MathlyCat wrote:

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jji10 wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

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I hate to mini-mod in a anti mini-mod suggestion, but your image breaks the no-names rule.

jji10 wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

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I hate to mini-mod in a anti mini-mod suggestion, but your image breaks the no-names rule.

Sigton wrote:

jji10 wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

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I hate to mini-mod in a anti mini-mod suggestion, but your image breaks the no-names rule.

lol those posts were jokes.

Sigton

nickeljorn wrote:

0% support. What you call “mini mods” are, in my perspective, “helpers.” They're preparing for a possible future job, helping the Scratch Team, and showing the right thing to do.

WaffleChurro wrote:

nickeljorn wrote:

0% support. What you call “mini mods” are, in my perspective, “helpers.” They're preparing for a possible future job, helping the Scratch Team, and showing the right thing to do.

They most likely will never get a job if they spend their life on Scratch

MathlyCat wrote:

forum arrogance mini-modding

Sigton wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

forum arrogance mini-modding

subtle

Sigton

MathlyCat wrote:

Sigton wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

forum arrogance mini-modding

subtle

Sigton

U r not constructive
Plz chang or else report

MathlyCat wrote:

jji10 wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

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I hate to mini-mod in a anti mini-mod suggestion, but your image breaks the no-names rule.

How?

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Edit: Let's make this extremely clear: I'm not asking to remove reporting. Reporting is important and it would still exist

I'll leave it to others to define the term


We see this a lot on Scratch.
I'll list some typical examples here. Note however that usually mini-mod posts are a bit less concise; I've made my examples short because imitating large mini-mod paragraphs is difficult.

Mini-mod wrote:

OP wrote:

<some post in the wrong forum section>

Hey OP, it looks like this post is in the wrong forum section! I've reported it to be moved to <xyz> for you.

It's OK to ask the ST to move a topic to what you think is the appropriate section, but there's no reason to post about it. This is almost spam.

Mini-mod wrote:

OP wrote:

<some inappropriate thing or blockspam>

Your post appears to break the CG and I've reported it for <bad content>.

There's absolutely no reason to ever post something like this. It's not helpful to tell someone you've reported their post. Leave moderation to the ST.

Mini-mod wrote:

OP wrote:

<some rejected suggestion>

Hello, it looks like you've made a rejected suggestion. Remember to read the stickies!

quote of sticky

I think you get the idea.

Nobody appreciates when mini-mods appear and pretend to be the ST. And nobody appreciates the clear negativity from every other Scratch forum post being criticized by mini-mods for some reason or another. Mini-mods probably are trying to be helpful, but the most helpful thing to do is to stop mini-modding and leave it to the experts (by experts I mean the ST, in case you haven't guessed yet). It's only a matter of time before some mini-mod will make a bad judgement and incorrectly reprimand a poster, resulting in hurt feelings.

What people should do is report posts. Reporting is a very effective way to bring moderator attention to a problem. Nothing besides a report (or perhaps a Contact Us message) is necessary.

TDLR mini-modding needs to be stopped and the ST needs to take a harder stance against it.

Edit 2:

stickfiregames wrote:

I think the rules should be up to the ST.
IMO the worse type of minimodding is when people push things as if they were rules when actually they're just community conventions

Sigton wrote:

They are pretty annoying. Tbh I could probably deal with it as long as they were generally nicer about correcting everyone…

Sigton

Sigton wrote:

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

If you put a restriction on mini mods, trust me, the spam rate would just go through the roof.

So because they respond to the spam, there's less of it?
They're not doing anything to prevent it in the first place.

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

I personally don't view them as “mini-mods” more of “forum helpers” (no I'm not referring to the group either).

Doesn't matter what you call them they're still the same thing.

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

IMO they're an essential part to the forums.

Because they tell everyone off themselves instead of doing it the proper way and just reporting it? Allowing the ST to deal with the situation is much more effective.

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

They're pretty much the people that “whip the forum into shape”

I'd take an alert to heart much more than a scratcher ranting to me about spam tbh…

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

As per above I'm pretty sure the mini mods help the ST quite a lot. Being that there are only two active forums mods that I know of.

Do you know what helps the ST? Reporting. Do you know what makes no difference to the ST? Telling people that you've reported them.
Honestly, these mini mods do nothing but spread all of the spam etc, because when they post on the topics they bump them up to the top of the forum. If you find it, just report it and the ST will deal with it no differently than if you told that person off. I think that the ST would appreciate it if people just reported posts rather than getting at the offenders.

Sigton

1. Posts on a topic are closed to the user who reports the original post, and
   
2. The “quote” button would either be greyed out or be hidden for a user who has reported that post
   

Digital_Gaming wrote:

Sigton wrote:

They are pretty annoying. Tbh I could probably deal with it as long as they were generally nicer about correcting everyone…

Sigton

uh..sigton
no offence

Seventh Suggestion:

People who only warn Scratchers on the forums for doing something against these suggestions. I'd like to say something:

That's utterly counter intuitive.

The point of this sticky is to give you suggestions on what to and not to do. Simply warning someone is not adding to discussion, which is one of the main points here. Please, if you find someone doing:

1. Breaking a Guideline

Don't respond, just report it and move on.

2. Rejected Suggestion

Just make a long enough post explaining kindly that it's rejected and linking the sticky

3. Someone who isn't using one of these Suggestions

Inform them of this sticky, and after being constructive and ‘warning’ them, add to discussion

dave4681 wrote:

Digital_Gaming wrote:

Sigton wrote:

They are pretty annoying. Tbh I could probably deal with it as long as they were generally nicer about correcting everyone…

Sigton

uh..sigton
no offence

I'm guessing why this was added:

Seventh Suggestion:

People who only warn Scratchers on the forums for doing something against these suggestions. I'd like to say something:

That's utterly counter intuitive.

The point of this sticky is to give you suggestions on what to and not to do. Simply warning someone is not adding to discussion, which is one of the main points here. Please, if you find someone doing:

1. Breaking a Guideline

Don't respond, just report it and move on.

2. Rejected Suggestion

Just make a long enough post explaining kindly that it's rejected and linking the sticky

3. Someone who isn't using one of these Suggestions

Inform them of this sticky, and after being constructive and ‘warning’ them, add to discussion

That sticky is full of recommendations ,not something encouraging people to savagely demand anyone who doesn't follow.

But all your other points are great, though.

KingOfAwesome58219 wrote:

Sigton wrote:

jji10 wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

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I hate to mini-mod in a anti mini-mod suggestion, but your image breaks the no-names rule.

lol those posts were jokes.

Sigton

Even if they weren't jokes, they didn't break the rules. You can mention names on the forums lol.

iamunknown2 wrote:

Won't moderating mini-mods create even more work for the ST anyway?

Sigton wrote:

iamunknown2 wrote:

Won't moderating mini-mods create even more work for the ST anyway?

Not if they stop by themselves.

Sigton