Better Custom Blocks

Hearst10

PATSATDAT wrote:
gosoccerboy5 wrote:
Other languages have it as a cap block, same as snap. Why not scratch?

a cap block is a block that scripts can not run after so it shouldnt be a cap block

we don't want scripts to run after that. plus, there is a very easy workaround if it is a cap block.
look, i'll just quote, @bharvey (scratch username) (@bh in snap!), a snap! developer, from the snap forums:

bharvey on the snap forums wrote:
-snip-
When you report a value to your caller, your process is back in the caller, not running code in the procedure. Why would that be useful? You can't report a second time; your caller has already picked up your reported value and is running with it.

Proof

Last edited by Hearst10 (Jan. 29, 2021 14:52:10)

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gosoccerboy5

PATSATDAT wrote:
gosoccerboy5 wrote:
Other languages have it as a cap block, same as snap. Why not scratch?

a cap block is a block that scripts can not run after so it shouldnt be a cap block

Yeah, but the point of a return statement is that it returns an output, it returns to the original script. I think the main point of not being able to run scripts after a return statement is because that kind of function only serves a specific use and should not extend beyond that.

PATSATDAT

Hearst10 wrote:
PATSATDAT wrote:
gosoccerboy5 wrote:
Other languages have it as a cap block, same as snap. Why not scratch?

a cap block is a block that scripts can not run after so it shouldnt be a cap block
we don't want scripts to run after that. plus, there is a very easy workaround if it is a cap block.
look, i'll just quote, @bharvey (scratch username) (@bh in snap!), a snap! developer, from the snap forums:
bharvey on the snap forums wrote:
-snip-
When you report a value to your caller, your process is back in the caller, not running code in the procedure. Why would that be useful? You can't report a second time; your caller has already picked up your reported value and is running with it.
Proof

Its picked it up but we wont use the return block afterwards

return () ::custom
scripts that arent return blocks ::grey

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PATSATDAT

mrCamelCase wrote:
Futurebot5 wrote:
Has the ST ever seen this?

No clue. It's a long, old topic so presumably yes, and they've chosen not to act on it.

sadly they havent acted on it

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Hearst10

PATSATDAT wrote:
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look: I have already said that there is an easy workaround.

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IndianRuby718

mrCamelCase wrote:
Wasn't this already rejected?

… what
I've seen older posts on other topics saying that 3.0 was going to have custom reporters! That's like the opposite of rejected–

I've found so many times I would've used this ever since seeing this topic..

One thing I came up with is doing something like this, for example:

set [variable v] to ((complex thing :: list) * (another complex thing :: list))

Where both of these use the same temp. variable. If we had custom reporters, then the temp could be reused (I think so.. I could be wrong), while with any other way we'd need two temps.

Also, about what the cap block should say, I still think it should be “report”. “return value” also sounds interesting, though it would still be a lot better as a single word. “return” may be used in other programming languages, but I personally don't like the sound of it, and I think it would be a tad less confusing :P

Hearst10 wrote:
look: I have already said that there is an easy workaround.

But, this feature would be so intuitive to have; I've found myself wishing for custom reporters ever since seeing this topic.

Not for custom booleans though

at least not yet

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Za-chary wrote:
I get more frustrated with people telling me about “mass reporting” than I do about “mass reporting” itself.

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Delta135

full support, only make it so that you can make hat, reporter, and stack block shapes

PATSATDAT

Delta135 wrote:
full support, only make it so that you can make hat, reporter, and stack block shapes

What about Boolean shapes?

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AHypnoman

PATSATDAT wrote:
Delta135 wrote:
full support, only make it so that you can make hat, reporter, and stack block shapes
What about Boolean shapes?

They're called predictates, and yes, We would have those as well.
Just gonna link Wikipedia for those doubting the name

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AHypnoman wrote:
PATSATDAT wrote:
Delta135 wrote:
full support, only make it so that you can make hat, reporter, and stack block shapes
What about Boolean shapes?
They're called predictates, and yes, We would have those as well.

They're called booleans and let's not get offtopic.

Ankit_Anmol

FULL SUPPORT

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Rendangbike2

Ankit_Anmol wrote:
FULL SUPPORT

Why?

1132262

Rendangbike2 wrote:
Ankit_Anmol wrote:
FULL SUPPORT
Why?

At this point asking people why they support just adds more posts. They rarely actually respond, and when they do, they give a reason that's been given many times before.

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Hearst10

Rendangbike2 wrote:
AHypnoman wrote:
PATSATDAT wrote:
Delta135 wrote:
full support, only make it so that you can make hat, reporter, and stack block shapes
What about Boolean shapes?
They're called predictates, and yes, We would have those as well.
They're called booleans and let's not get offtopic.

no, they are predicates. people call them booleans because the return value is a boolean.

1132262 wrote:
Rendangbike2 wrote:
Ankit_Anmol wrote:
FULL SUPPORT
Why?
At this point asking people why they support just adds more posts. They rarely actually respond, and when they do, they give a reason that's been given many times before.

i'll say “please be constructive” in the future

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Hearst10

Delta135 wrote:
full support, only make it so that you can make hat, reporter, and stack block shapes

and what about c-blocks? (look, the c-shape is an input) to the block, not a type of block.)
also, please be constructive.

Last edited by Hearst10 (Feb. 3, 2021 14:12:37)

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Support, Great Idea!

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Hearst10

twitch_BobbyBrawlz wrote:
Support, Great Idea!

please be constructive and say why

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Rendangbike2

twitch_BobbyBrawlz wrote:
Support, Great Idea!

Can you please tell us why is it a great idea?

Redclopez

Support. I've been thinking about doing that too. I could use it like this

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