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Za-Chary
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Gifted_Mess wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Gifted_Mess wrote:

Yeah, doesn't look like you missed anything but maybe change the formatting of the proof
Anything in particular you would suggest?
Maybe do like a quote then the proof, it is just more understandable in my mind for like the first one do this :
wait *looks*.,…..

Yeah you have the quote one just maybe find some for all of them
Thanks for the suggestion — if I find anything good, I'll add it in, but we'd also like to avoid having the forum post get too long.
FireyDeath4
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

#43:

Why don't you just set your own clone limits???
SimpleScratch
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

@Za-Chary
23: “When stop sign clicked” hat block
Some users want a block that looks like this, allowing users to click the stop sign to run a script:

when
stop
sign
clicked

However, the stop sign is designed to stop all the scripts in the project. With this block in place, more scripts will start when you want the project to stop, thus defeating the purpose of the stop sign. This could also be rather confusing for the “stop all” block. Regardless, there is a workaround that uses the “when (timer) > (number)” hat block.

What is this timer > number workaround?
Za-Chary
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

FireyDeath4 wrote:

#43:

Why don't you just set your own clone limits???
Um…because then you could set your limit to 17,000,000,000 and someone's device might not be able to run a project with that many clones. That's basically removing the clone limit by that point. The Scratch Team wants as many devices to run as many projects as possible.

SimpleScratch wrote:

What is this timer > number workaround?
This only works if you don't need the timer for anything else in your project. Basically you use these two scripts:

when green flag clicked
forever
reset timer
end

when [timer v] > (0.3)
do stuff

@Dhilly uses this in a lot of his projects. The bottom script will never run once the green flag is clicked, because the timer will always be reset. However, when you click the stop sign, the timer keeps going. That way you can effectively have something happen when the stop sign is clicked. Does that make sense?
NilsTheBest
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Za-Chary wrote:

TABLE OF CONTENTS
This is a concise list of all the rejected suggestions, sorted into categories.

SCRATCH EDITOR

SCRATCH BLOCKS
  • “Broadcast received” boolean block
  • “When stop sign clicked” hat block
  • 3D Scratch
  • Digital currency or money blocks
CODING INTERFACE
  • Text-based coding in Scratch
  • Adding users to work on projects
  • Set the editor to look like older versions of Scratch
  • Revert back to older versions of Scratch
RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITS
  • Remove the 50 MB project size limit
  • Increase the 300 clone limit
PROJECTS AND STUDIOS

PROJECT PAGES
  • Disable “See Inside” or restrict sharing
  • Dislike button or a project rating system
  • Delete or edit your comments on other users' projects
  • Remove character limits on comments
  • Notifications for viewing projects
STUDIO PAGES
  • Remove studio activity messages
  • Add an “invite all” button for studios
  • Remove “add everything” or “invite everyone” studios
PROFILE PAGE

ACCOUNT STATUS
  • Add a rank above Scratcher or remove the New Scratcher status
  • Show when users are online
  • Show when users are banned
  • Delete inactive accounts
OTHER INFORMATION
  • Changing username
  • Blocking users
  • Remove the location feature
  • Game badges or achievements
DISCUSSION FORUMS

CATEGORIES AND ACCESS
  • Bring back the “Discuss” tab
  • Off-topic or miscellaneous section on the forums
  • Remove the Suggestions forum
RESTRICTIONS AND MODERATION
  • Remove the 60 Second Rule
  • Remove restricted image hosts or add your own websites
  • Show exact post count of other users
  • Moderate mini-mods
MODERATOR ACTIONS

SCRATCH PROJECTS
  • Blacklisted chat projects with cloud variables
  • Ban minor remixes
  • Ban projects with no coding
  • Remove restrictions on Five Nights at Freddy's projects
  • Ban a certain franchise
  • Ban voice acting
SCRATCH COMMUNITY
  • Private messaging
  • Ban “follow for follow” (f4f)
  • Remove the phone number censor
  • Scratch Team members should not post political views
  • A 13+ version of the Scratch website
Sorry for not snipping here, but what post I could be snipping is quite vague..
I saw your comment, and yes I do think that this is much more organized! You should put this system instead, but also keep the numbers so that we can easily find the rejected suggestion that corresponds to a given number..

Last edited by NilsTheBest (March 18, 2019 20:08:41)

Flipped_
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

I saw a user saying that Paddle2See rejected a suggestion for a 16:9 aspect ratio. I'm not exactly sure how new Rejected Suggestions are added to the list, but maybe you could look into it and add 16:9 aspect ratio to the list? I can't find the topic anywhere.
Za-Chary
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

NilsTheBest wrote:

Sorry for not snipping here, but what post I could be snipping is quite vague..
I saw your comment, and yes I do think that this is much more organized! You should put this system instead, but also keep the numbers so that we can easily find the rejected suggestion that corresponds to a given number..
Thanks! Yes, I had thought about keeping the numbers. I will keep numbers, but I don't think they'll be in the same order numerically as they are now.

Flipped_ wrote:

I saw a user saying that Paddle2See rejected a suggestion for a 16:9 aspect ratio. I'm not exactly sure how new Rejected Suggestions are added to the list, but maybe you could look into it and add 16:9 aspect ratio to the list? I can't find the topic anywhere.
It would be nice if we could find the post that says it was rejected. That way I can look more into it.
StrangeMagic32
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Flipped_ wrote:

I saw a user saying that Paddle2See rejected a suggestion for a 16:9 aspect ratio. I'm not exactly sure how new Rejected Suggestions are added to the list, but maybe you could look into it and add 16:9 aspect ratio to the list? I can't find the topic anywhere.
They said it, but didn't quite provide sufficient proof, I don't think it is rejected (yet).

Za-Chary wrote:

It would be nice if we could find the post that says it was rejected. That way I can look more into it.
They said it was rejected here… https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3475909/
But not much proof, other than word of mouth.

Also here is a little of what Paddle2See has said about it.
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3475949/

Paddle2See wrote:

So far as I know, this suggestion hasn't been formally rejected.

Last edited by StrangeMagic32 (March 18, 2019 21:01:25)

Za-Chary
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

StrangeMagic32 wrote:

Also here is a little of what Paddle2See has said about it.
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3475949/

Paddle2See wrote:

So far as I know, this suggestion hasn't been formally rejected.
Yep, you are right. Looks like this is NOT rejected.
Flipped_
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Za-Chary wrote:

Yep, you are right. Looks like this is NOT rejected.

Oh, okay.
Za-Chary
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Added a short explanation under Private Messaging (#2) explaining why links to private messaging websites like Discord are not allowed. The inspiration came from this clearly rejected suggestion:

https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/344578/
EIephant_Lover
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Za-Chary wrote:

44: Text-based coding in Scratch
Some users wish to code Scratch not with the blocks, but with typing code instead (similar to how more advanced programming languages work). However, the Scratch Team has discussed this possibility multiple times and has decided every time that it would not be beneficial for beginners or for teachers.

One amazing thing about block-based programming is that syntax errors largely do not exist, but text-based programming would indeed introduce syntax errors which younger users might not understand.

This suggestion extends to coding Scratch in any text, including BBCode, Javascript, some form of pseudocode, or some other programming language. If you wish to code using Javascript, for instance, then you can learn Javascript on your own; but it would have to be done outside of Scratch.
For this one, you should quote Paddle here: https://scratch.mit.edu/users/MaximunPokeMaster/#comments-55378478
Za-Chary
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EIephant_Lover wrote:

For this one, you should quote Paddle here: https://scratch.mit.edu/users/MaximunPokeMaster/#comments-55378478
Have I not already made that quote clear in what I have written?

Za-Chary wrote:

However, the Scratch Team has discussed this possibility multiple times and has decided every time that it would not be beneficial for beginners or for teachers.
NilsTheBest
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Flipped_ wrote:

I saw a user saying that Paddle2See rejected a suggestion for a 16:9 aspect ratio. I'm not exactly sure how new Rejected Suggestions are added to the list, but maybe you could look into it and add 16:9 aspect ratio to the list? I can't find the topic anywhere.
Ah, I remember this topic! I believe it's this. Wait, I remember topics from october? :O
Nevermind, just saw that it isn't technically rejected.

Last edited by NilsTheBest (March 19, 2019 21:59:44)

998930
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Za-Chary wrote:

Gifted_Mess wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Gifted_Mess wrote:

Yeah, doesn't look like you missed anything but maybe change the formatting of the proof
Anything in particular you would suggest?
Maybe do like a quote then the proof, it is just more understandable in my mind for like the first one do this :
wait *looks*.,…..

Yeah you have the quote one just maybe find some for all of them
Thanks for the suggestion — if I find anything good, I'll add it in, but we'd also like to avoid having the forum post get too long.
Yeah…
Enderboygamer
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

why would you not allow repeat until broadcast?

Last edited by Enderboygamer (March 20, 2019 22:00:22)

Za-Chary
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Enderboygamer wrote:

why would you not allow repeat until broadcast?
Read the post a little more carefully. This block is rejected:

<[message v] received? :: events>

These blocks are NOT rejected:

repeat until [message v] received {} :: events

wait until [message v] received :: events
sti_scratch
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For the FNaF thing, you can put this above everything else:
The restriction is not for all FNaF projects. If you have a Five Nights at Freddy's project without any inappropriate/gory/scary-for-an-AVERAGE-eight-year-old content, then it won't be taken down/NFE'd. It's only that many Five Nights at Freddy's projects have gory content that isn't what Scratch wants.

Last edited by sti_scratch (March 24, 2019 05:33:14)

Za-Chary
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sti_scratch wrote:

For the FNaF thing, you can put this above everything else:
The restriction is not for all FNaF projects. If you have a Five Nights at Freddy's project without any inappropriate/gory/scary-for-an-AVERAGE-eight-year-old content, then it won't be taken down/NFE'd. It's only that many Five Nights at Freddy's projects have gory content that isn't what Scratch wants.
Thanks for the idea, but I believe I've already covered this in my description of the suggestion:

Za-Chary wrote:

However, you are free to use Five Nights at Freddy's characters in your project as long as the project follows the Community Guidelines (one example is a Five Nights at Freddy's dress-up game). Be sure to report any project that does not follow the Community Guidelines, especially if it contains jumpscares or scary images.
openPoll
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My topic got rejected.

Paddle2See wrote:

Interesting idea! But we don't see it as being useful enough to the few advanced Scratchers that would find it handy to earn a place in the Scratch block vocabulary. One of the main goals of Scratch it to keep it easy to learn - and that means keeping the number of blocks as small possible. Also, it seems like there are work-arounds that aren't all that onerous. Thanks for the suggestion though.
quote
I will link it down soon as I need to Eat

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