Why Does (Message) Crash Scratch?

kirbers

when I start as a clone
create clone of [ v]
delete this clone

Last edited by kirbers (May 6, 2024 18:12:33)

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What do you mean? What message?
Nevermind, misread OP. See below post.

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BigNate469 wrote:
What do you mean? What message?

They are asking why does

when I start as a clone
create clone of [ v]
delete this clone

Crash Scratch
To OP: That crashes Scratch because the blocks causes the Scratch project to loop infinitely as the blocks are making Scratch rapidly start, create, and delete clones, resulting in Scratch not being able to finish the script, causing the project to freeze and crash Scratch

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Basically, to write to memory, it is a bit quicker than slating memory to be cleared. When making a clone, it allocates this to memory that the browser has already asked the operating system to use, which is fine. However, to delete a clone, it tells the browser “Hey, can you remove this information from RAM?”
In this, the browser passes this onto the OS. However, the OS can’t keep up with this. So, instead, it takes all that RAM from the browser, which it then clears and returns. This, in turn, crashes the page.

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Codeingit wrote:
BigNate469 wrote:
What do you mean? What message?
They are asking why does
when I start as a clone
create clone of [ v]
delete this clone
Crash Scratch
To OP: That crashes Scratch because the blocks causes the Scratch project to loop infinitely as the blocks are making Scratch rapidly start, create, and delete clones, resulting in Scratch not being able to finish the script, causing the project to freeze and crash Scratch

uhh, I just tried that in a Scratch project, and it didn't crash for me

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_kethan_110511_ wrote:
Codeingit wrote:
BigNate469 wrote:
What do you mean? What message?
They are asking why does
when I start as a clone
create clone of [ v]
delete this clone
Crash Scratch
To OP: That crashes Scratch because the blocks causes the Scratch project to loop infinitely as the blocks are making Scratch rapidly start, create, and delete clones, resulting in Scratch not being able to finish the script, causing the project to freeze and crash Scratch
uhh, I just tried that in a Scratch project, and it didn't crash for me

Good for you. You have a fast computer and/or browser and/or RAM.

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To bypass, you can use this script:

when I start as a clone
create clone of [Myself v]
wait (0) secs
delete this clone

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Create-Scratch101 wrote:
To bypass, you can use this script:
when I start as a clone
create clone of [Myself v]
wait (0) secs
delete this clone

That's because that waits 1/30th of a second, since the minimum framerate for Scratch is 30fps, and the wait block forces a screen refresh

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_kethan_110511_ wrote:
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uhh, I just tried that in a Scratch project, and it didn't crash for me

It doesn't crash Scratch (and by that I mean it doesn't bring up the blue crash screen), it just freezes it.

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_kethan_110511_ wrote:
uhh, I just tried that in a Scratch project, and it didn't crash for me

Did you also include this script?

when green flag clicked
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donotforgetmycode wrote:
_kethan_110511_ wrote:
uhh, I just tried that in a Scratch project, and it didn't crash for me
Did you also include this script?
when green flag clicked
create clone of [myself v]

He did, he was just coding in the backdrop.

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plantskym2 wrote:
He did, he was just coding in the backdrop.

how do you know that?

This text under the grey line is my signature. It's not part of my post, but it automatically shows up under all of my posts.

I recommend reading jvvg and Sliverus's essays.

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Stuff at the bottom of my signature:

for \({
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Would you recommend a confirmation dialog box on that action?
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