AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

Guys I will delay the dev preview again to 3 PM PST since i need to do some more things to this before it is ready

GAMS2 wrote:

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

Alright, so I have an announcement to make.

So turns out that for one class, I need to go in person to school to do it. Two days a week for one hour.
So because of this, this might affect AspectOS a bit. But don't worry, nothing bad will happen to AspectOS… I hope.
This will be all year long as well. This is terrible… I'm anti-social

DEAR GOD!!
POOR AI!

lol

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

(#4845)

kkidslogin wrote:

Here is is. I have more to do but want to work on other stuff today. Here's a list of features that need to be done (In order of importance):

1. Add design to be usable as a one-sprite window engine
   
2. Add minimization and resizing (someday)
   
3. Add filled mode
   
4. Add the ability to hide the close button
   
5. Clean up the close button
   

Also check out this turbowarp link to see how it looks with High Quality Pen

Let's see what this looks like

This is actually really good! I like it! Of course, I cannot go on turbowarp since it is blocked but I can already imagine what is is like. This is good except for some problems. But I don't know if we can fix them. For example, when we move the window off-screen, the letters just jumble up together at the edge until you move the entire window back into our view. But honestly, clones do that as well. So it's fine!

kkidslogin wrote:

(#4851)
I have an idea for the goal of AspectOS: What we're trying to do is make the “best, most advanced” OS on Scratch. But I have a better idea. Rather than try and make it look stupendous, or try and add fancy features like 3D or a camera, we should try and make an OS that could be used as a “daily driver” for at least simple office work. Thus we would need these features:

• Multitasking While this seems simple, many Scratch OSes lack the ability to have more than one window on-screen at a time, or even to run an app in the background. This would be important.
  
• Filesystem In addition, we would need to implement a filesystem, so that data is easily stored. We would also have to be able to download it to a real disk for later use.
  
• Apps This is simple, but the inbuilt apps need to be simple and functional. Think stuff along the lines of Notepad and File Explorer; simple, reliable apps that can be used for simple work but aren't the best for specialized stuff.
  
• Programming We need a simple, fast programming language for user-made apps that has first-class access to system utilities.
  
• (EDITED IN) Settings We also need to add settings to control graphic quality, resolution, background processes, etc, to remove lag on low-end systems while allowing for beautiful graphics on higher-end ones.
  
• Special Features If all these needs are met, then we can start adding those special features. Transparency effects. Inbuilt 3D. A music app. A camera. Video games. Controller support. Multi-res support. All those goodies. But only after the previous goals are met. We need to make sure we aren't using too many assets, or causing lag with background processes and subroutines.
  

• Multitasking I mean, why not?
  
• Filesystem Great idea, but can't we back up data to a server? (you can make one yourself, but you need to learn sql and a have paid account)
  
• Apps Can we make a way to fullscreen and minimize apps? Or all windows in that matter.
  
• Programming I made a collab on this.
  
• Settings I like the sound of that!
  
• Special Features Agreed.
  

yooit_32 wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

(#4851)
I have an idea for the goal of AspectOS: What we're trying to do is make the “best, most advanced” OS on Scratch. But I have a better idea. Rather than try and make it look stupendous, or try and add fancy features like 3D or a camera, we should try and make an OS that could be used as a “daily driver” for at least simple office work. Thus we would need these features:

• Multitasking While this seems simple, many Scratch OSes lack the ability to have more than one window on-screen at a time, or even to run an app in the background. This would be important.
  
• Filesystem In addition, we would need to implement a filesystem, so that data is easily stored. We would also have to be able to download it to a real disk for later use.
  
• Apps This is simple, but the inbuilt apps need to be simple and functional. Think stuff along the lines of Notepad and File Explorer; simple, reliable apps that can be used for simple work but aren't the best for specialized stuff.
  
• Programming We need a simple, fast programming language for user-made apps that has first-class access to system utilities.
  
• (EDITED IN) Settings We also need to add settings to control graphic quality, resolution, background processes, etc, to remove lag on low-end systems while allowing for beautiful graphics on higher-end ones.
  
• Special Features If all these needs are met, then we can start adding those special features. Transparency effects. Inbuilt 3D. A music app. A camera. Video games. Controller support. Multi-res support. All those goodies. But only after the previous goals are met. We need to make sure we aren't using too many assets, or causing lag with background processes and subroutines.
  

• Multitasking I mean, why not?
  
• Filesystem Great idea, but can't we back up data to a server? (you can make one yourself, but you need to learn sql and a have paid account)
  
• Apps Can we make a way to fullscreen and minimize apps? Or all windows in that matter.
  
• Programming I made a collab on this.
  
• Settings I like the sound of that!
  
• Special Features Agreed.
  

kkidslogin wrote:

(#4867)

yooit_32 wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

(#4851)
I have an idea for the goal of AspectOS: What we're trying to do is make the “best, most advanced” OS on Scratch. But I have a better idea. Rather than try and make it look stupendous, or try and add fancy features like 3D or a camera, we should try and make an OS that could be used as a “daily driver” for at least simple office work. Thus we would need these features:

• Multitasking While this seems simple, many Scratch OSes lack the ability to have more than one window on-screen at a time, or even to run an app in the background. This would be important.
  
• Filesystem In addition, we would need to implement a filesystem, so that data is easily stored. We would also have to be able to download it to a real disk for later use.
  
• Apps This is simple, but the inbuilt apps need to be simple and functional. Think stuff along the lines of Notepad and File Explorer; simple, reliable apps that can be used for simple work but aren't the best for specialized stuff.
  
• Programming We need a simple, fast programming language for user-made apps that has first-class access to system utilities.
  
• (EDITED IN) Settings We also need to add settings to control graphic quality, resolution, background processes, etc, to remove lag on low-end systems while allowing for beautiful graphics on higher-end ones.
  
• Special Features If all these needs are met, then we can start adding those special features. Transparency effects. Inbuilt 3D. A music app. A camera. Video games. Controller support. Multi-res support. All those goodies. But only after the previous goals are met. We need to make sure we aren't using too many assets, or causing lag with background processes and subroutines.
  

• Multitasking I mean, why not?
  
• Filesystem Great idea, but can't we back up data to a server? (you can make one yourself, but you need to learn sql and a have paid account)
  
• Apps Can we make a way to fullscreen and minimize apps? Or all windows in that matter.
  
• Programming I made a collab on this.
  
• Settings I like the sound of that!
  
• Special Features Agreed.
  

Servers would be slowwww

Defenitely have resizable and fullscreen. That's why we have my pen window engine.

yooit_32 wrote:

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

(#4845)

kkidslogin wrote:

Here is is. I have more to do but want to work on other stuff today. Here's a list of features that need to be done (In order of importance):

1. Add design to be usable as a one-sprite window engine
   
2. Add minimization and resizing (someday)
   
3. Add filled mode
   
4. Add the ability to hide the close button
   
5. Clean up the close button
   

Also check out this turbowarp link to see how it looks with High Quality Pen

Let's see what this looks like

This is actually really good! I like it! Of course, I cannot go on turbowarp since it is blocked but I can already imagine what is is like. This is good except for some problems. But I don't know if we can fix them. For example, when we move the window off-screen, the letters just jumble up together at the edge until you move the entire window back into our view. But honestly, clones do that as well. So it's fine!

no turbowarp, you say?

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

yooit_32 wrote:

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

(#4845)

kkidslogin wrote:

Here is is. I have more to do but want to work on other stuff today. Here's a list of features that need to be done (In order of importance):

1. Add design to be usable as a one-sprite window engine
   
2. Add minimization and resizing (someday)
   
3. Add filled mode
   
4. Add the ability to hide the close button
   
5. Clean up the close button
   

Also check out this turbowarp link to see how it looks with High Quality Pen

Let's see what this looks like

This is actually really good! I like it! Of course, I cannot go on turbowarp since it is blocked but I can already imagine what is is like. This is good except for some problems. But I don't know if we can fix them. For example, when we move the window off-screen, the letters just jumble up together at the edge until you move the entire window back into our view. But honestly, clones do that as well. So it's fine!

no turbowarp, you say?

anything with the turbowarp name is blocked. We went over this three months ago.
Don't worry, I have another way of viewing these types of things

yooit_32 wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

(#4867)

yooit_32 wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

(#4851)
I have an idea for the goal of AspectOS: What we're trying to do is make the “best, most advanced” OS on Scratch. But I have a better idea. Rather than try and make it look stupendous, or try and add fancy features like 3D or a camera, we should try and make an OS that could be used as a “daily driver” for at least simple office work. Thus we would need these features:

• Multitasking While this seems simple, many Scratch OSes lack the ability to have more than one window on-screen at a time, or even to run an app in the background. This would be important.
  
• Filesystem In addition, we would need to implement a filesystem, so that data is easily stored. We would also have to be able to download it to a real disk for later use.
  
• Apps This is simple, but the inbuilt apps need to be simple and functional. Think stuff along the lines of Notepad and File Explorer; simple, reliable apps that can be used for simple work but aren't the best for specialized stuff.
  
• Programming We need a simple, fast programming language for user-made apps that has first-class access to system utilities.
  
• (EDITED IN) Settings We also need to add settings to control graphic quality, resolution, background processes, etc, to remove lag on low-end systems while allowing for beautiful graphics on higher-end ones.
  
• Special Features If all these needs are met, then we can start adding those special features. Transparency effects. Inbuilt 3D. A music app. A camera. Video games. Controller support. Multi-res support. All those goodies. But only after the previous goals are met. We need to make sure we aren't using too many assets, or causing lag with background processes and subroutines.
  

• Multitasking I mean, why not?
  
• Filesystem Great idea, but can't we back up data to a server? (you can make one yourself, but you need to learn sql and a have paid account)
  
• Apps Can we make a way to fullscreen and minimize apps? Or all windows in that matter.
  
• Programming I made a collab on this.
  
• Settings I like the sound of that!
  
• Special Features Agreed.
  

Servers would be slowwww

Defenitely have resizable and fullscreen. That's why we have my pen window engine.

So how do we make the servers faster?

kkidslogin wrote:

Forkphorus?

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

Forkphorus?

Yeah, that is a way, but I don't want to risk forkphorus getting blocked, so I am using another website that loads scratch projects.

kkidslogin wrote:

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

Forkphorus?

Yeah, that is a way, but I don't want to risk forkphorus getting blocked, so I am using another website that loads scratch projects.

Genious. You could also clone and build turbowarp and put it on a github pages as like aiwarp.github.io or something.

GAMS2 wrote:

Jeez, our wiki is inactive.

I'm not letting it die though!!

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

GAMS2 wrote:

Jeez, our wiki is inactive.

I'm not letting it die though!!

oh yeah, I forgot about the Wiki… I was focused on the main thing since we haven't been doing that for so long. I'm glad we are focused on the OS now.

GAMS2 wrote:

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

GAMS2 wrote:

Jeez, our wiki is inactive.

I'm not letting it die though!!

oh yeah, I forgot about the Wiki… I was focused on the main thing since we haven't been doing that for so long. I'm glad we are focused on the OS now.

Focusing on the big stuff is good, but we shouldn't forget about the small stuff.

Also, after 60 days of inactivity a Miraheze wiki automatically deletes a wiki.

(I get a 30 day warning in my email though)

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

GAMS2 wrote:

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

GAMS2 wrote:

Jeez, our wiki is inactive.

I'm not letting it die though!!

oh yeah, I forgot about the Wiki… I was focused on the main thing since we haven't been doing that for so long. I'm glad we are focused on the OS now.

Focusing on the big stuff is good, but we shouldn't forget about the small stuff.

Also, after 60 days of inactivity a Miraheze wiki automatically deletes a wiki.

(I get a 30 day warning in my email though)

2 months? Not that bad. I could add an article every week to keep it from dying. But what can I add….

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

GAMS2 wrote:

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

GAMS2 wrote:

Jeez, our wiki is inactive.

I'm not letting it die though!!

oh yeah, I forgot about the Wiki… I was focused on the main thing since we haven't been doing that for so long. I'm glad we are focused on the OS now.

Focusing on the big stuff is good, but we shouldn't forget about the small stuff.

Also, after 60 days of inactivity a Miraheze wiki automatically deletes a wiki.

(I get a 30 day warning in my email though)

2 months? Not that bad. I could add an article every week to keep it from dying. But what can I add….

kkidslogin wrote:

(#4870)

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

yooit_32 wrote:

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

(#4845)

kkidslogin wrote:

Here is is. I have more to do but want to work on other stuff today. Here's a list of features that need to be done (In order of importance):

1. Add design to be usable as a one-sprite window engine
   
2. Add minimization and resizing (someday)
   
3. Add filled mode
   
4. Add the ability to hide the close button
   
5. Clean up the close button
   

Also check out this turbowarp link to see how it looks with High Quality Pen

Let's see what this looks like

This is actually really good! I like it! Of course, I cannot go on turbowarp since it is blocked but I can already imagine what is is like. This is good except for some problems. But I don't know if we can fix them. For example, when we move the window off-screen, the letters just jumble up together at the edge until you move the entire window back into our view. But honestly, clones do that as well. So it's fine!

no turbowarp, you say?

anything with the turbowarp name is blocked. We went over this three months ago.
Don't worry, I have another way of viewing these types of things

Forkphorus?

yooit_32 wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

(#4867)

yooit_32 wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

(#4851)
I have an idea for the goal of AspectOS: What we're trying to do is make the “best, most advanced” OS on Scratch. But I have a better idea. Rather than try and make it look stupendous, or try and add fancy features like 3D or a camera, we should try and make an OS that could be used as a “daily driver” for at least simple office work. Thus we would need these features:

• Multitasking While this seems simple, many Scratch OSes lack the ability to have more than one window on-screen at a time, or even to run an app in the background. This would be important.
  
• Filesystem In addition, we would need to implement a filesystem, so that data is easily stored. We would also have to be able to download it to a real disk for later use.
  
• Apps This is simple, but the inbuilt apps need to be simple and functional. Think stuff along the lines of Notepad and File Explorer; simple, reliable apps that can be used for simple work but aren't the best for specialized stuff.
  
• Programming We need a simple, fast programming language for user-made apps that has first-class access to system utilities.
  
• (EDITED IN) Settings We also need to add settings to control graphic quality, resolution, background processes, etc, to remove lag on low-end systems while allowing for beautiful graphics on higher-end ones.
  
• Special Features If all these needs are met, then we can start adding those special features. Transparency effects. Inbuilt 3D. A music app. A camera. Video games. Controller support. Multi-res support. All those goodies. But only after the previous goals are met. We need to make sure we aren't using too many assets, or causing lag with background processes and subroutines.
  

• Multitasking I mean, why not?
  
• Filesystem Great idea, but can't we back up data to a server? (you can make one yourself, but you need to learn sql and a have paid account)
  
• Apps Can we make a way to fullscreen and minimize apps? Or all windows in that matter.
  
• Programming I made a collab on this.
  
• Settings I like the sound of that!
  
• Special Features Agreed.
  

Servers would be slowwww

Defenitely have resizable and fullscreen. That's why we have my pen window engine.

So how do we make the servers faster?

There's no way to- The maximum (GLOBAL!) bandwidth of the cloud variables is more than 10x slower than the slowest modem you could use with the internet- in 1995! Thus, all the users using it would have to share bandwidth on a network slower than a 28.8.

We might be able to make an online app store, as individual apps would use far less bandwidth (and it isn't a big deal if the server's down…), but something as heavy and as critical as an online storage site would be very slow.

EDIT: A “28.8” was the slowest (may still be) modem usable with the World Wide Web. It's name refers to the fact that it transferred data a 28.8 kilobits per second, or 3.6 kilobytes per second. It connected to WIndows 95-Windows Vista PCs over the serial port.

yooit_32 wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

(#4870)

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

yooit_32 wrote:

AIGamesDeveloper wrote:

(#4845)

kkidslogin wrote:

Here is is. I have more to do but want to work on other stuff today. Here's a list of features that need to be done (In order of importance):

1. Add design to be usable as a one-sprite window engine
   
2. Add minimization and resizing (someday)
   
3. Add filled mode
   
4. Add the ability to hide the close button
   
5. Clean up the close button
   

Also check out this turbowarp link to see how it looks with High Quality Pen

Let's see what this looks like

This is actually really good! I like it! Of course, I cannot go on turbowarp since it is blocked but I can already imagine what is is like. This is good except for some problems. But I don't know if we can fix them. For example, when we move the window off-screen, the letters just jumble up together at the edge until you move the entire window back into our view. But honestly, clones do that as well. So it's fine!

no turbowarp, you say?

anything with the turbowarp name is blocked. We went over this three months ago.
Don't worry, I have another way of viewing these types of things

Forkphorus?

yooit_32 wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

(#4867)

yooit_32 wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

(#4851)
I have an idea for the goal of AspectOS: What we're trying to do is make the “best, most advanced” OS on Scratch. But I have a better idea. Rather than try and make it look stupendous, or try and add fancy features like 3D or a camera, we should try and make an OS that could be used as a “daily driver” for at least simple office work. Thus we would need these features:

• Multitasking While this seems simple, many Scratch OSes lack the ability to have more than one window on-screen at a time, or even to run an app in the background. This would be important.
  
• Filesystem In addition, we would need to implement a filesystem, so that data is easily stored. We would also have to be able to download it to a real disk for later use.
  
• Apps This is simple, but the inbuilt apps need to be simple and functional. Think stuff along the lines of Notepad and File Explorer; simple, reliable apps that can be used for simple work but aren't the best for specialized stuff.
  
• Programming We need a simple, fast programming language for user-made apps that has first-class access to system utilities.
  
• (EDITED IN) Settings We also need to add settings to control graphic quality, resolution, background processes, etc, to remove lag on low-end systems while allowing for beautiful graphics on higher-end ones.
  
• Special Features If all these needs are met, then we can start adding those special features. Transparency effects. Inbuilt 3D. A music app. A camera. Video games. Controller support. Multi-res support. All those goodies. But only after the previous goals are met. We need to make sure we aren't using too many assets, or causing lag with background processes and subroutines.
  

• Multitasking I mean, why not?
  
• Filesystem Great idea, but can't we back up data to a server? (you can make one yourself, but you need to learn sql and a have paid account)
  
• Apps Can we make a way to fullscreen and minimize apps? Or all windows in that matter.
  
• Programming I made a collab on this.
  
• Settings I like the sound of that!
  
• Special Features Agreed.
  

Servers would be slowwww

Defenitely have resizable and fullscreen. That's why we have my pen window engine.

So how do we make the servers faster?

There's no way to- The maximum (GLOBAL!) bandwidth of the cloud variables is more than 10x slower than the slowest modem you could use with the internet- in 1995! Thus, all the users using it would have to share bandwidth on a network slower than a 28.8.

We might be able to make an online app store, as individual apps would use far less bandwidth (and it isn't a big deal if the server's down…), but something as heavy and as critical as an online storage site would be very slow.

EDIT: A “28.8” was the slowest (may still be) modem usable with the World Wide Web. It's name refers to the fact that it transferred data a 28.8 kilobits per second, or 3.6 kilobytes per second. It connected to WIndows 95-Windows Vista PCs over the serial port.

god that's slow.