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ealgase
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I really support! Scratch needs this, and all text engines lag so much!

ST should get the top ten users from Advanced Topics to code Scratch 3 instead of the project they created.
-Cloud-
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94 posts

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Support!

Cloud | Pure excellence
octad
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59 posts

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BUMP
60 seconds…

flutehamster
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500+ posts

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Uhh, support. I actually prefer text engines though… They're more customizable, especially the ones without costumes.
find text engine*
place in backpack
use
GIVE CREDIT!

*here:
a. My fave
b. 2 place
c. Simple ones:
- costume
- using list



Count me as support anyway, I guess

Last edited by flutehamster (Sept. 29, 2015 02:09:17)


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OrionDark7
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Support! That would be really better than this:
say [Hello!] for (2) secs

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scratchinghead
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1000+ posts

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OrionDark7 wrote:

Support! That would be really better than this:
say [Hello!] for (2) secs
Yeah!

Last edited by kaj (Today 18:04:22)
-Cherri-
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Omg yes support

Hiii! :3

I'm the one and only cherbear who loves helping newbies!
DogQueenGirl
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100+ posts

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Support.
ItchyCatIII
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Support. It is already possible from the editor, so its not like we should be worried about making Scratch too simple because of it.

And I hate when I make text in bitmap, and then can't edit it. This would definitely help that! Besides, it will probably work better than making a text sprite and making it show up at a certain place/time.

Definitely support.

Don't you just hate when people advertise in their signatures (and raisin cookies that look like chocolate chip ones. That's just not okay).

#BringItBack
DrJacket
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17 posts

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Much support.
CGRises
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No support. There is a workaround. I don't care about that you think the workaround is tedious. Just suck it up, deal with it. Because an intermediate workaround is not going to get you a tailor made block. I would just do the patchwork and deal with it *puts on sunglasses* sorry if you think this is a rant. I just am willing to work with what I already have.

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IronBit_Studios
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CGRises wrote:

No support. There is a workaround. I don't care about that you think the workaround is tedious. Just suck it up, deal with it. Because an intermediate workaround is not going to get you a tailor made block. I would just do the patchwork and deal with it *puts on sunglasses* sorry if you think this is a rant. I just am willing to work with what I already have.
I understand, but that was a little harsh.

Iditaroid
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IronBit_Studios wrote:

CGRises wrote:

No support. There is a workaround. I don't care about that you think the workaround is tedious. Just suck it up, deal with it. Because an intermediate workaround is not going to get you a tailor made block. I would just do the patchwork and deal with it *puts on sunglasses* sorry if you think this is a rant. I just am willing to work with what I already have.
I understand, but that was a little harsh.
I agree! Anyway, since it's so common in other programming languages I think that this could definitely be a useful feature! I like the idea of having it print near the sprite is so that it works like the pen. I would probably leave out some of these blocks, maybe have the text color be the same as the pen color.

CGRises
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IronBit_Studios wrote:

CGRises wrote:

No support. There is a workaround. I don't care about that you think the workaround is tedious. Just suck it up, deal with it. Because an intermediate workaround is not going to get you a tailor made block. I would just do the patchwork and deal with it *puts on sunglasses* sorry if you think this is a rant. I just am willing to work with what I already have.
I understand, but that was a little harsh.
I apologized for those who thought it was a rant.

I wrote:

sorry if you think this is a rant. I just am willing to work with what I already have.
Programming is about critical thinking. Very few blocks ever get accepted, because they are workaroundable, or just plain not good ideas. I'm sorry if I am offending anyone. But it's the truth.

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scratchisthebest
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1000+ posts

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CGRises wrote:

No support. There is a workaround. I don't care about that you think the workaround is tedious. Just suck it up, deal with it. Because an intermediate workaround is not going to get you a tailor made block. I would just do the patchwork and deal with it *puts on sunglasses* sorry if you think this is a rant. I just am willing to work with what I already have.
This is a valid point, and I'm glad you posted it Well, some blocks are added for convenience. This nice little sensing block:
(distance to [mouse-pointer v])
is a lot clearer than doing the distance formula directly:
([sqrt v] of ((((x position)-(mouse x))*((x position)-(mouse x)))+(((y position)-(mouse y))*((y position)-(mouse y))))

So following this analogy, we could use another convenience block!
print [] ::pen
versus:

(having a sprite with at least 62 costumes (one for every upper+lowercase letter + 10 numbers + more?) and making a fancy script to make it draw out text character by character)

Last edited by scratchisthebest (Oct. 7, 2015 15:07:13)


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ChocolatePi
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IronBit_Studios wrote:

scrooge200 wrote:

I don't really know what the idea is, but it seems useful. Support.
Basically it's print from Python, console.log from Java/JS, etc.
console.log isn't Java. To print a single thing in Java, you have to do System.out.println (a mouthful)
IronBit_Studios
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ChocolatePi wrote:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

scrooge200 wrote:

I don't really know what the idea is, but it seems useful. Support.
Basically it's print from Python, console.log from Java/JS, etc.
console.log isn't Java. To print a single thing in Java, you have to do System.out.println (a mouthful)
Thanks, I haven't done Java in forever.
Back on topic, bump!

scratchinghead
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CGRises wrote:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

CGRises wrote:

No support. There is a workaround. I don't care about that you think the workaround is tedious. Just suck it up, deal with it. Because an intermediate workaround is not going to get you a tailor made block. I would just do the patchwork and deal with it *puts on sunglasses* sorry if you think this is a rant. I just am willing to work with what I already have.
I understand, but that was a little harsh.
I apologized for those who thought it was a rant.

I wrote:

sorry if you think this is a rant. I just am willing to work with what I already have.
Programming is about critical thinking. Very few blocks ever get accepted, because they are workaroundable, or just plain not good ideas. I'm sorry if I am offending anyone. But it's the truth.
Not just tedious, scratch is mainly for kids around 12 to learn how to program. We don't want to make things complicated. If you don't support it because it has a workaround, then we should remove these blocks too! They also have workarounds!

move () steps

turn ccw () degrees

turn cw () degrees

point towards [ v]

go to [ v]

glide () secs to x: (0) y: (0)

change x by ()

set x to ()

change y by ()

set y to ()

say [] for (2) secs

say []

think [] for (2) secs

next costume

switch backdrop to [ v]

change [ v] effect by (25)

clear graphic effects

change size by ()

go to front

change volume by ()

change tempo by ()

change pen color by ()

change pen shade by ()

change pen size by ()

when backdrop switches to [ v]

repeat ()
end

repeat until <>
end

<touching [ v] ?>

(distance to [ v])

ask () and wait

(days since 2000)

(() + (0))

(() - (0))

(pick random () to (10))

change [ v] by (0)

delete ( v) of [ v]

insert [] at (0 v) of [ v]

replace item ( v) of [ v] with [ ]

(length of [ v])

<[ v] contains [ ]>

Last edited by kaj (Today 18:04:22)
CGRises
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scratchinghead wrote:

CGRises wrote:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

CGRises wrote:

No support. There is a workaround. I don't care about that you think the workaround is tedious. Just suck it up, deal with it. Because an intermediate workaround is not going to get you a tailor made block. I would just do the patchwork and deal with it *puts on sunglasses* sorry if you think this is a rant. I just am willing to work with what I already have.
I understand, but that was a little harsh.
I apologized for those who thought it was a rant.

I wrote:

sorry if you think this is a rant. I just am willing to work with what I already have.
Programming is about critical thinking. Very few blocks ever get accepted, because they are workaroundable, or just plain not good ideas. I'm sorry if I am offending anyone. But it's the truth.
Not just tedious, scratch is mainly for kids around 12 to learn how to program. We don't want to make things complicated. If you don't support it because it has a workaround, then we should remove these blocks too! They also have workarounds!

move () steps

turn ccw () degrees

turn cw () degrees

point towards [ v]

go to [ v]

glide () secs to x: (0) y: (0)

change x by ()

set x to ()

change y by ()

set y to ()

say [] for (2) secs

say []

think [] for (2) secs

next costume

switch backdrop to [ v]

change [ v] effect by (25)

clear graphic effects

change size by ()

go to front

change volume by ()

change tempo by ()

change pen color by ()

change pen shade by ()

change pen size by ()

when backdrop switches to [ v]

repeat ()
end

repeat until <>
end

<touching [ v] ?>

(distance to [ v])

ask () and wait

(days since 2000)

(() + (0))

(() - (0))

(pick random () to (10))

change [ v] by (0)

delete ( v) of [ v]

insert [] at (0 v) of [ v]

replace item ( v) of [ v] with [ ]

(length of [ v])

<[ v] contains [ ]>
There is a difference between intermediate block and intermediate workaround, and easy block and intermediate workaround. You're talking about removing blocks for beginners, and replacing with intermediate workarounds.

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scratchinghead
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CGRises wrote:

scratchinghead wrote:

CGRises wrote:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

CGRises wrote:

No support. There is a workaround. I don't care about that you think the workaround is tedious. Just suck it up, deal with it. Because an intermediate workaround is not going to get you a tailor made block. I would just do the patchwork and deal with it *puts on sunglasses* sorry if you think this is a rant. I just am willing to work with what I already have.
I understand, but that was a little harsh.
I apologized for those who thought it was a rant.

I wrote:

sorry if you think this is a rant. I just am willing to work with what I already have.
Programming is about critical thinking. Very few blocks ever get accepted, because they are workaroundable, or just plain not good ideas. I'm sorry if I am offending anyone. But it's the truth.
Not just tedious, scratch is mainly for kids around 12 to learn how to program. We don't want to make things complicated. If you don't support it because it has a workaround, then we should remove these blocks too! They also have workarounds!

move () steps

turn ccw () degrees

turn cw () degrees

point towards [ v]

go to [ v]

glide () secs to x: (0) y: (0)

change x by ()

set x to ()

change y by ()

set y to ()

say [] for (2) secs

say []

think [] for (2) secs

next costume

switch backdrop to [ v]

change [ v] effect by (25)

clear graphic effects

change size by ()

go to front

change volume by ()

change tempo by ()

change pen color by ()

change pen shade by ()

change pen size by ()

when backdrop switches to [ v]

repeat ()
end

repeat until <>
end

<touching [ v] ?>

(distance to [ v])

ask () and wait

(days since 2000)

(() + (0))

(() - (0))

(pick random () to (10))

change [ v] by (0)

delete ( v) of [ v]

insert [] at (0 v) of [ v]

replace item ( v) of [ v] with [ ]

(length of [ v])

<[ v] contains [ ]>
There is a difference between intermediate block and intermediate workaround, and easy block and intermediate workaround. You're talking about removing blocks for beginners, and replacing with intermediate workarounds.
It's sarcasm don't you see? They have workarounds doesn't mean they shouldn't be add.

Last edited by kaj (Today 18:04:22)

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