AndPherbCodes wrote:

To double check:
Is this just saying choosing for your projects to be off the front page and search?

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

Community usage.
Not general usage.

In other words, to clear your confusion of my points, Slow+unreliable = Few people use it = Few people (also including the few that view remix pages) affected = NFE toggle doesnt affect project visibility that much

Haycat2009 wrote:

Iloveroblox003 wrote:

In other words, to clear your confusion of my points, Slow+unreliable = Few people use it = Few people (also including the few that view remix pages) affected = NFE toggle doesnt affect project visibility that much

While this is largely true, there is still a difference. Did you read my earlier point? Some want every grain of control they have even if it doesnt do much, and its okay.

banana439monkey wrote:

i don't entirely agree with self-FEing a self-NFE'd project, at least without intervention from the ST

Banana

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

Haycat2009 wrote:

Iloveroblox003 wrote:

In other words, to clear your confusion of my points, Slow+unreliable = Few people use it = Few people (also including the few that view remix pages) affected = NFE toggle doesnt affect project visibility that much

While this is largely true, there is still a difference. Did you read my earlier point? Some want every grain of control they have even if it doesnt do much, and its okay.

I never said there wasnt a difference..

Just because I say the difference is little doesnt mean I say that it resides with me is nonexistent

banana439monkey wrote:

i don't entirely agree with self-FEing a self-NFE'd project, at least without intervention from the ST

Banana

Haycat2009 wrote:

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

Haycat2009 wrote:

While this is largely true, there is still a difference. Did you read my earlier point? Some want every grain of control they have even if it doesnt do much, and its okay.

I never said there wasnt a difference..

Just because I say the difference is little doesnt mean I say that it resides with me is nonexistent

Finally you get it.

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

Haycat2009 wrote:

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

Haycat2009 wrote:

While this is largely true, there is still a difference. Did you read my earlier point? Some want every grain of control they have even if it doesnt do much, and its okay.

I never said there wasnt a difference..

Just because I say the difference is little doesnt mean I say that it resides with me is nonexistent

Finally you get it.

you are emphasizing a point unrelated to countering any of my points.

You state and support my * points, but just add a bit more context to them (and intend it to be a counter).

Ylemations wrote:

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

Haycat2009 wrote:

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

snip

Finally you get it.

you are emphasizing a point unrelated to countering any of my points.

You state and support my * points, but just add a bit more context to them (and intend it to be a counter).

What is the point of your point? You just say it changes very little because few people will use it. But for the people who use it, it might be kinda nice. Even if it changes little, it can still be a good feature.

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

(and I shall remind everyone, I still inhabit neutral ground in this suggestion)

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

My claim is that NFE and FE have little difference. This claim does not go against nor with the suggestion, and t'was simply meant as a side note for looping back to the purpose of this: a quality of life suggestion.

Ylemations wrote:

What is the point of your point? You just say it changes very little because few people will use it. But for the people who use it, it might be kinda nice. Even if it changes little, it can still be a good feature.

AndPherbCodes wrote:

banana439monkey wrote:

i don't entirely agree with self-FEing a self-NFE'd project, at least without intervention from the ST

Banana

I've made this extra suggestion, which is make it so that if someone NFEs their project, it gets flagged for review.

Haycat2009 wrote:

So @IloveRoblox003, out of curiosity, why did we argue about this or make this point? Its a fact, and I refuse to deny it. But it does nothing to counter the suggestion, so it can be weaponised against itself.

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

Haycat2009 wrote:

So @IloveRoblox003, out of curiosity, why did we argue about this or make this point? Its a fact, and I refuse to deny it. But it does nothing to counter the suggestion, so it can be weaponised against itself.

I never meant for it to counter the suggestion.
T'was instead to elaborate on what the suggestion is.


I do think there hath been some overlooking of the fact that..

Allies and enemies are not the only sides of a war. There are also the neutral (and the random pedestrians and the ones that are still deciding a side and the observers and the ones against the war itself but uh anyways yea there's the neutral).

Haycat2009 wrote:

(#54)

ILuvDogs-5335 wrote:

How it works.
The Drop down
Option 1: Let the admin decide
Option 2: For Everyone
Option 3: Not For Everyone

Out of curiosity, could this particular method be abused so you could set an obviously NFE project as “for everyone”? My suggestion allows the admin to override “For Everyone” but not “Not For Everyone”. Yours doesnt.

ChristianScratcher1 wrote:

What difference does this make? afaik NFE only hides projects from search and remix pages. Considering the state search is in rn, I doubt that most people always use search. And even with search, it mostly shows the more popular of the projects unless you typed the full project title. As for me, 99% of the projects I view are not from search, I usually see things from What's happening, studios, people's profiles, etc and I'm sure there are many who do the same.

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

the indexer works, but its so unreliable that most people (who know about these things) dont really rely on it. Im not talking about the NFE ‘not working’ or something, im talking about how clumsy the search is, and that not many people use it for exploring projects.

You even support what I say in thy posts. The indexer works, but not enough to be something reliable or popular to use.

And therefore, the difference between NFE and FE is little. hath you forgotten my claim (although opinions are worthless, they can provide clarity when used right)?

I admit there isnt much of a difference, but THERE STILL IS. Im sure the supporters want the element of choice to NOT have searchable projects - so to clarify, NFE projects cannot show up on the front page (privacy! - includes Whats happening), the Explore page (Which im sure at least one of you uses), remix trees and searches. Im sure I dont want my projects to appear in the explore page and I should be able to decide, as you can too.

As for @IloveRoblox003, while I have supported some of your points, this should not be mistaken for supporting every argument you make. NFE and FE have no impact until the indexer arrives (Its slow, not broken nor nonexistent), but once it does, well…

ILuvDogs-5335 wrote:

It can be changed after uhh, likely three days?

Haycat2009 wrote:

(#74)

ILuvDogs-5335 wrote:

It can be changed after uhh, likely three days?

Why a delay?

ILuvDogs-5335 wrote:

Haycat2009 wrote:

(#74)

ILuvDogs-5335 wrote:

It can be changed after uhh, likely three days?

Why a delay?

Just to be safe.

Haycat2009 wrote:

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

My claim is that NFE and FE have little difference. This claim does not go against nor with the suggestion, and t'was simply meant as a side note for looping back to the purpose of this: a quality of life suggestion.

Ylemations wrote:

What is the point of your point? You just say it changes very little because few people will use it. But for the people who use it, it might be kinda nice. Even if it changes little, it can still be a good feature.

So @IloveRoblox003, out of curiosity, why did we argue about this or make this point? Its a fact, and I refuse to deny it. But it does nothing to counter the suggestion, so it can be weaponised against itself.

AndPherbCodes wrote:

banana439monkey wrote:

i don't entirely agree with self-FEing a self-NFE'd project, at least without intervention from the ST

Banana

I've made this extra suggestion, which is make it so that if someone NFEs their project, it gets flagged for review.

And what is ST going to do after they review? They cant set it as FE as that would defeat the point of this suggestion.

AndPherbCodes wrote:

They don't set it to FE, it's so that if the person is trying to make a project that violates guidelines, ST immediately catches it.

Haycat2009 wrote:

Question for non supporters: Could you explain exactly why?