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EDawg2011
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happy_7832 wrote:

just wanted to know but… whats cloud data?
There's an option to make cloud variables that save to the servers in a project.
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YAY CLOUD DATA HISTORY IS BACK!!!!

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FireflyFi
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Cloud history still isn't functioning when the project is reloaded. Don't know what's going on, but it's been going on for a rather long time and left many projects broken. Cloud history IS loading again, however, unlike before; it's just not saving properly.
Boss_1s
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I'm not sure if the delay rule is still there…

As someone mentioned before 30-50 pages back, there was a delay between the change of the variable and the cloud log showing it.

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kyrasingh2
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one time i saw that scratch cloud data was not okay
Boss_1s
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kyrasingh2 wrote:

one time i saw that scratch cloud data was not okay
And what was not ok?

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(() and ()::operators) //same as the boolean, but for reporting
<my boolean ::variables> //only stores true or false
show all variables::variables
hide all variable::variables
show all lists::list
hide all lists::list
…and more!

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Hi, my name is @Boss_1s!
I'm 12 years old, and I joined Scratch to relearn block coding.
Other projects:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/869604293/ - cool MMO platformer
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/792424859/ - This is my first ORIGINAL game.
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/914686250/ - NEW! Remixed an RPG from Griffpatch, though it's pretty boring right now…
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/895107188/ - NEW! Safe chat with anyone on Scratch, whitelist is present
Secret Special Advanced Project (SSAdP): COMPLETED!!! https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/946720515/

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Crosbyman64
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Cloud variables don't seem to automatically save when set anymore (which may or may not be due to a storage warn depreciation Storage.addWebSource -> addWebStore), unless the project is saved afterwards, which only the owner can do

Last edited by Crosbyman64 (Jan. 27, 2024 06:36:27)

Crosbyman64
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FireflyFi wrote:

Cloud history still isn't functioning when the project is reloaded. Don't know what's going on, but it's been going on for a rather long time and left many projects broken. Cloud history IS loading again, however, unlike before; it's just not saving properly.

Yeah, I noticed it too. And I think I know why it's occurring (see above post)
ThemeAndReality
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Yes, I'm also seeing the problem where newly created cloud variables ‘lose’ their updated values on a project reload. I first noticed on the 19th Jan, and it's still happening today. Every new cloud variable is affected.

Unfortunately, this seems to be a re-occurring problem.

But ironically, this means there is a known workaround to fix them: rename them

(you can rename them back after, and it seems fine)

Last edited by ThemeAndReality (Jan. 30, 2024 03:07:39)


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Fluffygamer_
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ThemeAndReality wrote:

(#1751)
Yes, I'm also seeing the problem where newly created cloud variables ‘lose’ their updated values on a project reload. I first noticed on the 19th Jan, and it's still happening today. Every new cloud variable is affected.

Unfortunately, this seems to be a re-occurring problem.

But ironically, this means there is a known workaround to fix them: rename them

(you can rename them back after, and it seems fine)
Also have that. The cloud history is working but the variables don't update. I passed 8 hours to make a leaderboard that will probably not be working for months because of that. Really annoyed.

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dave3m
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I can add myself to the users confirming that new cloud variables are now exhibiting the problem noted above – as has happened before, they update in the history log but do not appear to load their current values when restarting the project. In the past, this sometimes occurred with a variable delay up to a few minutes.


I created a New Cloud Click Test Project, similar to my previous one and it exhibits this problem. As stated above, renaming the variables after their initial creation may “fix” them. I have not done so for this project.

Using this test project, you can see that the cloud variable will (or may) actually update when the variable is changed by someone else while the project is open. If you open two copies of the project and change a variable in one, those updates do appear in the other. They just don't load the current value when the project first starts (everyone starts at zero, regardless of what was last recorded to the Cloud). This symptom was also present during past recurring cloud issues.


Interestingly, my Prior Test Project created after the cloud outage last fall still works just fine. My other older projects also appear to be unaffected.



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karisantos
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I am also seeing that cloud variables are not accessed from the cloud when a project is reloaded. Cloud history shows the latest values.
draculabackwards
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Scratch cloud data worked for me!
Boss_1s
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dave3m wrote:

I can add myself to the users confirming that new cloud variables are now exhibiting the problem noted above – as has happened before, they update in the history log but do not appear to load their current values when restarting the project. In the past, this sometimes occurred with a variable delay up to a few minutes.


I created a New Cloud Click Test Project, similar to my previous one and it exhibits this problem. As stated above, renaming the variables after their initial creation may “fix” them. I have not done so for this project.

Using this test project, you can see that the cloud variable will (or may) actually update when the variable is changed by someone else while the project is open. If you open two copies of the project and change a variable in one, those updates do appear in the other. They just don't load the current value when the project first starts (everyone starts at zero, regardless of what was last recorded to the Cloud). This symptom was also present during past recurring cloud issues.


Interestingly, my Prior Test Project created after the cloud outage last fall still works just fine. My other older projects also appear to be unaffected.

According to the cloud monitor, the changes to the value appear, but when you reload the page, the cloud variable aren't grabbing the last value in the log. This may be a problem in the Scratch Website's code or something.

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(() and ()::operators) //same as the boolean, but for reporting
<my boolean ::variables> //only stores true or false
show all variables::variables
hide all variable::variables
show all lists::list
hide all lists::list
…and more!

Alt accounts: @Boss_1sALT(for cloud testing and other stuff), @Boss_1sARCHIVE(Archive of older game versions)

Hi, my name is @Boss_1s!
I'm 12 years old, and I joined Scratch to relearn block coding.
Other projects:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/869604293/ - cool MMO platformer
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/792424859/ - This is my first ORIGINAL game.
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/914686250/ - NEW! Remixed an RPG from Griffpatch, though it's pretty boring right now…
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/895107188/ - NEW! Safe chat with anyone on Scratch, whitelist is present
Secret Special Advanced Project (SSAdP): COMPLETED!!! https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/946720515/

Predominant Languages:
I speak American English and Chinese.
我說美文和中文。

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medians
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The cloud vars on these projects are broken:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/964789439/
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/718253352/
This one works:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/910460015/

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Boss_1s
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medians wrote:

The cloud vars on these projects are broken:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/964789439/
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/718253352/
This one works:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/910460015/
Weird…
a 71xxxxxxx(older) ID and a 96xxxxxxx(newer) Id doesn't work, but the one in between (91xxxxxxx) works. Maybe cause they fixed around the time 91x projects were created so those work?

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Blocks Scratch should have:
substring [letter#1] [letter#2] [string] ::operators //finds the string between a string
pause [this script v] for (1) seconds ::control
(() or ()::operators)
(() and ()::operators) //same as the boolean, but for reporting
<my boolean ::variables> //only stores true or false
show all variables::variables
hide all variable::variables
show all lists::list
hide all lists::list
…and more!

Alt accounts: @Boss_1sALT(for cloud testing and other stuff), @Boss_1sARCHIVE(Archive of older game versions)

Hi, my name is @Boss_1s!
I'm 12 years old, and I joined Scratch to relearn block coding.
Other projects:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/869604293/ - cool MMO platformer
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/792424859/ - This is my first ORIGINAL game.
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/914686250/ - NEW! Remixed an RPG from Griffpatch, though it's pretty boring right now…
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/895107188/ - NEW! Safe chat with anyone on Scratch, whitelist is present
Secret Special Advanced Project (SSAdP): COMPLETED!!! https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/946720515/

Predominant Languages:
I speak American English and Chinese.
我說美文和中文。

That's all for my signature, folks! cya!
goodcontent101
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This bug is fixed please close this thread.
Fluffygamer_
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goodcontent101 wrote:

(#1759)
This bug is fixed please close this thread.
it's not really fixed + this topic is for reporting every glitches about cloud, so it's still usefull

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(O(w :: variables)O :: sensing) // This is Dogee. He helps me doing projects

('-' :: list) // This is Little. She verify that evil kumquats aren't coming.

° ° :: #0055ff //  This is 2S. He is the best animator I never seen on scratch. His account is Scratcheurscratch (https://scratch.mit.edu/users/Scratcheurscratch)

when green flag clicked :: cap //  This is Soja. I don't know if it's a boy or a girl but who cares ? Soja often draw thumbnails for my projects.
medians
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goodcontent101 wrote:

This bug is fixed please close this thread.
No, cloud variables have the reverting issue again (newer projects and older projects).
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/964789439/
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/718253352/

NEW: Medians bamboozled by 3.0 (version 3.0): https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/979822351/
hi875230163394: You're similar to valve in that you both hate a certain number…
Scratch 0.x, 1.x, 2.x, 3.x and LogoBlocks Archives
Bamboozlement: https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/33739789
Fun_Cupcake_i81: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/850535211/
Years on internet: 15 (soon 16)
medians: Oh god not this utc - 12 thing again..
Fun_Cupcake_i81: What, were you expecting not to see the utc - 12 thing again? THE UTC - 12 THIGN ALWAYS RETURNS. ALWAYS.
medians: I knew it would happen. I was the one who started it last year.
Fun_Cupcake_i81: Well then if you didn't want it back maybe you need to time travel to last year and fix that

Oh wait if you could time travel I think we all know exactly when you would go-
user1: That picture is from 2.0. Now he’s at my house and is my pet.
user2: But this is medians we're talking about, so “from 2.0” can mean the same thing as “from five seconds ago”.

Detect Scratch version here
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GamerLGuy
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sdg1 wrote:

As you may seen in today's announcement, we deployed a new version of the Cloud Data server. Most of this is code reorganization, and some performance improvements, so there may be a few glitches in this new version. Please report in this thread if you face any glitches. Remember to include information about your operating system, browser, and a link to your project.

Also, I know that some people have reported slowdown of Cloud variable updates recently. Please report those here as well, especially if you used to get faster speeds, but now Cloud variable updates lag significantly.

[Updated 08/30/2013: Based on your reports, I fixed a bunch of problems. Thanks, and keep more of these reports coming in (still working on the glitches that have been already reported, and are still not fixed). For a list of what changed, check out this forum post: http://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/14722/ ]

Note from Paddle2see - In February of 2018, an update was done to Cloud variables that limits the length of them to 256 characters, as well as a few other restrictions. Please see this post for more information. This should not be reported as a bug. Thanks!
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