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ScratchDiogoh
Scratcher
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

Hello everyone! I wanted the Month of Pride
be Removed because it is not for everyone
Some are against (I am also in Scratch)
and therefore should be Removed
But one thing, It Infested not only Some but also
the ST
This also affected the First Page

Last edited by ScratchDiogoh (June 19, 2018 19:44:35)

TheAdriCoolManDude
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

But the real question is, “What is the Month of Pride?”.
ScratchDiogoh
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

But the real question is, “What is the Month of Pride?”.
In my words, it's one thing in June
which affects the Main Site
leapinleopardstar
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

But the real question is, “What is the Month of Pride?”.
LGBT pride month. I don't participate in it.
Wahsp
Scratcher
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

Community Guidelines wrote:

Scratch welcomes people of all ages, races, ethnicities, religions, abilities, sexual orientations, and gender identities.
Whether you agree with it or not, it’s not really going anywhere
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

ScratchDiogoh wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

But the real question is, “What is the Month of Pride?”.
In my words, it's one thing in June
which affects the Main Site
Oh. Well, it is a nice thing to do. But not everyone celebrates, so I do not know.
ScratchDiogoh
Scratcher
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

Wahsp wrote:

Community Guidelines wrote:

Scratch welcomes people of all ages, races, ethnicities, religions, abilities, sexual orientations, and gender identities.
Whether you agree with it or not, it’s not really going anywhere
I agree, but some people think
it's illegal
LionHeart70
Scratcher
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

No support. As said in the CGs, Scratch welcomes people of all sexual orientations and gender identities, so whether you agree with LGBT+ or not, they're not changing it.
Also, it really helps to know that there's a site that supports your sexual orientations and gender identities, and many users here are LGBT+ (including me, for instance) and might have been bullied on other sites (or real life) for being LGBT+.
Sheep_maker
Scratcher
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

I believe this has been suggested before and received a response from the ST.

(see here for the response)

The topic was closed, and in response people started creating a bunch of topics protesting their decision, which the ST closed (you can see the cluster of closed topics between pages 131 and 134 at the time of posting; interestingly, right after the spree ended they removed the Discuss link).

EDIT: removed ceebee quote so it isn't included when people quote this post

Last edited by Sheep_maker (June 19, 2018 21:12:17)

ScratchDiogoh
Scratcher
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

Sheep_maker wrote:

I believe this has been suggested before and received a response from the ST.

ceebee wrote:

Thanks for bringing this up. If we understand correctly, the issue you’re raising is that it’s hard to be a Scratcher and have members of the Scratch Team share content which may not match your own opinions or beliefs. We understand this concern, and will continue to discuss it as a team.

We think it’s important to explain why we chose to feature a project supporting Pride Month, and why Scratch Team members sometimes share projects or icons related to LGBTQ+ issues. The Community Guidelines say, “Scratch welcomes people of all ages, races, ethnicities, religions, sexual orientations, and gender identities.” We believe Scratch should be a space for people to express themselves and share what is important to their lives such as race, gender, religion, etc. We feel respectful comments, projects, and studios about LGBTQ+ are appropriate for the Scratch website. When someone shares their identity, or celebrates their friend’s identity, we want to support that. When someone shares something that is against another person’s identity, we see that as unfriendly and unwelcoming. As members of the Scratch community, Scratch Team members create and share projects about topics important to us, and for some of us, that includes sharing LGBTQ-related projects. And we hope this will inspire other Scratchers to create content about topics that are important to their lives.

In regards to concerns about the recent feature of a “Pride Month” related project. We chose to feature this because it was a project related to a current event, Pride Month, which is important to many people on Scratch. Moreover, the project had a supportive message and expressed the desire of a group to be treated with the same dignity and respect as members of any other group - which we think is a cornerstone of the Scratch Community. The decision to feature a project about a current event is not unique. In fact, we often feature projects related to events that are important to many Scratchers. This includes holidays like Christmas, Easter, Lunar New Year, Hanukkah, and Ramadan and events like the beginning of school or Pi Day. We appreciate that Scratchers can remain respectful of the many diverse events and holidays celebrated on Scratch even when some events aren’t important to some individuals.

Thanks and I hope this clarifies your questions.

The topic was closed, and in response people started creating a bunch of topics protesting their decision, which the ST closed (you can see the cluster of closed topics between pages 131 and 134 at the time of posting; interestingly, right after the spree ended they removed the Discuss link).
It was that part of CG that caused it all
Sheep_maker
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

i quoted instead of editing

Last edited by Sheep_maker (June 19, 2018 21:11:18)

Wahsp
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

ScratchDiogoh wrote:

Sheep_maker wrote:

I believe this has been suggested before and received a response from the ST.

ceebee wrote:

snip snip
It was that part of CG that caused it all
I don’t think the guidelines caused anything, they exist so users can get a general idea of what they should or shouldn’t do
chexbox
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratch Get Rid of Pride

We can not completely remove it as that would make certain people unhappy. Instead I think that projects related to that should be marked as NFE.
Wahsp
Scratcher
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

chexbox wrote:

We can not completely remove it as that would make certain people unhappy. Instead I think that projects related to that should be marked as NFE.
While I agree for projects that contain things too mature Scratch, I don’t think all of them should be censored. That kinda goes against the whole accepting of it part
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

ScratchDiogoh wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

But the real question is, “What is the Month of Pride?”.
In my words, it's one thing in June
which affects the Main Site
Oh. Well, it is a nice thing to do. But not everyone celebrates, so I do not know.
Now, no support for the fact of the Community Guidelines.
chexbox
Scratcher
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

Wahsp-whoHasAGreatProfilePic wrote:

chexbox wrote:

We can not completely remove it as that would make certain people unhappy. Instead I think that projects related to that should be marked as NFE.
While I agree for projects that contain things too mature Scratch, I don’t think all of them should be censored. That kinda goes against the whole accepting of it part
Understanding the background of that organization, I kind of think that it is all too mature for scratch.

Last edited by chexbox (June 19, 2018 21:53:17)

Wahsp
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

chexbox wrote:

Wahsp-whoHasAGreatProfilePic wrote:

chexbox wrote:

We can not completely remove it as that would make certain people unhappy. Instead I think that projects related to that should be marked as NFE.
While I agree for projects that contain things too mature Scratch, I don’t think all of them should be censored. That kinda goes against the whole accepting of it part
Understanding the background of that organization, I kind of think that it is all too mature for scratch.
I mean if it goes too far into detail. Simply making an informative project (that again, doesn’t take things too far) is fine
hailstone-sequence
New Scratcher
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

This reminds me I need to change my avatar to support LGBT pride month. Thanks OP!
Sheep_maker
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

chexbox wrote:

We can not completely remove it as that would make certain people unhappy. Instead I think that projects related to that should be marked as NFE.

cheddargirl wrote:

Trying to achieve equality by keeping minorities hidden isn't going to work. It's just disrespectful of minority groups and the backwards of equality.
(src)
cheddargirl
Scratch Team
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Scratch Get Rid of Pride

Let's not drudge up a dead horse topic, let it be known that this is a rejected suggestion.

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