I don't think I really remember having hardware that Linux didn't support (except for an old Intel IGP — I think it worked but OpenGL 1.4 was all one could use with it on Linux, or something like that — and that printer I already mentioned).

Linux has very broad hardware support compared to other free OSes like OpenBSD, and a great many satisfied users. But even with OpenBSD on one netbook I haven't had problems, let alone Linux.

Hi

Linux would seem like a waste of time for most people because they just want to use a computer. (Same with open-source)

b1048546 wrote:

Linux would seem like a waste of time for most people because they just want to use a computer. (Same with open-source)

honestly, windows/chrome os seems like a waste of time for me because you have to install separate programs to change the UI font (and you can't even do it on chrome os lol)

kccuber wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

Linux would seem like a waste of time for most people because they just want to use a computer. (Same with open-source)

honestly, windows/chrome os seems like a waste of time for me because you have to install separate programs to change the UI font (and you can't even do it on chrome os lol)

Talking about most people here… Most people just want/need to use a computer…

b1048546 wrote:

kccuber wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

Linux would seem like a waste of time for most people because they just want to use a computer. (Same with open-source)

honestly, windows/chrome os seems like a waste of time for me because you have to install separate programs to change the UI font (and you can't even do it on chrome os lol)

Talking about most people here… Most people just want/need to use a computer…

In my opinion, linux is DEFINITELY not a waste of time. It allows you as little or as much control as you want.
At our current state, linux might not be for everyone, but fairly soon it will reach a great state.
For example, we have several advancements that put us ahead of other alternative OSes, and our customization is far superior.

- Linux has updates when YOU want them.
- Linux now has a method to ship stable updates (w/ OSTree. No more windows update *.)
- Linux gives YOU the power, not some corporation.
- Linux reclaims your computer for your usage.
- Linux is private and secure (if you'd like. It doesn't HAVE to be)
- Linux is universal. It is used everywhere from phones and fridges to servers and automobiles.
- Linux apps are (fairly) universal, especially with flatpak.
- Linux is free.

Linux is for everyone. A balance between work and play, between open and secure, a balance between anything you want. It's yours for the making.

--Velocity-- wrote:

In my opinion, linux is DEFINITELY not a waste of time. It allows you as little or as much control as you want.
At our current state, linux might not be for everyone, but fairly soon it will reach a great state.
For example, we have several advancements that put us ahead of other alternative OSes, and our customization is far superior.

- Linux has updates when YOU want them.
- Linux now has a method to ship stable updates (w/ OSTree. No more windows update *.)
- Linux gives YOU the power, not some corporation.
- Linux reclaims your computer for your usage.
- Linux is private and secure (if you'd like. It doesn't HAVE to be)
- Linux is universal. It is used everywhere from phones and fridges to servers and automobiles.
- Linux apps are (fairly) universal, especially with flatpak.
- Linux is free.

Linux is for everyone. A balance between work and play, between open and secure, a balance between anything you want. It's yours for the making.

Alright, here's my opinion:

1. What do you mean by saying that Linux has updates when you want them? Am I just blind or something? I'm not sure…

2. Keep in mind, I never said Windows is good.

3. That's a good thing for everyone/OS. People who want the power can use Linux, and people who don't care can use any OS.

4. I don't know what you mean.

5. Yeah, it has its advantages for sure.

6. How is that useful?

7. App compatibility.

8. So is MacOS and ChromeOS. Here's the thing, most people who use computers don't need to update their OS, like ever. I know people who have never updated their computer and have had it for over 7 years. Keep in mind, I'm not saying that everyone won't like Linux, I'm saying average people wouldn't. I can make a case for people who like tinkering and are interested too. If your experience with Linux is better than all your other experiences, then use it! You get a completely open-source, private, and secure OS that is all yours. If not, you can choose to keep going or not. If someone has a bad experience with Linux, that's okay. (I see a lot of people who like Linux who get angry at people who tried out Linux and don't like it.)

My own points:

1. Most people are just using a computer to use it as a computer. What I mean is, most people either don't care about the OS they're using, don't know what an OS is, or don't know that there are alternatives to the OS they're currently using.

2. If you're already experienced with Windows/MacOS/ChromeOS, then it is annoying to have to pick a distro, learn how to use it, and then find out if their software works. (People do use Photoshop, Microsoft Office, etc.) Lots will have software/hardware problems. If you didn't, great! Enjoy Linux, but someone else may have that problem.

3. In my opinion, most people would be more productive with a better GUI than CLI.

4. People do lots of gaming and use apps that might not be compatible. While Linux is great at being customizable, you can't use these things. It's the same the other way around, but Linux has such a small market share so it doesn't matter.

5. Linux users say that 99% of people's problems with Linux have to do with the user. Yes, Windows has lots of problems too, but you see many things that people get wrong at first. Simple mistakes can turn into a huge problem in some cases. It doesn't help that some in the Linux community think it's common knowledge but that's not really a Linux problem.

Linux is not a waste of time if you enjoy tinkering with it. (I think it is a hobbyist OS but once you get used to it, things go smoothly most of the time.)

There's 2 main problems with Linux:

Compatibility. Companies don't make software for Linux because of small market share and people don't use Linux because of software support. This is a huge problem and may not be something Linux can get out of. But the Linux community is awesome, so we'll see what happens in the coming years.

Difficulty Curve. I think this is simple to explain. Things that are easier to do in Windows may be harder to do in Linux. I know most average users (in my opinion) would dislike relying on the CLI a lot. GUI package managers and GUI/UX in general needs some work on Linux and to be more user friendly. If people like the CLI, they would use that, if not, then they use the GUI.

By the way, I use MacOS because I'm more productive on it than using Linux.

b1048546 wrote:

8. So is MacOS and ChromeOS.

macos requires a mac, chromiumOS is free but I don't think chromeOS is free

god286 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

8. So is MacOS and ChromeOS.

macos requires a mac, chromiumOS is free but I don't think chromeOS is free

And you may need new hardware to use Linux. (again, not the case with everyone)

b1048546 wrote:

god286 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

8. So is MacOS and ChromeOS.

macos requires a mac, chromiumOS is free but I don't think chromeOS is free

And you may need new hardware to use Linux. (again, not the case with everyone)

It's really funny because as you post this I'm listening to Linux Unplugged episode #426

b1048546 wrote:

--Velocity-- wrote:

In my opinion, linux is DEFINITELY not a waste of time. It allows you as little or as much control as you want.
At our current state, linux might not be for everyone, but fairly soon it will reach a great state.
For example, we have several advancements that put us ahead of other alternative OSes, and our customization is far superior.

- Linux has updates when YOU want them.
- Linux now has a method to ship stable updates (w/ OSTree. No more windows update *.)
- Linux gives YOU the power, not some corporation.
- Linux reclaims your computer for your usage.
- Linux is private and secure (if you'd like. It doesn't HAVE to be)
- Linux is universal. It is used everywhere from phones and fridges to servers and automobiles.
- Linux apps are (fairly) universal, especially with flatpak.
- Linux is free.

Linux is for everyone. A balance between work and play, between open and secure, a balance between anything you want. It's yours for the making.

Alright, here's my opinion:

1. What do you mean by saying that Linux has updates when you want them? Am I just blind or something? I'm not sure…

2. Keep in mind, I never said Windows is good.

3. That's a good thing for everyone/OS. People who want the power can use Linux, and people who don't care can use any OS.

4. I don't know what you mean.

5. Yeah, it has its advantages for sure.

6. How is that useful?

7. App compatibility.

8. So is MacOS and ChromeOS. Here's the thing, most people who use computers don't need to update their OS, like ever. I know people who have never updated their computer and have had it for over 7 years. Keep in mind, I'm not saying that everyone won't like Linux, I'm saying average people wouldn't. I can make a case for people who like tinkering and are interested too. If your experience with Linux is better than all your other experiences, then use it! You get a completely open-source, private, and secure OS that is all yours. If not, you can choose to keep going or not. If someone has a bad experience with Linux, that's okay. (I see a lot of people who like Linux who get angry at people who tried out Linux and don't like it.)

My own points:

1. Most people are just using a computer to use it as a computer. What I mean is, most people either don't care about the OS they're using, don't know what an OS is, or don't know that there are alternatives to the OS they're currently using.

2. If you're already experienced with Windows/MacOS/ChromeOS, then it is annoying to have to pick a distro, learn how to use it, and then find out if their software works. (People do use Photoshop, Microsoft Office, etc.) Lots will have software/hardware problems. If you didn't, great! Enjoy Linux, but someone else may have that problem.

3. In my opinion, most people would be more productive with a better GUI than CLI.

4. People do lots of gaming and use apps that might not be compatible. While Linux is great at being customizable, you can't use these things. It's the same the other way around, but Linux has such a small market share so it doesn't matter.

5. Linux users say that 99% of people's problems with Linux have to do with the user. Yes, Windows has lots of problems too, but you see many things that people get wrong at first. Simple mistakes can turn into a huge problem in some cases. It doesn't help that some in the Linux community think it's common knowledge but that's not really a Linux problem.

Linux is not a waste of time if you enjoy tinkering with it. (I think it is a hobbyist OS but once you get used to it, things go smoothly most of the time.)

There's 2 main problems with Linux:

Compatibility. Companies don't make software for Linux because of small market share and people don't use Linux because of software support. This is a huge problem and may not be something Linux can get out of. But the Linux community is awesome, so we'll see what happens in the coming years.

Difficulty Curve. I think this is simple to explain. Things that are easier to do in Windows may be harder to do in Linux. I know most average users (in my opinion) would dislike relying on the CLI a lot. GUI package managers and GUI/UX in general needs some work on Linux and to be more user friendly. If people like the CLI, they would use that, if not, then they use the GUI.

By the way, I use MacOS because I'm more productive on it than using Linux.

1. Agreed. If everything goes well, they shouldn't even notice that they switched to Linux aside from all the new benefits. (That is, in the future. Hopefully soon!)

3. Depends. This only works if you have a good GUI (unlike KDE Settings ). CLI is much better for remote support where one can't see the UI. Also if you like a good podcast, I really like the points in this episode of LINUX Unplugged. (I promise I listen to other podcasts!!!!!!!! (I <3 you DLN ))

--Velocity-- wrote:

1. Agreed. If everything goes well, they shouldn't even notice that they switched to Linux aside from all the new benefits. (That is, in the future. Hopefully soon!)

Hopefully! Linux is a really well made OS and switching from Windows should be easy. Better GUI and hopefully better software support might be enough!

--Velocity-- wrote:

3. Depends. This only works if you have a good GUI (unlike KDE Settings ). CLI is much better for remote support where one can't see the UI.

Yeah, in my opinion, I think a good GUI is better than a good CLI! Sometimes, you might forget what a command does. While it's a google search away, a GUI that (in my opinion) is simpler to learn and remember would be great for the average user. Yes, CLI should be used for remote support. That's mainly used for servers though. Even if Linux becomes really easy to pickup after using Windows (etc), I don't know how many people would actually install Linux.

Here is a random selection of words that is not at all related to Linux or Open Source, however having no meaning, it is probably not off-topic.


Potato
Cake
Onion
Strawberry
Fruit
Robot
Candy
Banana
Rock
Moon
Sun
Earth
Cranberry
Soda
Can’t
Won’t
Battery
Button
Farm
Farmland
Land
Wheat
Carrot
Abiotic
Biotic
Transformation
Phone
Telegraph
Telephone
Language
Art
Math
Social
Economic
Collapse
Washing Machine
Drying machine
Tie Dye
Red
Orange
Blue
Green
Sugar
Medicine
Bottle
America
Spain
Europe
Japan
Asia
Africa
Antarctica
Denmark
Minnesota
KansasIreland
Cleveland
New Jersey
New Mexico
Mexico
California
Los Angelos
East
West
North
South
Metric
Imperial
Inches
Yards
Feet
Centimeters
Meters
Time
Date
Calendar
Travel
Scaffolding
Minecraft
Roblox
Fortnite
Call of Duty
Passing
Failing
Winning
Losing
True
False
Forwards
Backwards
Opposite
Direction

Not from a random word generator, I thought of all of these and put it in a document.

Have some words to add to the list? Comment on my profile

Anyways, back on topic.

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

Here is a random selection of words that is not at all related to Linux or Open Source, however having no meaning, it is probably not off-topic.



Button

Phone


Not from a random word generator, I thought of all of these and put it in a document.

Actually.
1. Linux has buttons.
2. Android is on phones and guess what is based off of Linux. Android.

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Turning VIM into a FULL IDE

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

Turning VIM into a FULL IDE

woah

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

Turning VIM into a FULL IDE

How?!?!?

b1048546 wrote:

Compatibility. Companies don't make software for Linux because of small market share and people don't use Linux because of software support. This is a huge problem and may not be something Linux can get out of. But the Linux community is awesome, so we'll see what happens in the coming years.

Not to mention that programs for running software for other OSes on Linux/MacOS/iPhoneOS most likely exist at this point.

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medians wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

Compatibility. Companies don't make software for Linux because of small market share and people don't use Linux because of software support. This is a huge problem and may not be something Linux can get out of. But the Linux community is awesome, so we'll see what happens in the coming years.

Not to mention that programs for running software for other OSes on Linux/MacOS/iPhoneOS most likely exist at this point.

If we can make Linux software run on i*OS/MacOS/Windows why can't/shouldn't we make that software run on Linux. We have!

Wine (+ available utilities to use alongside) to run most Windows applications.
Proton (+ available utilities) to run Windows games (flawless for most titles, even AAA
2 Popular anti-cheat software has been made available for Linux
Many native Linux titles

no MacOS Software on Linux yet, probably easy to port considering the similarities between the operating systems