-meIodii- wrote:

FreezeNova wrote:

EatNYeet wrote:

No support. This is likely the only good thing that came from the studio update, and allow me to explain why.



Studios weren't created for sending a message to followers about your new project.

Studios were created for their themes. They were created for users to interact and connect over a mutually enjoyed theme. Using these to send unwanted messages to followers about a new project isn't exactly using studios correctly. While one could argue that a single project is the theme, that doesn't really count as one. The only projects allowed in that studio would have to be remixes for it to even remotely qualify as a theme, but that doesn't seem fair at all.

While Scratch is not about fame, when one has a small amount of followers, it's more understandable to use studios like this. But when a user has a good 7k, do they really need those 50 extra views? If users care enough about a different user's content, they'll check their profile for something new every once in a while–There's no need to send them an unwanted message.

It's spammy.

As I mentioned earlier, most users get annoyed when they recieve these messages, and if it happens after almost every single project, that's a bit of an issue.

Scratch isn't about fame.

Having a lot of followers and doing this is just, no. As if 2k favorites and 5000 views per project isn't enough. It's just showing how greedy one can be with the power to invite followers easily.

Fanclubs are just fine, maybe better off this way.

Fanclubs should be for the users who actively enjoy one's content, not for every single follower. If someone doesn't want to join a fanclub, they shouldn't recieve a spam message regardless just for following someone. It's better that the users who actually want to be part of a fanclub get invited because they ask in the comments.

I see your points, however, most of my followers want to be notified when I release a new project, and only a VERY small percentage don't like it and decide to unfollow me. Because of this update, there is no way the people who want to know when I make a new project will know. If someone is recieving spam, they can similpy choose to unfollow the user.

Inviting my followers to studios is a important way to get views and loves to be able to get on trending, as someone who is following me is much more likely to love than someone who is not. (for example, my project got 10 loves for its first 50 views, (20%) but at 70000, it had 3500(2%) and yes, scratch isn't about fame, but this update still pains me as it will be alot harder to get on trending. It also shows my followers that I'm still active, and fufills the promise on my projects: “follow to get notified of new projects I make” so alot of my followers followed me so they could get notified. Taking away this feature would prevent some unwanted spam, but it would also cause lots of inconvince.

Yes! If people don't want to know why did they follow? And then if they think it's spam, just unfollow!

-meIodii- wrote:

FreezeNova wrote:

EatNYeet wrote:

No support. This is likely the only good thing that came from the studio update, and allow me to explain why.



Studios weren't created for sending a message to followers about your new project.

Studios were created for their themes. They were created for users to interact and connect over a mutually enjoyed theme. Using these to send unwanted messages to followers about a new project isn't exactly using studios correctly. While one could argue that a single project is the theme, that doesn't really count as one. The only projects allowed in that studio would have to be remixes for it to even remotely qualify as a theme, but that doesn't seem fair at all.

While Scratch is not about fame, when one has a small amount of followers, it's more understandable to use studios like this. But when a user has a good 7k, do they really need those 50 extra views? If users care enough about a different user's content, they'll check their profile for something new every once in a while–There's no need to send them an unwanted message.

It's spammy.

As I mentioned earlier, most users get annoyed when they recieve these messages, and if it happens after almost every single project, that's a bit of an issue.

Scratch isn't about fame.

Having a lot of followers and doing this is just, no. As if 2k favorites and 5000 views per project isn't enough. It's just showing how greedy one can be with the power to invite followers easily.

Fanclubs are just fine, maybe better off this way.

Fanclubs should be for the users who actively enjoy one's content, not for every single follower. If someone doesn't want to join a fanclub, they shouldn't recieve a spam message regardless just for following someone. It's better that the users who actually want to be part of a fanclub get invited because they ask in the comments.

I see your points, however, most of my followers want to be notified when I release a new project, and only a VERY small percentage don't like it and decide to unfollow me. Because of this update, there is no way the people who want to know when I make a new project will know. If someone is recieving spam, they can similpy choose to unfollow the user.

Inviting my followers to studios is a important way to get views and loves to be able to get on trending, as someone who is following me is much more likely to love than someone who is not. (for example, my project got 10 loves for its first 50 views, (20%) but at 70000, it had 3500(2%) and yes, scratch isn't about fame, but this update still pains me as it will be alot harder to get on trending. It also shows my followers that I'm still active, and fufills the promise on my projects: “follow to get notified of new projects I make” so alot of my followers followed me so they could get notified. Taking away this feature would prevent some unwanted spam, but it would also cause lots of inconvince.

Yes! If people don't want to know why did they follow? And then if they think it's spam, just unfollow!

EatNYeet wrote:

-meIodii- wrote:

FreezeNova wrote:

EatNYeet wrote:

No support. This is likely the only good thing that came from the studio update, and allow me to explain why.



Studios weren't created for sending a message to followers about your new project.

Studios were created for their themes. They were created for users to interact and connect over a mutually enjoyed theme. Using these to send unwanted messages to followers about a new project isn't exactly using studios correctly. While one could argue that a single project is the theme, that doesn't really count as one. The only projects allowed in that studio would have to be remixes for it to even remotely qualify as a theme, but that doesn't seem fair at all.

While Scratch is not about fame, when one has a small amount of followers, it's more understandable to use studios like this. But when a user has a good 7k, do they really need those 50 extra views? If users care enough about a different user's content, they'll check their profile for something new every once in a while–There's no need to send them an unwanted message.

It's spammy.

As I mentioned earlier, most users get annoyed when they recieve these messages, and if it happens after almost every single project, that's a bit of an issue.

Scratch isn't about fame.

Having a lot of followers and doing this is just, no. As if 2k favorites and 5000 views per project isn't enough. It's just showing how greedy one can be with the power to invite followers easily.

Fanclubs are just fine, maybe better off this way.

Fanclubs should be for the users who actively enjoy one's content, not for every single follower. If someone doesn't want to join a fanclub, they shouldn't recieve a spam message regardless just for following someone. It's better that the users who actually want to be part of a fanclub get invited because they ask in the comments.

I see your points, however, most of my followers want to be notified when I release a new project, and only a VERY small percentage don't like it and decide to unfollow me. Because of this update, there is no way the people who want to know when I make a new project will know. If someone is recieving spam, they can similpy choose to unfollow the user.

Inviting my followers to studios is a important way to get views and loves to be able to get on trending, as someone who is following me is much more likely to love than someone who is not. (for example, my project got 10 loves for its first 50 views, (20%) but at 70000, it had 3500(2%) and yes, scratch isn't about fame, but this update still pains me as it will be alot harder to get on trending. It also shows my followers that I'm still active, and fufills the promise on my projects: “follow to get notified of new projects I make” so alot of my followers followed me so they could get notified. Taking away this feature would prevent some unwanted spam, but it would also cause lots of inconvince.

Yes! If people don't want to know why did they follow? And then if they think it's spam, just unfollow!

That's not a valid reason to re-add the button. What if you like someone's projects but hate getting added to studios?

ScratchCat1038 wrote:

bump

US-Systems wrote:

ScratchCat1038 wrote:

bump

Thanks!

5.2 “Invite all followers” button for studios
This feature existed in Scratch 2.0, but it was an extremely easy way for one user to create lots of notification spam for other users, most of which was unwanted. By removing this feature, users are forced to work a little bit to invite a large number of users.

-meIodii- wrote:

Omigosh yes, I remember when I was at 40+ and only ONE PERSON entered my competiton and 9 people actually SAW the thing in the first place. I made a studio for my DIYS and a lot more people entered and saw it.

mrcreatorluigi wrote:

Today this was added to the rejected suggestions list, so I’ll report to close.

mrcreatorluigi wrote:

Today this was added to the rejected suggestions list, so I’ll report to close.

Alphysse wrote:

mrcreatorluigi wrote:

Today this was added to the rejected suggestions list, so I’ll report to close.

No it wasn't, Za-Chary did say that this was not rejected.

I still in no way support this suggestion, though.

mrcreatorluigi wrote:

Alphysse wrote:

mrcreatorluigi wrote:

Today this was added to the rejected suggestions list, so I’ll report to close.

No it wasn't, Za-Chary did say that this was not rejected.

I still in no way support this suggestion, though.

I thought it was added into the “rejected studio suggestions” and one of them was the invite followers tab

dhuls wrote:

mrcreatorluigi wrote:

Alphysse wrote:

mrcreatorluigi wrote:

Today this was added to the rejected suggestions list, so I’ll report to close.

No it wasn't, Za-Chary did say that this was not rejected.

I still in no way support this suggestion, though.

I thought it was added into the “rejected studio suggestions” and one of them was the invite followers tab

No, the only things he added were a complete reversion and increasing the reply limit.

pixel120 wrote:

dhuls wrote:

mrcreatorluigi wrote:

Alphysse wrote:

mrcreatorluigi wrote:

Today this was added to the rejected suggestions list, so I’ll report to close.

No it wasn't, Za-Chary did say that this was not rejected.

I still in no way support this suggestion, though.

I thought it was added into the “rejected studio suggestions” and one of them was the invite followers tab

No, the only things he added were a complete reversion and increasing the reply limit.

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