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FinalFantasyVIII
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

The studio isn't even trademarked. They shouldn't have the right to just… mess with people's personal belongings that are shared with other people.

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-Scribbler-
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35 posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

mozarty wrote:

Interesting.
What's the most interesting is how it got edited before the post was made.
-Scribbler-
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

-Scribbler- wrote:

mozarty wrote:

Interesting.
What's the most interesting is how it got edited before the post was made.
Oops, nvm, I made a mistake.
fireaction2001
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100+ posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

xD REALLY?! “Oh hi, we're from a multimillion dolor museum, and we think that a compilation of children's animations being followed by 7 people might be getting half as popular as us. Please devastate them and remove their hard work from the face of internet. Thankyou.”

*Insert cringey early 2000's meme here*
SANDIman
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8 posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

when green flag clicked
Well Trade marks is bad:cool:
thehendershot
New Scratcher
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

Yeesh that is a bit harsh like really your going to sue a bunch of kids? really? what kind of person would do that! its not like we are using it in a commercial like wow people…..tnx
JTAChicago
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11 posts

Trademark and the Scratch online community

The_Duke wrote:

well that clears up allot about ™ for me btw first to see!
funonthebungames
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

when green flag clicked
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when I receive [trademarks v]
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VoltageGames
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

Just like NAMCO and that one Pac Man project that got taken down…
I believe cheddagirl once said about NAMCO: (This is a paraphrase, of course)
I guess they thought a young kids project about pac man was gonna lose them tons of money…
I suppose it's the same for Animation Hall of Fame.

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CutieCreator
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

No one would confuse a studio with 30 second animations and a big GIANT museum with 2 hour movies. But if you're talking about legal stuff……..

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LightningGuy
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

Lightnin wrote:



Recently the owner of the registered trademark for “Animation Hall of Fame” contacted us to request that we rename or remove a Scratch Studio titled “Animation Hall of Fame”. Apparently when one Googles “Animation Hall of Fame,” the link to their organization is first, but the results also include a link to a Scratch Studio with the same name.

We see the value of trademark law: We wouldn't want anyone else to be able to create a programming language called Scratch. That could lead to a lot of confusion, and wouldn't be fair. However, there are limits to how broadly trademark should be applied. For example, if someone created a skateboard called Scratch, I don't think we'd have much reason to complain (as long as they weren't using our logo, or claiming some kind of association or endorsement from us.)

But in this case, we don't feel that this trademark claim is reasonable or fair. According to the About page on their website, their “Animation Hall of Fame” is:

“To be located in the Central Florida area of the United States, the Animation Hall of Fame, Inc. complex will be an international interactive, entertainment attraction honoring the history and heritage of Animation from around the world. This state of the art high-tech complex and each of its venues will be designed to educate and entertain animation fans and non-fans alike from around the world.”
( http://animationhalloffame.org/about.html )

The Scratch studio formerly titled “Animation Hall of Fame” is, well, a Scratch studio: A webpage, created by a Scratcher, that shows projects made by kids who are learning to program animations with Scratch, a free programming tool created at MIT.

http://scratch.mit.edu/studios/346625/
(Check it out- there are some good Scratch animations in there!)

Is it really reasonable to demand that we rename this Scratch studio to avoid possible confusion between a multimillion dollar complex in Florida, and a webpage with some Scratch projects? We really don't think so. But because taking legal action to contest this would be very expensive and time consuming, we agreed to change the title of the studio formerly known as “Animation Hall of Fame” to: “Scratch Hall of Fame - Animation.” I guess this clarifies what should be pretty obvious: A webpage with some Scratch projects is not likely to be confused with a multimillion dollar museum.
I agree. I don't think that one Scratch Studio should become a conflict. If the studio became famous worldwide(WE NEED BILLBOARDS) then I think that it should be considered a problem. If it's just a kid who went to the animation hall of fame and created a random studio and added projects made by kids it shouldn't be considered a problem.



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jrezneckbhds
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

SnowKittyartist
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Trademark and the Scratch online community



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whisperingscreams
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

atorubarov wrote:

That studio Aniumation Hall of Fame should change its name in orde to be fair.
if Google finds out it will be MAD. That's why try to make him change that name

Well, yeah. Maybe. But they could be kind and understanding people and just force us to delete it
Zacshap21
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

Lightnin wrote:

mozarty wrote:

The thing is, kids, which predominantly make up the Scratch website, do not and will not take the time to search up a trademark.

And this is at the core of the issue - should kids who are making Scratch studios be required to search a trademark database before choosing a general name? We really don't think so: There isn't a likelihood of confusion.

Especially for a vey general trademark. Such as animation hall of fame. I mean, Animations are one of the most popular types of projects on scratch, so why should trademarks be a problem? Aren't all scratch projects under a license or something once they are shared on the scratch website? The Creative Commons Share-Alike or something if I'm not mistaken? Or are studios not applied?



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Cool_Guy10
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

wkelly42 wrote:

Lightnin wrote:



Is it really reasonable to demand that we rename this Scratch studio to avoid possible confusion between a multimillion dollar complex in Florida, and a webpage with some Scratch projects? We really don't think so. But because taking legal action to contest this would be very expensive and time consuming, we agreed to change the title of the studio formerly known as “Animation Hall of Fame” to: “Scratch Hall of Fame - Animation.” I guess this clarifies what should be pretty obvious: A webpage with some Scratch projects is not likely to be confused with a multimillion dollar museum.
And THAT is why so many cease and desist letters are sent out about things like this. The lawyer KNOWS that it's a flimsy case at best, but they also know that people can't afford to fight it. They get what they want without having to have solid legal footing.

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Hmm. Is that because laywers are expensive? Slimy.
Cool_Guy10
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

FinalFantasyVIII wrote:

The studio isn't even trademarked. They shouldn't have the right to just… mess with people's personal belongings that are shared with other people.
Right you are.
krymat
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

I'd just rename it, less trouble than going through legal issues,

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Tymewalk
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

whisperingscreams wrote:

atorubarov wrote:

That studio Aniumation Hall of Fame should change its name in orde to be fair.
if Google finds out it will be MAD. That's why try to make him change that name

Well, yeah. Maybe. But they could be kind and understanding people and just force us to delete it

Maybe we could rename it to “Scratch Animation Hall of Fame”, so there's no confusion and it doesn't feel like a really big change to the studio.

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doodle20059
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Trademark and the Scratch online community

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