Translate the Scratch asset libraries when Scratch is set in a different language.

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Last edited by RSITYTScratch (May 6, 2024 20:55:23)

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RSITYTScratch wrote:
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Considering the amount of languages and the number of sprites and costumes, that would mean 1,225 sprites and costumes translated to 70 languages, which would further mean a total of 85,750 sprites and costumes.

They wouldn't be different sprites, each sprite would have a translation. Then the frontend (scratch editor) would see which locale (language) you are using, and apply the translation.

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The scratch website has a json file that stores all the English information. Each translation would adjust the file as needed for a different language.

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Anyways, since the extensions library and the tutorials library seem to be translated, we will skip those and focus on the rest of the libraries. There are 339 sprites, 85 backdrops, 353 sounds, and 886 costumes. If we add those together, it means a total of 1,663 untranslated assets. There are 70 available languages in Scratch. If we decided to internationalize the untranslated asset names, it would mean 1,663 asset names translated per language, which would give us 116,410 asset names for 70 languages. It is a big work to deal with 1,663 assets that aren't translated.

(NOTE: I used the Scratch offline editor)

Last edited by RSITYTScratch (May 6, 2024 20:57:02)

3,461: When you see this, copy and paste at the top of your sig if you want to spread the number. If not, then that's fine.

A BIG WAVE OF NOTIFICATIONS AHHHHHH-

Hello, I'm RSITYT! I am a autistic Puerto Rican 11 year old who is known for making Find the Squares.

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RSITYTScratch wrote:
Anyways, since the extensions library and the tutorials library seem to be translated, we will skip those and focus on the rest of the libraries. There are 339 sprites, 85 backdrops, 353 sounds, and 886 costumes. If we add those together, it means a total of 1,663 untranslated assets. There are 70 available languages in Scratch. If we decided to internationalize the untranslated asset names, it would mean 1,663 asset names translated per language, which would give us 116,410 asset names for 70 languages. It is a big work to deal with 1,663 assets that aren't translated.

(NOTE: I used the Scratch offline editor)

It was an even bigger work to deal with the whole Scratch website. Scratch already has translators and uses <hopefully> reliable online translators.

According to some articles I read online, you could write 2000 words (estimate) in fifty minutes at the average WPM. Realistically, I found that it takes ~7 hours to write an essay that is 2000 words {keep in mind this is write, not research and all that stuff added}. Though you have to think about the translation of words, it takes much less than a whole essay. Lets say about five hours for this, though I have no idea if it's more or an understatement. I'm assuming Scratch has multiple translators for each language, so lets say two translators for each language work on typing and translating, if each translator works on translating ~30 minutes each day for five days, you've got a translated library.

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have the search engine find it even if the user searches for “manzana” or “apfel” or “яблоко” or….

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-Rodri wrote:
RSITYTScratch wrote:
Anyways, since the extensions library and the tutorials library seem to be translated, we will skip those and focus on the rest of the libraries. There are 339 sprites, 85 backdrops, 353 sounds, and 886 costumes. If we add those together, it means a total of 1,663 untranslated assets. There are 70 available languages in Scratch. If we decided to internationalize the untranslated asset names, it would mean 1,663 asset names translated per language, which would give us 116,410 asset names for 70 languages. It is a big work to deal with 1,663 assets that aren't translated.

(NOTE: I used the Scratch offline editor)

It was an even bigger work to deal with the whole Scratch website. Scratch already has translators and uses <hopefully> reliable online translators.

According to some articles I read online, you could write 2000 words (estimate) in fifty minutes at the average WPM. Realistically, I found that it takes ~7 hours to write an essay that is 2000 words {keep in mind this is write, not research and all that stuff added}. Though you have to think about the translation of words, it takes much less than a whole essay. Lets say about five hours for this, though I have no idea if it's more or an understatement. I'm assuming Scratch has multiple translators for each language, so lets say two translators for each language work on typing and translating, if each translator works on translating ~30 minutes each day for five days, you've got a translated library.

It's interesing that for each of the libraries mentioned (sprite/costume, backdrops, sounds) the categories for them at the top of the page are already translated, which shows that at some point someone - either the ST or the site translators - did think about this. I still 100% support the suggestion but it would be interesting to hear from the ST about it as I wonder if there's a technical reason why the asset library hasn't already been translated. Another thing that makes me think this is that the default sprite and default sounds (I think it's “sprite1”, “miaow” and “pop” in English?) are translated into Hungarian for me when they're loaded by default - ie. I see “szereplő1”, “miaú” and “pukk” upon creating a new project - but remain in English in the asset library. If I import a new asset - like the “bark” sound - the name stays in English even after it's added to the project. This seems to suggest that some asset translations do already exist, they're just not in active use on the site for whatever reason. If that's the case I'd like to know what the reason is.

1663 assets per each language isn't really that much, given that most of them are one or two words and not abstract concepts, if we're just talking about translating them and not the additional work of implementing the translation on the site, one person working in a single language could probably manage that in less than 5 hours.

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Support, there are really no cons to this and it would just be a simple change to make.

i have preshrunk several times today

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preshunk3 wrote:
Support, there are really no cons to this and it would just be a simple change to make.

It really would be a simple change to make, even if asset names couldn't be changed, it's a known feature that assets have tags that make them show up when you search for those tags. Example being searching “homer” and getting the donut

I forgot to explain my point for mentioning tags.
Even if the names can't be changed, assets can be tagged with their words in a language, which will fix the searching issue rodri brough up.

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honestly the entire asset naming needs an overhaul while we're at it

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