a suggestion - filterbot specificness

MiintyFluff

mybearworld wrote:
warriorcats2155 wrote:
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If this suggesstion were to come true:
some random person wrote:
*Says filterbot triggering word*
Filterbot wrote:
Something is blacklisted, here, lemme show you: (INSERT BLACKLISTED WORD)
some random person wrote:
*Fixes writing to not include the filterbot triggering word.*
Not quite.
What would happen is:
some random person wrote:
*Says filterbot triggering word*
Filterbot wrote:
Something is blacklisted, here, lemme show you: (INSERT BLACKLISTED WORD)
some random person wrote:
*Asks their parents what that word means, and tells them they learned it from scratch*
No support.

half of the time the word isn't even bad. most of the time when i trigger filterbot, it's because of keyboard spam or saying someone username. should it actually be a cuss word, however, wouldn't the child pick up that it's a bad word and shouldn't be said? children would be helped by this feature, cause it would help them recognize what is okay and what isn't. chances are they won't say they learned it from scratch anyways if they ask their parents, they'd most likely say some variation of scratch not allowing them to say it.

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mybearworld wrote:
Not quite.
What would happen is:
some random person wrote:
*Says filterbot triggering word*
Filterbot wrote:
Something is blacklisted, here, lemme show you: (INSERT BLACKLISTED WORD)
some random person wrote:
*Asks their parents what that word means, and tells them they learned it from scratch*
No support.

This situation never happens. For one, most children already know most swear words, two, it was bound to happen anyway if it hasn't already, three, only really small (and those not exactly blessed with towering intellect) would ever do that, four, most likely it will be completely undecipherable to most, and especially those who don't know that word, and five, even if they did learn a swear word from some underlined segment that the filter detects, if you tell people a word is bad, they won't ask their parents what it means.

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Wario1027

MiintyFluff wrote:
half of the time the word isn't even bad. most of the time when i trigger filterbot, it's because of keyboard spam or saying someone username. should it actually be a cuss word, however, wouldn't the child pick up that it's a bad word and shouldn't be said? children would be helped by this feature, cause it would help them recognize what is okay and what isn't. chances are they won't say they learned it from scratch anyways if they ask their parents, they'd most likely say some variation of scratch not allowing them to say it.

Perfection.

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YtArie5

Support, sometimes I get muted for accidentally typing something the filterbot thinks is innapropriate.

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Wario1027

YtArie5 wrote:
Support, sometimes I get muted for accidentally typing something the filterbot thinks is innapropriate.

bruh

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warriorcats2155

YtArie5 wrote:
Support, sometimes I get muted for accidentally typing something the filterbot thinks is innapropriate.

OOF rip

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hiPeeps124816

Support, now I won't get muted for saying constructive comments that often.

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WindOctahedron wrote:
CatGuyAnimates wrote:
I do NOT support. If one accidentally typed a bad word and the filter said “NO! No say BLANK!” Then bam, the child learned a new bad word. Now he/she/they cannot use Scratch because of the very reason the filter exists.
Learning that something is inappropriate ≠ using something inappropriate. In fact, if you knew that something is forbidden and you could get punished for doing that, you would avoid it, wouldn't you? And if you didn't know that there are rules, wouldn't the chance of you breaking them increase?
The main point, telling children inappropriate words is bad.
At least they would know what not to say. Sure, they can misuse the warning and speak rudely, but that's why the report button was created - to tell the Scratch Team that they broke the rules, and let them stop the user.
Think of it from the point of view of a parent. Would you want your child learning bad words? Learning its inappropriate may cause some children to want to use it even more. Teaching children bad words when they accidentally type them may cause some parents to think Scratch is not friendly for children.

I learned tons of bad words, whether I wanted to or not. Yet I never cussed these words. It's really unlikely that you want to actually use the new bad words you learned.

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starbyt wrote:
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Filterbot needs to be more specific about what, specifically, is offensive about a user's comment.

I’m going to repeat my guess on this from another topic because, so far, no one on the Scratch Team has said its a silly idea.

It’s an advantage to the Scratch Team if their website does not point out bad words. The Scratch Team’s main goal appears to be the dissemination of Scratch and in order to be welcome everywhere they don’t want their software to do anything offensive like highlighting bad words.

They are less worried about people coming to the forums to ask about bad words - even though more people “learn” bad words or phrases - because this way their main product (Scratch web site) and the Scratch Team are not involved.

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CatGuyAnimates wrote:
WindOctahedron wrote:
CatGuyAnimates wrote:
I do NOT support. If one accidentally typed a bad word and the filter said “NO! No say BLANK!” Then bam, the child learned a new bad word. Now he/she/they cannot use Scratch because of the very reason the filter exists.
Learning that something is inappropriate ≠ using something inappropriate. In fact, if you knew that something is forbidden and you could get punished for doing that, you would avoid it, wouldn't you? And if you didn't know that there are rules, wouldn't the chance of you breaking them increase?
The main point, telling children inappropriate words is bad.
At least they would know what not to say. Sure, they can misuse the warning and speak rudely, but that's why the report button was created - to tell the Scratch Team that they broke the rules, and let them stop the user.
Think of it from the point of view of a parent. Would you want your child learning bad words? Learning its inappropriate may cause some children to want to use it even more. Teaching children bad words when they accidentally type them may cause some parents to think Scratch is not friendly for children.

Literally most adults say bad words in front of kids, whether it be in the supermarket, or outside when someones talking on the phone. Parents should have to teach children what is bad and not bad.

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JUST BECAUSE THERES A WORKAROUND ISNT A GOOD REASON TO NOT SUPPORT!!!

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Anyways, support. Filterbot should tell you what is wrong so that you dont repeat the same mistake in the future.

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dave-alt-4

semi to no support
here's why :

say “cat” was a bad word

someone would get muted for saying catastrophe. highlighting cat would teach the child a bad word (which wasn't meant to be) , also , people could try to abuse that to get around the filter such as changing cat to something else or add letters in between

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support, only if it still mutes you.

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GIitchInTheMatrix

If it teaches the kid a bad word, that counteracts the point of not teaching kids bad words. It also counteracts the point of muting, as someone comments a bit cheesy and learns a new colorful word. Heck, using a bad word is often a lot cooler when you’re told not to

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TheOneAndOnlySnx

100% support. Simply highlighting or underlining the bad words would make it so the kids wouldn't know how to use them properly, meaning that they'd have to look them up, shifting the blame off of Scratch. If parents don't want to use Scratch because it tells their kids what not to say, it's not that big of a deal– Scratch isn't a paid service.

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No support, this tells people what words they need to figure out a bypass for.

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PaperMarioFan2022

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Support 101%!!! This would help stop the drama over unexplained mutings.

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I support! The filterbot is really bad at explaining what you did wrong after posting the comment, and it only shows what you did wrong in a a light blue high-lighted text box instead of somewhere where users can see it in view.

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