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NickyNouse
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Scratch 3.0

NitroCipher wrote:

I think they should make it so it saves your block palette colors to your user profile instead of having to re-apply it every time you open the editor like in 2.0. This also should apply for setting the side that the stage appears on. (assuming they add an option to switch the side)
I don't know if they're planning on making a settings panel where you can customize block colors in Scratch 3.0, but now that it's in HTML5 you can style it with CSS via a userscript or userstyle.
Sheep_maker
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Scratch 3.0

PullJosh wrote:

Ceo_ wrote:

I noticed that the scene was at the right, but personally I prefer this at the left. Does anyone know if there will be an option to change it ?

Sorry if my English is bad, I'm French so I don't speak English usually…
I know I've mentioned this somewhere before, but I'll say it again:

For users who speak languages which are read from left to right, it seems only logical to have the stage on the right. When building a program, you begin with the block palette, place the blocks, and then see the resulting project. This matches the left-to-right flow of the screen in Scratch 3.0 (and 1.x). With a massive portion of the Scratch community speaking English or another left-to-right language, it seems to me that placing the stage on the right side is very nearly an objectively better decision.

That being said, I might just be getting old and cranky. A 1.4-like layout feels much more homely than the 2.0 style.
Would/should right-to-left languages have the stage on the left and blocks on the right?

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Sheep_maker wrote:

PullJosh wrote:

Ceo_ wrote:

I noticed that the scene was at the right, but personally I prefer this at the left. Does anyone know if there will be an option to change it ?

Sorry if my English is bad, I'm French so I don't speak English usually…
I know I've mentioned this somewhere before, but I'll say it again:

For users who speak languages which are read from left to right, it seems only logical to have the stage on the right. When building a program, you begin with the block palette, place the blocks, and then see the resulting project. This matches the left-to-right flow of the screen in Scratch 3.0 (and 1.x). With a massive portion of the Scratch community speaking English or another left-to-right language, it seems to me that placing the stage on the right side is very nearly an objectively better decision.

That being said, I might just be getting old and cranky. A 1.4-like layout feels much more homely than the 2.0 style.
Would/should right-to-left languages have the stage on the left and blocks on the right?
Yes and IIRC that's how Blockly (what Scratch 3 is based on) does it.

EDIT: IIRC might fit better than AFAIK

Last edited by -Io- (Feb. 17, 2017 01:32:37)


jokebookservice1
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Scratch 3.0

I don't think that is really beneficial, because Scratch is written up-to-down. In the horizontal view, if the direction was reversed then it might make a bit more sense imo.
-Io-
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jokebookservice1 wrote:

I don't think that is really beneficial, because Scratch is written up-to-down. In the horizontal view, if the direction was reversed then it might make a bit more sense imo.
I don't really care. Blockly does criticize the stage to the right and the workspace in the middle problem, though, saying that because the workspace grows with the screen, it pushes the block palette and the stage too far, separating the tools you regularly use, and that the stage should be the first thing you see.

thisandagain
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PullJosh wrote:

Ceo_ wrote:

I noticed that the scene was at the right, but personally I prefer this at the left. Does anyone know if there will be an option to change it ?

Sorry if my English is bad, I'm French so I don't speak English usually…
I know I've mentioned this somewhere before, but I'll say it again:

For users who speak languages which are read from left to right, it seems only logical to have the stage on the right. When building a program, you begin with the block palette, place the blocks, and then see the resulting project. This matches the left-to-right flow of the screen in Scratch 3.0 (and 1.x). With a massive portion of the Scratch community speaking English or another left-to-right language, it seems to me that placing the stage on the right side is very nearly an objectively better decision.

Yup! I'm not sure how objective it is, but that is part of our theory as well. For languages which read right-to-left (RTL) we are considering flipping the entire interface. In any case, we are going to test this thoroughly before committing to a direction.
PullJosh
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thisandagain wrote:

PullJosh wrote:

I know I've mentioned this somewhere before, but I'll say it again:

For users who speak languages which are read from left to right, it seems only logical to have the stage on the right. When building a program, you begin with the block palette, place the blocks, and then see the resulting project. This matches the left-to-right flow of the screen in Scratch 3.0 (and 1.x). With a massive portion of the Scratch community speaking English or another left-to-right language, it seems to me that placing the stage on the right side is very nearly an objectively better decision.

Yup! I'm not sure how objective it is, but that is part of our theory as well. For languages which read right-to-left (RTL) we are considering flipping the entire interface. In any case, we are going to test this thoroughly before committing to a direction.
Awesome. I suppose “objective” was probably the wrong word to use, but I'm glad you're with me on the idea. Flipping the layout on a language change is an interesting idea. The best bet in making that decision is probably just through trial and error.
titanscratch
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DeleteThisAcount wrote:

Sigton wrote:

thisandagain wrote:

Ceo_ wrote:

I noticed that the scene was at the right, but personally I prefer this at the left. Does anyone know if there will be an option to change it ?

Sorry if my English is bad, I'm French so I don't speak English usually…

We are testing out having the stage to the right but if it doesn't test well we will change it back. There are some pretty big advantages to it being shown on the right though and want to explore both options.
It will take a while to get used to it being on the right though

Sigton
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QuantumSingularity wrote:

Ceo_ wrote:

Sigton wrote:

thisandagain wrote:

Ceo_ wrote:

I noticed that the scene was at the right, but personally I prefer this at the left. Does anyone know if there will be an option to change it ?

Sorry if my English is bad, I'm French so I don't speak English usually…

We are testing out having the stage to the right but if it doesn't test well we will change it back. There are some pretty big advantages to it being shown on the right though and want to explore both options.
It will take a while to get used to it being on the right though

Sigton
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In the meanwhile, I love the way scratch 3.0 is shaping up! Even though I hated scratch 1.4, I like how it looks so far.

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SirShadow
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I have very strong feelings of disdain for:

- The rounded stage
-The lack of contrast

Seriously, unless I concentrate the whole screen is pretty much just one color (Okay, I'm exaggerating only a little. Still hurting my eyes, though), and I don't like the rounded corners on the stage for an obvious reason.

Wow, this guy is 17 and still hasn't put out a cool project yet? Guess he's just a washed up old man, eh?
I'm so much more skilled now that looking back on my projects fills me with distorted amusement. Tragic, but still funny.
tcman2006
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SirShadow wrote:

I have very strong feelings of disdain for:

- The rounded stage
-The lack of contrast

Seriously, unless I concentrate the whole screen is pretty much just one color (Okay, I'm exaggerating only a little. Still hurting my eyes, though), and I don't like the rounded corners on the stage for an obvious reason.
I totally get what you mean by that. I like to move sprites to see their shadow, and then put it down and be like - CONTRAST I NEED YOU- get my memo?
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NickyNouse
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tcman2006 wrote:

SirShadow wrote:

I have very strong feelings of disdain for:

- The rounded stage
-The lack of contrast

Seriously, unless I concentrate the whole screen is pretty much just one color (Okay, I'm exaggerating only a little. Still hurting my eyes, though), and I don't like the rounded corners on the stage for an obvious reason.
I totally get what you mean by that. I like to move sprites to see their shadow, and then put it down and be like - CONTRAST I NEED YOU- get my memo?
I think they were talking about in the gui
Austinato
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jromagnoli wrote:

In the meanwhile, I love the way scratch 3.0 is shaping up! Even though I hated scratch 1.4, I like how it looks so far.
I don't use (nor were around for) Scratch 1.4, but I don't like the design - I still respect it, knowing it's an older version and all, but I still didn't like the design of Scratch 1.4.


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scratchisthebest
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Austinato wrote:

jromagnoli wrote:

In the meanwhile, I love the way scratch 3.0 is shaping up! Even though I hated scratch 1.4, I like how it looks so far.
I don't use (nor were around for) Scratch 1.4, but I don't like the design - I still respect it, knowing it's an older version and all, but I still didn't like the design of Scratch 1.4.
Yeah, today it looks dated, especially the color and texture choices. Lots of rounded corners, pinstripes, and drop shadow.

Looking past that, though, I think the layout is pretty nice.

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tcman2006
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NickyNouse wrote:

tcman2006 wrote:

SirShadow wrote:

I have very strong feelings of disdain for:

- The rounded stage
-The lack of contrast

Seriously, unless I concentrate the whole screen is pretty much just one color (Okay, I'm exaggerating only a little. Still hurting my eyes, though), and I don't like the rounded corners on the stage for an obvious reason.
I totally get what you mean by that. I like to move sprites to see their shadow, and then put it down and be like - CONTRAST I NEED YOU- get my memo?
I think they were talking about in the gui
anyway…
IgDegOo
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here is my guide how to relax using the new features in scratch 3
  1. put this script in the scratch cat

  2. put on your headphones
  3. set your computer's volume to 100%
  4. click the green flag
  5. enjoy

DeleteThisAcount
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IgDegOo wrote:

here is my guide how to relax using the new features in scratch 3
  1. put this script in the scratch cat

  2. put on your headphones
  3. set your computer's volume to 100%
  4. click the green flag
  5. enjoy

I think that's How to break your over priced beat headphones



IgDegOo
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DeleteThisAcount wrote:

IgDegOo wrote:

here is my guide how to relax using the new features in scratch 3
  1. put this script in the scratch cat

  2. put on your headphones
  3. set your computer's volume to 100%
  4. click the green flag
  5. enjoy

I think that's How to break your over priced beat headphones
by “break your over priced beat headphones” do you mean “burst your eardrums”?

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