

Actually, isn't it 3M+? Or is 20K the number of active accounts?

“3M” is a figure taken from the Stats page, which was derived by just hovering over China on the “Scratchers Worldwide” section - of course, this only shows all accounts ever registered with the location set to China, not all active Scratchers there.

The “20k” figure is an estimate of active Chinese Scratchers produced by taking the percentage of Chinese Scratchers (5.72%) and combining it with the “Monthly Active Users” stat. In my case, I took that percentage and combined it with the yearly peak of the Project Creators stat - 5.72% of 606,557 gives an estimated 34,695 active Chinese Scratchers - of course, this number would fluctuate along with Scratch's (surprisingly regular) yearly popularity cycles.

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ScratchCatHELLO wrote:
apple502j wrote:
Seems like it's not that simple. They also need to remove any content against China.

Yeah. According to this post, the following things are why it may have been banned:

四度视频, posted by DownsGameClub wrote:
- Taiwan and Hong Kong are listed as separate regions from China (a big no-no when dealing with anything China these days…)
- Projects and Studio promoting the current Hong Kong's movement (“Five Demands, Not One Less”)
- Projects failing to put Taiwan on a map of China, especially on a “Learn Chinese” project (this part confuses me the most - they should have done more research in understanding the project wasn't directed at defaming China in any sense)
- Projects putting the blame on China's government for various things, such as the US-China Trade War (was mentioned in the video, but this is outside the One China Policy stuffs)

Yeah, I can see why that might offend China.

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Flowermanvista wrote:
ScratchCatHELLO wrote:
LankyBox01 wrote:
Oh gosh.
So… all the accounts from china (20K) will be inactive.
But the good news is: The Chinese people are allowed to use VPNs

Actually, isn't it 3M+? Or is 20K the number of active accounts?
“3M” is a figure taken from the Stats page, which was derived by just hovering over China on the “Scratchers Worldwide” section - of course, this only shows all accounts ever registered with the location set to China, not all active Scratchers there.

The “20k” figure is an estimate of active Chinese Scratchers produced by taking the percentage of Chinese Scratchers (5.72%) and combining it with the “Monthly Active Users” stat. In my case, I took that percentage and combined it with the yearly peak of the Project Creators stat - 5.72% of 606,557 gives an estimated 34,695 active Chinese Scratchers - of course, this number would fluctuate along with Scratch's (surprisingly regular) yearly popularity cycles.

Ah. That's what I thought. Thanks!

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Yeetoburro1

-Zyte- wrote:
Poppy_Tacos wrote:
-Zyte- wrote:
Poppy_Tacos wrote:
mtech22 wrote:
Poppy_Tacos wrote:
Wat???????
Scratch is being blocked in China.
No
No what?
Wdym
What do you mean?

I think they think that scratch is just plain old being blocked. However, it's only being blocked in china. They live in australia so there is some confusion.

ScratchCatHELLO

this is probably a dumb question but does this affect the lifelong kindergarten page?

edit: 19th page!!!

edit 2: I can't check just the lifelong kindergarten page, but media.mit.edu overall isn't blocked.

edit 3: Wiki doesn't seem to be blocked either, becuase it isn't on the same domain as the rest of scratch. The forums probably are though.

Last edited by ScratchCatHELLO (Aug. 17, 2020 16:30:33)

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ScratchCatHELLO

Checked this on four sites that check whether china is blocking any given website. All four returned positive.

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PrincessPandaLover

cyx2015s wrote:
ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:
Saying Hong Kong is an independent country is only offending the ccp, im pretty sure the citizens dont care.

WE CARE! WHERE DID YOU FOUND EVIDENCE THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT IT?

Hong Kong isn't actually an independent country, it's a region of a country under a separate government (like Puerto Rico to the United States).

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