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technoboy10
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

BattleBearsFTW wrote:

Good to know some museum run by adults see's scratch as rivalry because of ONE studio. Scratchers, prepare for a war.
An awesomeness war? We win automatically.

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Happiny-64
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

sockman101 wrote:

I think we should change the name to Scratch animation Hall of Fame instead. It shows that it's made by scratch but won't take time to change to.
They weren't happy when the title was changed to “Scratch animation Hall of Fame” so the ST had to change it- AGAIN.

Last edited by Happiny-64 (March 21, 2014 20:28:23)


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groovythemes
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

Lightnin wrote:



Recently the owner of the registered trademark for “Animation Hall of Fame” contacted us to request that we rename or remove a Scratch Studio titled “Animation Hall of Fame”. Apparently when one Googles “Animation Hall of Fame,” the link to their organization is first, but the results also include a link to a Scratch Studio with the same name.

We see the value of trademark law: We wouldn't want anyone else to be able to create a programming language called Scratch. That could lead to a lot of confusion, and wouldn't be fair. However, there are limits to how broadly trademark should be applied. For example, if someone created a skateboard called Scratch, I don't think we'd have much reason to complain (as long as they weren't using our logo, or claiming some kind of association or endorsement from us.)

But in this case, we don't feel that this trademark claim is reasonable or fair. According to the About page on their website, their “Animation Hall of Fame” is:

“To be located in the Central Florida area of the United States, the Animation Hall of Fame, Inc. complex will be an international interactive, entertainment attraction honoring the history and heritage of Animation from around the world. This state of the art high-tech complex and each of its venues will be designed to educate and entertain animation fans and non-fans alike from around the world.”
( http://animationhalloffame.org/about.html )

The Scratch studio formerly titled “Animation Hall of Fame” is, well, a Scratch studio: A webpage, created by a Scratcher, that shows projects made by kids who are learning to program animations with Scratch, a free programming tool created at MIT.

http://scratch.mit.edu/studios/346625/
(Check it out- there are some good Scratch animations in there!)

Is it really reasonable to demand that we rename this Scratch studio to avoid possible confusion between a multimillion dollar complex in Florida, and a webpage with some Scratch projects? We really don't think so. But because taking legal action to contest this would be very expensive and time consuming, we agreed to change the title of the studio formerly known as “Animation Hall of Fame” to: “Scratch Hall of Fame - Animation.” I guess this clarifies what should be pretty obvious: A webpage with some Scratch projects is not likely to be confused with a multimillion dollar museum.
That's interesting…anyhow great job Wazzo!

Thanks,
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firefang16
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

Snivy10 wrote:

when green flag clicked
stop [these stupid TM stuff. v]
say [It is not something worth complaining about] for (as long as it takes) secs


Exactly.

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fupi437
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25 posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

Lightnin, I don't think that you will answer. I'm from Brazil. Can I translate your posts to other Brazillians, like me, understand? Yes, I can do that without using translators (translation to English on this post can't be 100% right).

Fupi437. A diversão começa aqui. Projetos incríveis completamente em português!!
lovepiggies03
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7 posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

this is brilliant
turkey3
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1000+ posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

Change it to “Hall of Fame of Animations”

Mazdafreak
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100+ posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

Lightnin wrote:



Recently the owner of the registered trademark for “Animation Hall of Fame” contacted us to request that we rename or remove a Scratch Studio titled “Animation Hall of Fame”. Apparently when one Googles “Animation Hall of Fame,” the link to their organization is first, but the results also include a link to a Scratch Studio with the same name.

We see the value of trademark law: We wouldn't want anyone else to be able to create a programming language called Scratch. That could lead to a lot of confusion, and wouldn't be fair. However, there are limits to how broadly trademark should be applied. For example, if someone created a skateboard called Scratch, I don't think we'd have much reason to complain (as long as they weren't using our logo, or claiming some kind of association or endorsement from us.)

But in this case, we don't feel that this trademark claim is reasonable or fair. According to the About page on their website, their “Animation Hall of Fame” is:

“To be located in the Central Florida area of the United States, the Animation Hall of Fame, Inc. complex will be an international interactive, entertainment attraction honoring the history and heritage of Animation from around the world. This state of the art high-tech complex and each of its venues will be designed to educate and entertain animation fans and non-fans alike from around the world.”
( http://animationhalloffame.org/about.html )

The Scratch studio formerly titled “Animation Hall of Fame” is, well, a Scratch studio: A webpage, created by a Scratcher, that shows projects made by kids who are learning to program animations with Scratch, a free programming tool created at MIT.

http://scratch.mit.edu/studios/346625/
(Check it out- there are some good Scratch animations in there!)

Is it really reasonable to demand that we rename this Scratch studio to avoid possible confusion between a multimillion dollar complex in Florida, and a webpage with some Scratch projects? We really don't think so. But because taking legal action to contest this would be very expensive and time consuming, we agreed to change the title of the studio formerly known as “Animation Hall of Fame” to: “Scratch Hall of Fame - Animation.” I guess this clarifies what should be pretty obvious: A webpage with some Scratch projects is not likely to be confused with a multimillion dollar museum.
Jeez…they probably just want to make the news. The more publicity, the more people will learn about them and what they do.

ev3commander
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

Snivy10 wrote:

when green flag clicked
stop [these stupid TM stuff. v]
say [It is not something worth complaining about] for (as long as it takes) secs
Please don't blockspam!


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splatsplot
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

stevetheipad wrote:

splatsplot wrote:

szogun wrote:

if <AHOF sues Scratch> then
<<take torch> and <burn down AHOF>>
end
that is a good idea
lightnin you getting all of this
**VIOLENCE IS THE ANSWER**
well i would not say that but something has to be done with this madness

Last edited by splatsplot (March 22, 2014 02:26:04)

lmjangellyric
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13 posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

OMG That is so unfair! It's pretty obvious that a multi- million dollar mueseum is not that same as a couple of games. Think about how many Frosted Flakes brands that there are! And they are all cereal. These people need to get over it!
Mistop
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51 posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

mozarty wrote:

The thing is, kids, which predominantly make up the Scratch website, do not and will not take the time to search up a trademark.

Apart from any teenagers who are also on Wikia

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hihohihohi
New to Scratch
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

does that mean i cant use my ™, BobTheMouldyCheerio™, on scratch. or does it mean i cant use other peoples ™s on scratch
P110
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

*sigh* people annoy me sometimes
veryeasytoremember
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3 posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

The_Grits wrote:

Wow… this would make for a funny newspaper article… “Multimillion dollar complex demands name change of a Children's Online Studio” XD
if <[museum] = [angry]> then

set [ Kids Animation Studio] to [About to be sued]
end

Some people just need to take it easy with the trademark law…
splatsplot
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22 posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

veryeasytoremember wrote:

The_Grits wrote:

Wow… this would make for a funny newspaper article… “Multimillion dollar complex demands name change of a Children's Online Studio” XD
if <[museum] = [angry]> then

set [ Kids Animation Studio] to [About to be sued]
end

Some people just need to take it easy with the trademark law…
YOU THINK
veryeasytoremember
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3 posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

*sudden realization* wait, can you really use HTML on this? Let me test:



:0 That isn't normal HTML, it's different… (like different brackets, [ instead of < )

Last edited by veryeasytoremember (March 22, 2014 17:04:34)

veryeasytoremember
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3 posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

turkey3 wrote:

Change it to “Hall of Fame of Animations”


turkey3 also put an image linking it to a game of his/hers. How do you code your images to HTML? I tried:

<a href=“scratch.mit.edu/projects/somerandomnumber”> <img target=“_blank” src=“blank”> </a>

and that didn't work. Is it even HTML, or something different?

Last edited by veryeasytoremember (March 22, 2014 17:10:47)

ProdigyZeta7
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

I can feel every cell in my brain cringe. This is just…

If other companies catch up on what AHOF did, Scratch could be facing lawsuits in the not-so-distant future for “infringing” on copyrights/trademarks. Utterly diabolical and unreasonable.

“Famous Animations on Scratch” would work.



SuperFun102030
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4 posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

when green flag clicked

ask [How does this help that company?] and wait

if <(answer) = [true]> then

say [Oh,]
end

Last edited by SuperFun102030 (March 22, 2014 20:11:52)

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