Report projects that say "no remixing"?

geek62

The Scratch Wiki section on remixing ( https://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Remix ) says we should report projects that say “no remixing”.
Is that official? 'Coz there are zillions of those out there - it seems like all new Scratchers think they need to protect their projects from being stolen.

Last edited by geek62 (Feb. 9, 2017 02:10:13)

footsocktoe

geek62 wrote:
The Scratch Wiki section on remixing ( https://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Remix ) says we should report projects that say “no remixing”.
Is that official? 'Coz there are zillions of those out there - it seems like all new Scratchers think they need to protect their projects from being stolen.

I wouldn't bother. They are just going to get a notice asking them to remove that line. Don't waste your time on stuff like that.

TheMonsterOfTheDeep

Yes, report that sort of thing. People saying “don't remix!” creates a hostile environment for remixers - which is something that the Scratch Team definitely wants to avoid, as one of the largest points of Scratch is building on others' work.

GameTV-

geek62 wrote:
The Scratch Wiki section on remixing ( https://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Remix ) says we should report projects that say “no remixing”.
Is that official? 'Coz there are zillions of those out there - it seems like all new Scratchers think they need to protect their projects from being stolen.

Umm.. I don't Bother. There are many projects that say no remixing. I think so what you say is true. But I don't think it is official..

jromagnoli

geek62 wrote:
The Scratch Wiki section on remixing ( https://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Remix ) says we should report projects that say “no remixing”.
Is that official? 'Coz there are zillions of those out there - it seems like all new Scratchers think they need to protect their projects from being stolen.

It depends upon the situation. If they are stopping remixes just because they don't want copies of it, report. If they are saying that because it is a test, or unfinished, or supposed to remain secretive, don't report.

2690103

I think that you shouldn't report people who say “Don't Remix” they just want it to be one of a kind and special so it's really unnecessary to Report something like that!

2690103

2690103 wrote:
I think that you shouldn't report people who say “Don't Remix” they just want it to be one of a kind and special so it's really unnecessary to Report something like that!

cul8er

2690103 wrote:
I think that you shouldn't report people who say “Don't Remix” they just want it to be one of a kind and special so it's really unnecessary to Report something like that!

No, it is reportable. By sharing your project on Scratch you agree to allow remixes.

BUT - be careful of context. If people say “Don't remix without changing something!” this is both allowed and true. In fact, remixes that violate this rule should be reported themselves.

I am sympathetic to the arguments for a no-remix feature, because it is EXTREMELY annoying to have your project passed off as someone else's and receiving no credit

Thankfully, my projects are apparently so bad that no-one views them, let alone steals them. (If anyone would like to remedy this, feel absolutely free to go to my profile and find them).

ZZ9PluralZAlpha

cul8er wrote:
2690103 wrote:
I think that you shouldn't report people who say “Don't Remix” they just want it to be one of a kind and special so it's really unnecessary to Report something like that!
No, it is reportable. By sharing your project on Scratch you agree to allow remixes.

BUT - be careful of context. If people say “Don't remix without changing something!” this is both allowed and true. In fact, remixes that violate this rule should be reported themselves.

I am sympathetic to the arguments for a no-remix feature, because it is EXTREMELY annoying to have your project passed off as someone else's and receiving no credit

Thankfully, my projects are apparently so bad that no-one views them, let alone steals them. (If anyone would like to remedy this, feel absolutely free to go to my profile and find them).

Yes, I have put on a couple of mine ‘Please don’t remix without making some sort of upgrade and please give credit to me for mine.'

I REALLY don't like it when people copy-remix, and I usually report copies straight away. If someone remixes and changes something which is enough for the remix to be valid, but they haven't given credit, I ask them kindly for credit and usually they do add it.

I think your projects are really good! Don't put yourself down.

girlsruless

jromagnoli wrote:
geek62 wrote:
The Scratch Wiki section on remixing ( https://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Remix ) says we should report projects that say “no remixing”.
Is that official? 'Coz there are zillions of those out there - it seems like all new Scratchers think they need to protect their projects from being stolen.

It depends upon the situation. If they are stopping remixes just because they don't want copies of it, report. If they are saying that because it is a test, or unfinished, or supposed to remain secretive, don't report.

If it is unfinished or private, could they just unshare it until it is done?

muellly

It depends on the context. If someone says, No remixing or else, that is definitely reportable. However if they have something along the lines of, Please don't remix unless (list of things they would like other people to do one of them if they remix), is okay. However it mostly depends on their context. If someone who puts do not remix tells a remixer to take their remix down then that's definitely reportable.

PrincessPanda_test_

If it says “Please don't remix”, it's reportable.
If it says “Please don't remix without changing anything”, it's okay.

krazyforkitkats

No. Because they may not know that you can't tell people to not remix their project. You should try warning them but don't threaten them that you will report them if they don't take down that line. If you tell them and they don't listen or respond with harshness, then report them. And as i said, don't threaten them ‘cause you will only make the problem worse. Same with criticizing. Criticizing can actually stress people out and just fuel their flames. When people criticize me, whenever i think about them i just wanna get revenge. So best not to cause a bunch of other problems. You should also see if the person who said “no remixing” in there project is a new scratcher. if they aren’t, check how old the project is. It could just be an old one they made as a new scratcher and forgot about. Check when it was last modified as well. If it was a long time ago, then chances are it was pretty much forgotten about.

TheMonsterOfTheDeep

^ why would you ever threaten to report somebody? it's a waste of time and fuels the flames. the correct course of action is always to just report something without alerting the person being reported.

awesome5185

Yeah I'd just give that project a nice fat remix. Then tell them that it's against the guidelines. (Rules that must be adhered to or you'll get the the harsh soft-spoken words from the ST)

2690103

krazyforkitkats wrote:
No. Because they may not know that you can't tell people to not remix their project. You should try warning them but don't threaten them that you will report them if they don't take down that line. If you tell them and they don't listen or respond with harshness, then report them. And as i said, don't threaten them ‘cause you will only make the problem worse. Same with criticizing. Criticizing can actually stress people out and just fuel their flames. When people criticize me, whenever i think about them i just wanna get revenge. So best not to cause a bunch of other problems. You should also see if the person who said “no remixing” in there project is a new scratcher. if they aren’t, check how old the project is. It could just be an old one they made as a new scratcher and forgot about. Check when it was last modified as well. If it was a long time ago, then chances are it was pretty much forgotten about.

#same

2690103

scratchtwins-691

I wouldn't report that, some people don't want their projects remixed because they want it to be unique and sometimes they don't change things and sometimes they change things and don't have anything to do with the original projects. I am apart of the Scratch Wiki, so I need to ask about that after I read the article.

I read the article, I'm not going to edit it because I don't see any reason to. But I might ask the person who wrote the article where they got the information from.

Last edited by scratchtwins-691 (Aug. 5, 2017 23:24:35)

EpicIzAwesome

What i would say is don't report it, IF you want to remix a project and it says it, just do it because they probably mean "Don't remix unless you are going to change something.

cul8er

scratchtwins-691 wrote:
I wouldn't report that, some people don't want their projects remixed because they want it to be unique and sometimes they don't change things and sometimes they change things and don't have anything to do with the original projects. I am apart of the Scratch Wiki, so I need to ask about that after I read the article.

I read the article, I'm not going to edit it because I don't see any reason to. But I might ask the person who wrote the article where they got the information from.

krazyforkitkats wrote:
No. Because they may not know that you can't tell people to not remix their project. You should try warning them but don't threaten them that you will report them if they don't take down that line. If you tell them and they don't listen or respond with harshness, then report them. And as i said, don't threaten them ‘cause you will only make the problem worse. Same with criticizing. Criticizing can actually stress people out and just fuel their flames. When people criticize me, whenever i think about them i just wanna get revenge. So best not to cause a bunch of other problems. You should also see if the person who said “no remixing” in there project is a new scratcher. if they aren’t, check how old the project is. It could just be an old one they made as a new scratcher and forgot about. Check when it was last modified as well. If it was a long time ago, then chances are it was pretty much forgotten about.

2690103 wrote:
I think that you shouldn't report people who say “Don't Remix” they just want it to be one of a kind and special so it's really unnecessary to Report something like that!

It doesn't matter how people feel about their projects being remixed. By sharing their projects on Scratch, they agree to allow remixes. Saying ‘no remixes’ is a violation of the Terms of Use.

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