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theonlygusti
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bbCode in Comments?

Sigton wrote:

theonlygusti wrote:

and it should also be markdown in the forums.
Meh, I quite like BBCode in the forums.
That surprises me. Do you have any particular reasons for holding this opinion? I happen to prefer markdown because (for me at least) it's faster and more natural to type, and the plain text of a post tends to visually represent what the rendered output will look like.

I can think of a couple reasons for preferring BBCode though, e.g. it's more similar to HTML and perhaps easier to learn. Why do you prefer it though?

Sigton
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bbCode in Comments?

theonlygusti wrote:

That surprises me. Do you have any particular reasons for holding this opinion? I happen to prefer markdown because (for me at least) it's faster and more natural to type, and the plain text of a post tends to visually represent what the rendered output will look like.

I can think of a couple reasons for preferring BBCode though, e.g. it's more similar to HTML and perhaps easier to learn. Why do you prefer it though?
I suppose a lot of it is to do with what I'm used to. It is nice and easy to learn, and takes a lot less memory than markdown. It's easy to tell what each tags will to, since they have descriptive names.

Sigton


Sigton
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bbCode in Comments?

The4thPixel wrote:

Hi there, please don't quote me unless you have something to add to the discussion, as I find it disrespectful and unconstructive.
I agree that it isn't constructive, but disrespectful? You find it disrespectful that someone agrees with you. To be honest that's a bit absurd.

Sigton


P-Code
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bbCode in Comments?

Austinato wrote:

P-Code wrote:

We definitely need this! The formatting for bolding, italicizing, and underlining in comments should work the same way like it does in the forums (like using [b][/b] for bold, etc.).
EDIT: What I meant to say is, we should be able to use BBCode for bolding, italicizing, and underlining in comments.

Oh wow, three years later is a huge bump
Not to be offensive or anything, but there is still a large amount of people who don't understand how BBCode works, and adding it to another large part of the site will probably throw a lot of people off.
That's why we have those buttons above the textbox on the forums.

What will also throw people off is why comments use markdown and the forums use BBCode, if this suggestion was implemented. It would be better to be consistent across the whole site with formatting.

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Sigton
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bbCode in Comments?

P-Code wrote:

What will also throw people off is why comments use markdown and the forums use BBCode, if this suggestion was implemented. It would be better to be consistent across the whole site with formatting.
Not really. Comments use different emoji syntax than the forums and the world keeps turning.

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theonlygusti
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bbCode in Comments?

P-Code wrote:

What will also throw people off is why comments use markdown and the forums use BBCode, if this suggestion was implemented. It would be better to be consistent across the whole site with formatting.
Markdown everywhere!

P-Code
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bbCode in Comments?

Sigton wrote:

P-Code wrote:

What will also throw people off is why comments use markdown and the forums use BBCode, if this suggestion was implemented. It would be better to be consistent across the whole site with formatting.
Not really. Comments use different emoji syntax than the forums and the world keeps turning.

Sigton
So you're saying we can make a waffle emoji in the forums and comments? Or a emoji? The comments and forums use completely different emojis , but two different ways to italicize text in two different places on the same website would get confusing. I'm in favor of using markdown for both, or BBCode for both (or some other formatting that I don't know of).

Or we just add all the emojis everywhere.

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Sigton
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bbCode in Comments?

P-Code wrote:

So you're saying we can make a waffle emoji in the forums and comments? Or a emoji? The comments and forums use completely different emojis , but two different ways to italicize text in two different places on the same website would get confusing. I'm in favor of using markdown for both, or BBCode for both (or some other formatting that I don't know of).

Or we just add all the emojis everywhere.
You're just furthering my point; they're different syntax's. _commentemoji_ and :forumemoji:
So I'm sure having [b]bold[/b] and **bold** wouldn't be much of a problem.

Sigton


The4thPixel
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bbCode in Comments?

Sigton wrote:

The4thPixel wrote:

Hi there, please don't quote me unless you have something to add to the discussion, as I find it disrespectful and unconstructive.
I agree that it isn't constructive, but disrespectful? You find it disrespectful that someone agrees with you. To be honest that's a bit absurd.

Sigton
I'm finding it disrespectful because they're copying off of my posts without adding any of their own opinions.
TheMonsterOfTheDeep
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bbCode in Comments?

The4thPixel wrote:

Sigton wrote:

The4thPixel wrote:

Hi there, please don't quote me unless you have something to add to the discussion, as I find it disrespectful and unconstructive.
I agree that it isn't constructive, but disrespectful? You find it disrespectful that someone agrees with you. To be honest that's a bit absurd.

Sigton
I'm finding it disrespectful because they're copying off of my posts without adding any of their own opinions.
unconstructive =/= disrespectful, but that's a discussion for another time

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Sigton
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bbCode in Comments?

The4thPixel wrote:

I'm finding it disrespectful because they're copying off of my posts without adding any of their own opinions.
They're just sharing your opinions. It's not as if they're trying to steal your posts…

Sigton


Austinato
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bbCode in Comments?

^ As TheMonsterOfTheDeep said, let's not get too much into that conversation, and if you want to continue it, probably not here?



P-Code wrote:

That's why we have those buttons above the textbox on the forums.

What will also throw people off is why comments use markdown and the forums use BBCode, if this suggestion was implemented. It would be better to be consistent across the whole site with formatting.
My idea of a simpler markdown would be like word processor layout (i.e. Microsoft Word.) Those buttons saying b, i, and u would be the only real complicated things. The tags would not appear in the comments in the form of **wikipedia-like layout** or /b\this method/b\.

Other than having a simpler word processor-like layout for comments, there are two other possibilities:
  • Equal Markdown - Both the forums and comments could use a simpler markdown, to prevent the level of confusion you mentioned in your post, and to make the website more friendly. I would like to maintain the current BBCode format that we have now, however *cough cough* perhaps simplicity in the list tags?
  • No Markdown/Formatting - I could contradict my support for this suggestion and simply say we don't need markdown/additional formatting in comments. I don't think the three possibilities (BBCode, simpler markdown with difference to the forums, or simpler markdown with no difference with the forums) would be reasonable.

Hopefully this post wasn't read as rude, and if it was, please let me know. I also find the “list” tags in BBCode a bit annoying in terms of spacing.

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dave4681
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bbCode in Comments?


As for the suggestion itself, I like the idea, but there should be more things than just what you mentioned. Like:
1)Strikethrough
2)Text size (Big and Small)
3)Emojis (but only so spam is minimum)

Last edited by dave4681 (Jan. 15, 2017 18:52:50)

Austinato
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bbCode in Comments?

dave4681 wrote:

What, I say WHAT, did new scratchers DO, to ANYONE, that NO-ONE trusts them, and EVERYONE wants to take features away from them, for completely NO reason?!!! It gets me triggered every time I see this type of thing happening! Please guys, you can actually do better than this!
It's pretty common for sites outside of Scratch to experience bots/dedicated spammers who create accounts, typically at the most simple rank (New Scratchers in this case) that just spam, and if their account is deleted, it isn't bad and they could create another and immediately start doing it again.

Being upgraded to the Scratcher rank would mean that they are partially trusted to an extent where they have proved that they aren't spammers/bots.

Please also be a little bit more kinder in your posts, and not use as much CAPS (it seems like you're partially screaming and it isn't 100% mature.)

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dave4681
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bbCode in Comments?

Austinato wrote:

dave4681 wrote:

What, I say WHAT, did new scratchers DO, to ANYONE, that NO-ONE trusts them, and EVERYONE wants to take features away from them, for completely NO reason?!!! It gets me triggered every time I see this type of thing happening! Please guys, you can actually do better than this!
It's pretty common for sites outside of Scratch to experience bots/dedicated spammers who create accounts, typically at the most simple rank (New Scratchers in this case) that just spam, and if their account is deleted, it isn't bad and they could create another and immediately start doing it again.

Being upgraded to the Scratcher rank would mean that they are partially trusted to an extent where they have proved that they aren't spammers/bots.

Please also be a little bit more kinder in your posts, and not use as much CAPS (it seems like you're partially screaming and it isn't 100% mature.)
Okay, I'll delete that part.
But caps doesn't instantly mean shouting or screaming, it's this thing called effect

Last edited by dave4681 (Jan. 15, 2017 18:55:48)

Austinato
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bbCode in Comments?

dave4681 wrote:

Okay, I'll delete that part.
But caps doesn't instantly mean shouting or screaming, it's this thing called effect
You could achieve the same thing with boldening, italicizing, underlining, and other methods.

Anyways, back on topic.

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P-Code
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bbCode in Comments?

Sigton wrote:

You're just furthering my point; they're different syntax's. _commentemoji_ and :forumemoji:
So I'm sure having [b]bold[/b] and **bold** wouldn't be much of a problem.

Sigton

I'm (mostly) convinced now. I hadn't considered emoji syntax before you brought it up, so I just thought it would be better to use the same formatting for comments and forums to be a bit more consistent. But I do agree that just because the comments use one formatting and the forums use another doesn't mean it's the end of the universe as we know it, if this suggestion was implemented. I'm fine with either markdown or BBCode now.

Austinato wrote:

My idea of a simpler markdown would be like word processor layout (i.e. Microsoft Word.) Those buttons saying b, i, and u would be the only real complicated things. The tags would not appear in the comments in the form of **wikipedia-like layout** or /b\this method/b\.

I like your idea of a simpler markdown - I don't think adding three buttons will cause a lot of confusion.

Equal Markdown - Both the forums and comments could use a simpler markdown, to prevent the level of confusion you mentioned in your post, and to make the website more friendly. I would like to maintain the current BBCode format that we have now, however *cough cough* perhaps simplicity in the list tags?

Yes, we definitely need more simplicity in the list tags, even though this is a bit off-topic.

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dvargasews
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bbCode in Comments?

Isn't there another suggestion about using forum markup in comments?

Please read my signature! It might explain some lingo that I used in my post or comment. However, not all of it shows, so you have to highlight the entire bottom of the post, from “Please read my signature!” to where it says report, and copy and paste in into a new sheet or tab or whatever.
I can't decide my signature between:
1. I'm a grammar stickler, and my pet peeve is when people use good as an adverb.
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5. One should make his/her signature text small; that way (s)he can cram more text into the signature.
6. New [scratchblocks] idea each week! (Thanks to Bright-Idea (Read her signature.) for inspiration/the general idea.) Here's the archive:
Note: I stopped this because of signature character limits.
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stickfiregames
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bbCode in Comments?

dvargasews wrote:

Isn't there another suggestion about using forum markup in comments?
I think I saw one once, but over a year ago so it might be hard to find.
Here and here among others. This is the longest topic about it, but the first one I linked is long enough that it could be merged with this.

Last edited by stickfiregames (Jan. 17, 2017 02:05:17)











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WaffleChurro
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bbCode in Comments?

Support, I think we need it in more than just the comments though, project instructions would be nice

Also, block it for New Scratchers to stop the spamming

Lets ban Minimods together.

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