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- starlightsparker
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
So I’m suggesting that instead of closing duplicate topics, st dustbins them. The thing is, I use “site:scratch.mit.edu/discuss” to find dupes, but a lot of times, other dupes of the original topic I’m trying to find clog up the results which is annoying.
And dupes overall clog up the forums, so it’s annoying
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And dupes overall clog up the forums, so it’s annoying
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Last edited by starlightsparker (March 22, 2024 20:09:45)
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
Just curious, how many people use site:scratch.mit.edu/discuss to find dupes? Also, dupes are allowed in some forums, like QaS. People just don't know that is was a duplicate, nothing wrong with making a mistake.
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
Full support. All the valid arguments on the dupe can just be re-posted on the original thread.
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
I don’t know. But I don’t use ocular cause scratchdb is broken. Just curious, how many people use site:scratch.mit.edu/discuss to find dupes? Also, dupes are allowed in some forums, like QaS. People just don't know that is was a duplicate, nothing wrong with making a mistake.
And this will only apply to forums that close dupes already, obviously. And dustbinning dupes isn’t punishing the person who made the dupe, I never said there’s any thing wrong with making a dupe by accident, they just clog up the forums so it’d be nice if they get dustbinned instead of closed.
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- Contraery
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
New forumers won't be able to learn that their topic was a duplicate and would ask in QaS. That may not sound like a problem, but you are also not directing the conversation to the original.
Just because you wanna look for duplicates doesn't mean it should come at the price of confusing new forumers.
Just because you wanna look for duplicates doesn't mean it should come at the price of confusing new forumers.
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
What if there was insightful discussion in the dupe, then if dusted, then cannot be replicated in the original? Finding the original isn't hard, you just search for the topic with the most posts / people link dupes / this
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
Well people will already point out the dupe before it’s dustbinned therefore the scratcher will know. New forumers won't be able to learn that their topic was a duplicate and would ask in QaS. That may not sound like a problem, but you are also not directing the conversation to the original.
Just because you wanna look for duplicates doesn't mean it should come at the price of confusing new forumers.
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
thisWhat if there was insightful discussion in the dupe, then if dusted, then cannot be replicated in the original? Finding the original isn't hard, you just search for the topic with the most posts / people link dupes /
Full support. All the valid arguments on the dupe can just be re-posted on the original thread.
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- Contraery
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(#7)That's assuming OP had time to view the topic before it got dustbinned - People like me wouldn't have that much free time, but that's just me I guess
Well people will already point out the dupe before it’s dustbinned therefore the scratcher will know.
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- starlightsparker
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
Maybe this is a little unrealistic but what if an ST member closes it, and only dustbins it after a set amount of time, and they can have a queue for closed dupes to dustbin later. They manually add it to the queue when they close it.(#7)That's assuming OP had time to view the topic before it got dustbinned - People like me wouldn't have that much free time, but that's just me I guess
Well people will already point out the dupe before it’s dustbinned therefore the scratcher will know.
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- roofogato
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
If it's dusted, how can you replicate the posts? You wouldn't be able to see themFull support. All the valid arguments on the dupe can just be re-posted on the original thread.
Also, I feel like thread creators should have the right to see their own threads, dupe or not.
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
If it’s implemented, after a short amount of time I’m sure users will get used to it and know to add the posts to the original topic before it’s dustbinned. Simple.If it's dusted, how can you replicate the posts? You wouldn't be able to see themFull support. All the valid arguments on the dupe can just be re-posted on the original thread.
Also, I feel like thread creators should have the right to see their own threads, dupe or not.
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- unmet
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure topics would show up on there regardless of whether or not the topic is dustbinned, (I'm pretty sure the link stays and redirects you to the dustbin) so this wouldn't really solve anything.
- starlightsparker
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
It doesn’t get indexed if its dustbinned i believe correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure topics would show up on there regardless of whether or not the topic is dustbinned, (I'm pretty sure the link stays and redirects you to the dustbin) so this wouldn't really solve anything.
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- Contraery
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(#10)Still doesn't resolve the problem for people who might not have that much time.
Maybe this is a little unrealistic but what if an ST member closes it, and only dustbins it after a set amount of time, and they can have a queue for closed dupes to dustbin later. They manually add it to the queue when they close it.
(#12)If they keep track AND MEMORIZE their points and they haven't been made in the original topic.
If it’s implemented, after a short amount of time I’m sure users will get used to it and know to add the posts to the original topic before it’s dustbinned. Simple.
That's highly circumstancial.
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- chippysmall4
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
If there is a lot of discussion in the topic, it will get merged with the original, if this were implemented, merges would become rare, because most merge requests are sent after the topic is closed. Merges are intended to fix the issue of points made in the duplicate. If this were implemented, the fix intended to fix that would not function as efficiently.
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
Merges are made when the newer topic is still open. And tbh, merges are already rare in the start. If there is a lot of discussion in the topic, it will get merged with the original, if this were implemented, merges would become rare, because most merge requests are sent after the topic is closed. Merges are intended to fix the issue of points made in the duplicate. If this were implemented, the fix intended to fix that would not function as efficiently.
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Dustbin dupes instead of closing them
If a ST member needs to refer to dustbinned topics unrelated to dupes, it will be harder to do so.
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