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Microtonal / Xenharmonic Music and Composition

If you've made it here, welcome to the microtonal/xenharmonic music topic! (note for st: it's in timac cause i like making this stuff)
Discuss anything related to microtonal/xenharmonic music here.

Joe Monzo's definition of the word ‘xenharmonic’ is below.

Joe Monzo wrote:

A term coined by Ivor Darreg from the Greek words for “strange harmonic”. Darreg used it to refer to any non-12-edo (microtonal) scales, which presented strange and wonderful new intervals and sonic worlds to explore; he chose “xen” because its connotation in ancient Greek is that the stranger is to be welcomed as a guest, eventually to become more familiar, and ultimately to become a close friend.

Note that it is possible for a composition to be composed entirely of intervals that would ordinarily be considered ‘microtonal’ without sounding particularly unusual or ‘xenharmonic’; an example is Joe Monzo's 19-tone Samba; other examples would be Renaissance, Baroque and Classical music performed in historically correct temperaments.


This topic does not focus on world tunings, but world tunings can be discussed here.

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Deetwo_
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* i love 7-limit ji intervals

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megarurp
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are there any xenharmonic plugins for bandlab?

https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/593509/?page=1

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Deetwo_
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megarurp wrote:

are there any xenharmonic plugins for bandlab?
if bandlab has vst support, you can download plugins that support microtuning
https://en.xen.wiki/w/List_of_microtonal_software_plugins

Last edited by Deetwo_ (May 5, 2023 15:20:01)


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during lunch today i rambled to one of my math teachers about microtonal music and now apparently i'm gonna volunteer at a steam camp during june (they said i could talk about microtonal music) someone help meeeeeeee rrrrgghghghhghgh

and i just realized that i should probably edit the op with a bunch of stuff in a few days

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was doing some 24edo stuff in jummbox
https://tinyurl.com/2qcdk9mc

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pkhead wrote:

Deetwo_ wrote:

was doing some 24edo stuff in jummbox
https://tinyurl.com/2qcdk9mc
wow microtone in beepbox?? who knew
you can do 24edo anywhere

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Deetwo_
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Microtonal / Xenharmonic Music and Composition

Deetwo_ wrote:

was doing some 24edo stuff in jummbox
https://tinyurl.com/2qcdk9mc
https://tinyurl.com/2q5sjmlp
updated my little 24edo thing, although it's still a work in progress. i realized that the reason it was hurting my head was that i'd fully eq'd out a specific frequency and forgot (whoopsies). it might still hurt your head, however.
while i made this to mainly explore the new harmonic capabilities in 24edo, (i realized this a bit late but) 24edo has some really interesting melodic capabilities too (i am talking about the music box part past bar 26). well, i don't know what i was expecting since it's more notes than 17, 19, 22, etc. but it was a pleasant surprise. bar 31 reminds me of 5edo.

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does musescore support microtonal music composition

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DifferentDance8 wrote:

does musescore support microtonal music composition
it ‘exists’ but it's really janky from what i've heard. you're gonna have to look more online for that, since i don't use notation software. this page may be useful, perhaps: https://en.xen.wiki/w/MuseScore

by the way… just putting this out there… sagittal is the best microtonal notation you only need to learn to read like 8 new symbols for evo spartan sagittal (which is even easier if you read the mythical introduction!!) and you can notate basically all you could ever really need!!!!

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does anyone else get the sudden urge to wanna buy a kite guitar like holy * they sound so pretty


just me….? okay :(

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pkhead
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Is that a microtonal guitar right i presume that's what it is

I was thinking of trying out making microtunes, but I don't have a real DAW. Well I have LMMS but I feel like it's kind of clunky. Part of the reason why I'm making my own.

and of course a Box is an option, but those weren't designed with microtones in mind

Last edited by pkhead (May 12, 2023 21:17:10)

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pkhead wrote:

I was thinking of trying out making microtunes, but I don't have a real DAW. Well I have LMMS but I feel like it's kind of clunky. Part of the reason why I'm making my own.

and of course a Box is an option, but those weren't designed with microtones in mind
I found a secret version of LMMS once with a microtuner and a physical modelling synth. I don't have the link to it now but it's somewhere

I think you can try asking Lost Robot (one of the lmms devs) for it on the purple app because they were the main person who was developing it I think

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Hey, have you ever heard of 432 hz music? It's great…look it up. So much more relaxing than regular 440 hz tuning

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ForeverBoundless wrote:

Hey, have you ever heard of 432 hz music? It's great…look it up. So much more relaxing than regular 440 hz tuning
I hate you so much

(For context… The 432Hz conspiracy is NOT real. It won't heal your dna. And it's not relaxing.)

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Deetwo_ wrote:

(#17)

ForeverBoundless wrote:

Hey, have you ever heard of 432 hz music? It's great…look it up. So much more relaxing than regular 440 hz tuning
I hate you so much

(For context… The 432Hz conspiracy is NOT real. It won't heal your dna. And it's not relaxing.)
oh ok jeez, well i like it…sry if i offended you somehow

it really isnt that big a deal

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he/him

also plays 5 instruments…TOO MUCH PRESSURE

MUSIC AND SOUND FX ARE MY SPECIALTY: FEEL FREE TO MESSAGE ME FOR ANY (reasonable) REQUESTS!
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ForeverBoundless wrote:

Deetwo_ wrote:

(#17)

ForeverBoundless wrote:

Hey, have you ever heard of 432 hz music? It's great…look it up. So much more relaxing than regular 440 hz tuning
I hate you so much

(For context… The 432Hz conspiracy is NOT real. It won't heal your dna. And it's not relaxing.)
oh ok jeez, well i like it…sry if i offended you somehow

it really isnt that big a deal
it really is a big deal us microtonalists consider the 432Hz conspiracy as our mortal enemy because it is a very big misinformation puddle which:
  • portrays alternate tunings as just modifying where your A note is
  • creates panic, which is used by people to sell shammy and scammy products (similar to the guy who said vaccines cause autism)
  • overshadows what alternate tunings can really be and do
  • can create a stigma against alternate tunings for those who know that the conspiracy is fake
i have nothing against you but i have everything against the 432Hz conspiracy

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Deetwo_ wrote:

(#19)

ForeverBoundless wrote:

Deetwo_ wrote:

(#17)

ForeverBoundless wrote:

Hey, have you ever heard of 432 hz music? It's great…look it up. So much more relaxing than regular 440 hz tuning
I hate you so much

(For context… The 432Hz conspiracy is NOT real. It won't heal your dna. And it's not relaxing.)
oh ok jeez, well i like it…sry if i offended you somehow

it really isnt that big a deal
it really is a big deal us microtonalists consider the 432Hz conspiracy as our mortal enemy because it is a very big misinformation puddle which:
  • portrays alternate tunings as just modifying where your A note is
  • creates panic, which is used by people to sell shammy and scammy products (similar to the guy who said vaccines cause autism)
  • overshadows what alternate tunings can really be and do
  • can create a stigma against alternate tunings for those who know that the conspiracy is fake
i have nothing against you but i have everything against the 432Hz conspiracy
actually yah thats true…my bad. i wont talk about it again

Last edited by ForeverBoundless (May 18, 2023 17:27:50)


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13-y/o boy who wants to be game developer but needs some serious inspiration to get past the first script

he/him

also plays 5 instruments…TOO MUCH PRESSURE

MUSIC AND SOUND FX ARE MY SPECIALTY: FEEL FREE TO MESSAGE ME FOR ANY (reasonable) REQUESTS!
/small
(especially jazz, blues, funk, and simple electronic)


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