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_nix
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DaAndroid614 wrote:

“after forever”(which i'm assuming will be “after stop sign clicked”)
Why did you assume that? Obviously it will only run after forever passes

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ZZ9PluralZAlpha
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_nix wrote:

DaAndroid614 wrote:

“after forever”(which i'm assuming will be “after stop sign clicked”)
Why did you assume that? Obviously it will only run after forever passes
Which will only happen when the stop sign is clicked or the Earth gets swallowed by the sun in trillions of years.

Greenduck54
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ZZ9PluralZAlpha wrote:

_nix wrote:

DaAndroid614 wrote:

“after forever”(which i'm assuming will be “after stop sign clicked”)
Why did you assume that? Obviously it will only run after forever passes
Which will only happen when the stop sign is clicked or the Earth gets swallowed by the sun in *billions of years.
No no no… you've all got it wrong… “After Forever” will only run when the universe itself dies in trillions of years (AKA Forever)

Last edited by Greenduck54 (Oct. 18, 2017 20:11:51)


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Last edited by Greenduck54 (Jan. 1, 2020 00:00:00)
oh no, the joke is dead because that time is no longer in the future :I
Last edited by Greenduck54 (Apr. 20, 2069 00:00:00)
that's better
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NickyNouse
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Greenduck54 wrote:

ZZ9PluralZAlpha wrote:

_nix wrote:

DaAndroid614 wrote:

“after forever”(which i'm assuming will be “after stop sign clicked”)
Why did you assume that? Obviously it will only run after forever passes
Which will only happen when the stop sign is clicked or the Earth gets swallowed by the sun in *billions of years.
No no no… you've all got it wrong… “After Forever” will only run when the universe itself dies in trillions of years (AKA Forever)
Nonono you're all wrong, it only runs after September 25, 2015 which was the release date for an American indie drama film called Forever, which was directed by Tatia Pilieva and has 5.2/10 stars on IMDb
Charles12310
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NickyNouse wrote:

Greenduck54 wrote:

ZZ9PluralZAlpha wrote:

_nix wrote:

DaAndroid614 wrote:

“after forever”(which i'm assuming will be “after stop sign clicked”)
Why did you assume that? Obviously it will only run after forever passes
Which will only happen when the stop sign is clicked or the Earth gets swallowed by the sun in *billions of years.
No no no… you've all got it wrong… “After Forever” will only run when the universe itself dies in trillions of years (AKA Forever)
Nonono you're all wrong, it only runs after September 25, 2015 which was the release date for an American indie drama film called Forever, which was directed by Tatia Pilieva and has 5.2/10 stars on IMDb
Very funny.


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gridzbispudvetch
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Just tried it and I have 3 things to say.

1. Glitches and other errors. When you create a new costume for a sprite there is no way to edit it. The editing window is simply not there. There is clearly a space for it but it doesn't exist. I refuse to use premade, uneditable costumes. Also, in the “some blocks” folder (terrible name btw), not only is there a duplicate of letter _ of _, it doesn't even work. Letter 1 of text is not “e.” In addition, the “more blocks” tab seems to be gone now. Why?

2. Conceptual feedback. The pick 1 block makes no sense whatsoever. Does it mean pick the first one or randomly pick any one of them? Also, will it be expandable so you can use more than four? Speaking of which, as far as I can tell, every block in the some blocks tab aside from that one is totally useless. Why is the “some blocks” folder an extension rather than just in by default? I also tried adding it twice and now I have no idea how to remove the duplicate. Also, why did you flip the editing area? I liked it the way it was.

3. Suggestions. I think it would be really cool if there was a separate “definitions” tab. That way you can put all your “more blocks” definitions in there without cluttering up the sprite they're used on. We should also have a (string1) contains (string2)? block, a skip block and a spawn block (to skip through part of the script and start working again at the spawn block), a slow-motion mode where you press a button to go to the next step (excellent for debugging), and text global variables.

EDIT: just went back into scratch 3 and I realized you also seem to have removed lists. I assume this will be added as Scratch 3 is worked on.

EDIT 2: Please also add more control keys. I want to use shift, control, all of those things.

Last edited by gridzbispudvetch (Oct. 19, 2017 03:36:22)

Sheep_maker
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gridzbispudvetch wrote:

1. Glitches and other errors. When you create a new costume for a sprite there is no way to edit it. The editing window is simply not there. There is clearly a space for it but it doesn't exist. I refuse to use premade, uneditable costumes. Also, in the “some blocks” folder (terrible name btw), not only is there a duplicate of letter _ of _, it doesn't even work. Letter 1 of text is not “e.” In addition, the “more blocks” tab seems to be gone now. Why?
It's still being made, so not everything has been fully implemented yet, such as custom blocks. They're still working on the costume editor

The some blocks extension is an example extension showing off what extensions can do so far; its letter _ of _ block is 0-indexed because I'm assuming they directly used JavaScript for that block without subtracting one from the index

gridzbispudvetch wrote:

2. Conceptual feedback. The pick 1 block makes no sense whatsoever. Does it mean pick the first one or randomly pick any one of them? Also, will it be expandable so you can use more than four? Speaking of which, as far as I can tell, every block in the some blocks tab aside from that one is totally useless. Why is the “some blocks” folder an extension rather than just in by default? I also tried adding it twice and now I have no idea how to remove the duplicate. Also, why did you flip the editing area? I liked it the way it was.
The some blocks extension is an example extension showing off what extensions can do so far.

The way it was is the way it is in Scratch 3.0; the stage was on the right in 1.4.

gridzbispudvetch wrote:

3. Suggestions. I think it would be really cool if there was a separate “definitions” tab. That way you can put all your “more blocks” definitions in there without cluttering up the sprite they're used on. We should also have a (string1) contains (string2)? block, a skip block and a spawn block (to skip through part of the script and start working again at the spawn block), a slow-motion mode where you press a button to go to the next step (excellent for debugging), and text global variables.
There once was a _ contains _? block in the WIP version, but they removed it. The other suggestions belong here, though some already have their own topics:

gridzbispudvetch wrote:

EDIT: just went back into scratch 3 and I realized you also seem to have removed lists. I assume this will be added as Scratch 3 is worked on.

EDIT 2: Please also add more control keys. I want to use shift, control, all of those things.
Don't confuse “remove” and “hasn't implemented yet”; it's like your teacher marking a homework assignment late before it's due

Adding the control keys would make making Scratch touch-friendly more difficult; also not all keyboards have certain keys/they are named differently; Scratch projects can trick users into pressing keyboard shortcuts like command+Q or ctrl+shift+Q; that's a thing already; duplicate

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Charles12310
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Pen is now a Scratch extension:


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Greenduck54
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Charles12310 wrote:

Pen is now a Scratch extension:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I DON'T WANT TO SPEND AN EXTRA 20 SECONDS MAKNG PEN PROJECTS! Jk, pen IS the statistically least used category, so it makes sense.

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Last edited by Greenduck54 (Jan. 1, 2020 00:00:00)
oh no, the joke is dead because that time is no longer in the future :I
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that's better
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Sheep_maker
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Charles12310 wrote:

Pen is now a Scratch extension: http://i.cubeupload.com/G6gNPY.png
That has already been announced 2 pages ago

Sheep_maker wrote:

Pen extension (with pen transparency), extension thumbnails: https://ericrosenbaum.github.io/scratch-gui/extensions-oct2017/

Also supposedly projects that use the pen extension will automatically load the extension (src)

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MinecraftM153
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Greenduck54 wrote:

Charles12310 wrote:

Pen is now a Scratch extension:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I DON'T WANT TO SPEND AN EXTRA 20 SECONDS MAKNG PEN PROJECTS! Jk, pen IS the statistically least used category, so it makes sense.
Aaaaand what about the over 9000 projects that are 90% pen-powered..?

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MinecraftM153 wrote:

Greenduck54 wrote:

Charles12310 wrote:

Pen is now a Scratch extension:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I DON'T WANT TO SPEND AN EXTRA 20 SECONDS MAKNG PEN PROJECTS! Jk, pen IS the statistically least used category, so it makes sense.
Aaaaand what about the over 9000 projects that are 90% pen-powered..?
extenstions will load by them self



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Can we have a lambda/first class data extension too?


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walkcycle
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MinecraftM153 wrote:

Aaaaand what about the over 9000 projects that are 90% pen-powered..?

Sheep_maker wrote:

projects that use the pen extension will automatically load the extension (src)
walkcycle
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-stache- wrote:

Can we have a lambda/first class data extension too?
How would it work?
NickyNouse
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gridzbispudvetch wrote:

Also, why did you flip the editing area? I liked it the way it was.
Iirc they did some testing and found that this order is more intuitive for new users because in English you read left to right so blocks->scripts->stage makes sense (I don't know if they're planning on flipping the editor for rtl languages)

-stache- wrote:

Can we have a lambda/first class data extension too?
Extensions are (theoretically) gonna have pretty deep vm access so someone could probably do that yea
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MinecraftM153 wrote:

Aaaaand what about the over 9000 projects that are 90% pen-powered..?
I'm pretty sure they'll be converted to the extension blocks

Sheep_maker wrote:

Also supposedly projects that use the pen extension will automatically load the extension (src)
EDIT: reordering of stuff so it doesn't look like I'm replying to MinecraftM153 and me

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MinecraftM153 wrote:

Greenduck54 wrote:

Charles12310 wrote:

Pen is now a Scratch extension:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I DON'T WANT TO SPEND AN EXTRA 20 SECONDS MAKNG PEN PROJECTS! Jk, pen IS the statistically least used category, so it makes sense.
Aaaaand what about the over 9000 projects that are 90% pen-powered..?
*9000 out of 25,535,655

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oh no, the joke is dead because that time is no longer in the future :I
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that's better
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PullJosh
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NickyNouse wrote:

-stache- wrote:

Can we have a lambda/first class data extension too?
Extensions are (theoretically) gonna have pretty deep vm access so someone could probably do that yea
That's awesome! Scratch 2.0 extensions have always been pretty limited in what they can do (can't really interact with project itself at all), which made them pretty mediocre.

Thrilled to hear that 3.0 extensions will be more powerful. Can't wait!
290Scratcher
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On the topic of Scratch extensions…
Now that pen is an extension…
I CAN MAKE PEN MULTIPLE TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!

But seriously this should be fixed

EDIT: More proof.

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