Better Custom Blocks

medians

cookieclickerer33 wrote:
MagicCoder330 wrote:
Looks like a great idea, even if it is ancient. This seems like it would help a LOT. also looks like its been discussed for a while… Why has ST not added it?
They did have it but it was removed right before 1.4

It was removed before the release of 1.0.

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cookieclickerer33 wrote:
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MagicCoder330 wrote:
Looks like a great idea, even if it is ancient. This seems like it would help a LOT. also looks like its been discussed for a while… Why has ST not added it?
They did have it but it was removed right before 1.4

what? sorry, what version had this exact suggestion?

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medians

lapisi wrote:
cookieclickerer33 wrote:
(#2494)
MagicCoder330 wrote:
Looks like a great idea, even if it is ancient. This seems like it would help a LOT. also looks like its been discussed for a while… Why has ST not added it?
They did have it but it was removed right before 1.4
what? sorry, what version had this exact suggestion?

Well, not exactly and it was a prototype, but there was an output block in old vers of 0.x, and you could put it under a custom block (there were custom blocks) to create custom reporters.

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“Custom reporters” seems like the most critical feature suggestion. This is rather important for teaching proper programming later. They are also equivalent to mathematical functions which is a 6th grade concept at most. They should be implemented in such a way as to disallow side effects.

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10 year anniversary bump

I haven't touched Scratch in a few years and opening up some of my old projects I was honestly surprised at how limited Scratch is with respect to functions… in particular, the total lack of support for local variables is something I completely forgot about, it is honestly kind of bananas to me that I wrote significant amounts of Scratch code where all functions were built on computing with global variables and lists.

It is funny to me how my original post was worded, when I literally did not understand how programming really worked. Suffice to say that nowadays, I unquestionably believe that custom reporters and local variables are extremely nice features for writing code, and I would still love to see at least some version of them in Scratch one day.

Perhaps in another 10 years.

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Also, nice, the original poster did a 10 year anniversary.. wait 2013 was 10 years ago??

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but..there is.. custom booleans… you mean like on their own?

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medians

Wonkymoon8 wrote:
but..there is.. custom booleans… you mean like on their own?

No there isn’t, can you explain what you’re referring to?

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Oh wait if you could time travel I think we all know exactly when you would go-
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user2: But this is medians we're talking about, so “from 2.0” can mean the same thing as “from five seconds ago”.
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medians wrote:
Wonkymoon8 wrote:
but..there is.. custom booleans… you mean like on their own?
No there isn’t, can you explain what you’re referring to?

I think they ment Boolean input slots

Actually the correct term would be a custom predicate. A function that returns true or false is called a predicate. But a true or false value itself is called a Boolean

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cookieclickerer33 wrote:
medians wrote:
Wonkymoon8 wrote:
but..there is.. custom booleans… you mean like on their own?
No there isn’t, can you explain what you’re referring to?
I think they ment Boolean input slots

Actually the correct term would be a custom predicate. A function that returns true or false is called a predicate. But a true or false value itself is called a Boolean

yeah pretty much. ive never used custom boolean input slots though

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TheMonsterOfTheDeep wrote:
(#2506)
Perhaps in another 10 years.

Like what @cookieclickerer33 said last page, we need to make a pull request to the GitHub if we want this added. When I asked the ST about USB Controller support, they said they aren't focusing on new features as they are going through reorganization at the moment. Basically, if people want this, they need to develop it themselves.

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medians: I knew it would happen. I was the one who started it last year.
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No there isn’t, can you explain what you’re referring to?
I think they ment Boolean input slots

Actually the correct term would be a custom predicate. A function that returns true or false is called a predicate. But a true or false value itself is called a Boolean

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Super_Basher wrote:
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cookieclickerer33 wrote:
(#2510)
medians wrote:
Wonkymoon8 wrote:
but..there is.. custom booleans… you mean like on their own?
No there isn’t, can you explain what you’re referring to?
I think they ment Boolean input slots

Actually the correct term would be a custom predicate. A function that returns true or false is called a predicate. But a true or false value itself is called a Boolean

Well, the Boolean would be referred to as “
<[uwu] ”placeholder [uwu] ?>
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medians: Oh god not this utc - 12 thing again..
Fun_Cupcake_i81: What, were you expecting not to see the utc - 12 thing again? THE UTC - 12 THIGN ALWAYS RETURNS. ALWAYS.
medians: I knew it would happen. I was the one who started it last year.
Fun_Cupcake_i81: Well then if you didn't want it back maybe you need to time travel to last year and fix that

Oh wait if you could time travel I think we all know exactly when you would go-
user1: That picture is from 2.0. Now he’s at my house and is my pet.
user2: But this is medians we're talking about, so “from 2.0” can mean the same thing as “from five seconds ago”.
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TheMonsterOfTheDeep wrote:
10 year anniversary bump

I haven't touched Scratch in a few years and opening up some of my old projects I was honestly surprised at how limited Scratch is with respect to functions… in particular, the total lack of support for local variables is something I completely forgot about, it is honestly kind of bananas to me that I wrote significant amounts of Scratch code where all functions were built on computing with global variables and lists.

It is funny to me how my original post was worded, when I literally did not understand how programming really worked. Suffice to say that nowadays, I unquestionably believe that custom reporters and local variables are extremely nice features for writing code, and I would still love to see at least some version of them in Scratch one day.

Perhaps in another 10 years.

The monster arose from the deep

:package: :thisandagainplsexplain:

On the one hand, custom reporters would definitely make the absence of local variables much easier to bear. OTOH, local variables shouldn't be hard to understand, so why not — it's more essential than other things that get added.

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Jonathan50 wrote:
TheMonsterOfTheDeep wrote:
10 year anniversary bump

I haven't touched Scratch in a few years and opening up some of my old projects I was honestly surprised at how limited Scratch is with respect to functions… in particular, the total lack of support for local variables is something I completely forgot about, it is honestly kind of bananas to me that I wrote significant amounts of Scratch code where all functions were built on computing with global variables and lists.

It is funny to me how my original post was worded, when I literally did not understand how programming really worked. Suffice to say that nowadays, I unquestionably believe that custom reporters and local variables are extremely nice features for writing code, and I would still love to see at least some version of them in Scratch one day.

Perhaps in another 10 years.
The monster arose from the deep :package: :thisandagainplsexplain:

On the one hand, custom reporters would definitely make the absence of local variables much easier to bear. OTOH, local variables shouldn't be hard to understand, so why not — it's more essential than other things that get added.

There is local in sprite variable, just add a variable and select local. Maybe you mean in a group of blocks. I still think ‘report’ is an unintuitive name and scratch already have unconventional names like custom blocks instead of functions or repeat until instead of while

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