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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
I'm sorry, this is a very ridiculous topic, but I ran into something strange with the forum censor that I can't piece together.
We were writing a forum post in “Disabled people” vs “people with disabilities” and couldn't figure out why the forum filter appeared to disallow us from posting it. (“Sorry, this post appears to include unsuitable language and will not be updated.”) We eventually ruled the problem-area down to a single sentence, which I'll quote here:
We really can't figure out what's up with that. We thought maybe because it's placed behind “successfully”, you could string the letters (without symbols or spaces) together to form a terrorism group name that would understandably be in the filter, but it turns out italicizing “is” anywhere (in a forum post) is enough to trip the filter.
And boldface ([b]…[/b]) doesn't trip the filter—this is no problem! Only italics.
Since the italicization/emphasis was an important part of the message, we just rephrased it like so:
We were writing a forum post in “Disabled people” vs “people with disabilities” and couldn't figure out why the forum filter appeared to disallow us from posting it. (“Sorry, this post appears to include unsuitable language and will not be updated.”) We eventually ruled the problem-area down to a single sentence, which I'll quote here:
Unfortunately, even if a child is successfully communicating their preferences to their caretaker, it's the parents/guardians whose opinions hold the most sway, since they're the ones with power over their children.Or more specifically, just this part:
Unfortunately, even if a child is successfully communicating their preferences to their caretaker,Eventually we figured out the issue: apparently the word “is” being italicized, as in using [i]…[/i] BBCode, was tripping the filter!
We really can't figure out what's up with that. We thought maybe because it's placed behind “successfully”, you could string the letters (without symbols or spaces) together to form a terrorism group name that would understandably be in the filter, but it turns out italicizing “is” anywhere (in a forum post) is enough to trip the filter.
And boldface ([b]…[/b]) doesn't trip the filter—this is no problem! Only italics.
Since the italicization/emphasis was an important part of the message, we just rephrased it like so:
Unfortunately, even if a child does successfully communicate their preferences to their caretaker,And no problem. But italicizing “is” seems like such a benign, tiny-little formatting thing, so thought we'd share the experience.
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
Wow, it really is the entire string, huh? I can even post
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
That's super funny. I have no idea how the symbols manage to play a role. Is it processing the resultant HTML itself and not the BBcode forum text…? But even then, <i>is</i> doesn't seem like it would be any different…?
Edit: nope, evidently we can write that, ha!
Double edit: [i]is[/i] — ha ha, this works too. It's only a problem when it's formatted the whole way through. So weird.
Edit: nope, evidently we can write that, ha!
Double edit: [i]is[/i] — ha ha, this works too. It's only a problem when it's formatted the whole way through. So weird.
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
The forum filter detects the HTML in filtering, others have reported this exact thing with “is”.
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
Huh, that's quite odd. I thought the BBCode was just rendered with JavaScript The forum filter detects the HTML in filtering, others have reported this exact thing with “is”
edit: Some annoying Python 2.7 compiling and script testing later, and I can confirm this is not true :P [i]is[/i] converts to <span class=“bb-italic”>is</span> (also just realized the HTML displayed on the page is the same as what was rendered through Python)
edit: Seems that smart quotes prevent the HTML from being posted… so maybe some HTML is filtered or it's just a coincidence
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
Assuming that you're italicizing just the word “is” between “child” and “successfully” using [i] BBcode tags, the filter might have tripped and thought you were referencing an initialism for an islamic terrorist group (which I would suspect would be censored for obvious reasons)… This is just a hunch though.
EDIT: Tested post, this indeed triggered the filter. Don't worry, it's not that you can't italicize “IS”. It just thinks the characters you're typing are a workaround of a terrorist organization.
EDIT: Tested post, this indeed triggered the filter. Don't worry, it's not that you can't italicize “IS”. It just thinks the characters you're typing are a workaround of a terrorist organization.
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
Well, I think someone showed this once, and it was not filtered on the mainsite.Huh, that's quite odd. I thought the BBCode was just rendered with JavaScript The forum filter detects the HTML in filtering, others have reported this exact thing with “is”
edit: Some annoying Python 2.7 compiling and script testing later, and I can confirm this is not true [i]is[/i] converts to <span class=“bb-italic”>is</span>
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user1: That picture is from 2.0. Now he’s at my house and is my pet.
user2: But this is medians we're talking about, so “from 2.0” can mean the same thing as “from five seconds ago”.
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
(#7)The raw HTML is (though the forums replace the quotes in ajskateboarder's post with smart quotes and that makes it not trigger if you just copy and paste it in). I think Paddle2See once posted that he tested it with the BBCode on the their filter testing site and it did not trigger for them, but I can't find that post.
Well, I think someone showed this once, and it was not filtered on the mainsite.
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
this just happened to me too, in the same topic lol.
I wrote
I went through the entire post trying to remove disability-related words that I thought might be too harsh for Scratch before remembering this topic and it immediately posted after I removed the italics on “is”
I wrote
(…) whereas recognising and validating/affirming my disability IS. this is why (…)except at first, “is” was italicised with bold and not capitalised.
I went through the entire post trying to remove disability-related words that I thought might be too harsh for Scratch before remembering this topic and it immediately posted after I removed the italics on “is”
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
is
? I don't have a problem with it
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
Assuming that you're italicizing just the word “is” between “child” and “successfully” using [i] BBcode tags, the filter might have tripped and thought you were referencing an initialism for an islamic terrorist group (which I would suspect would be censored for obvious reasons)… This is just a hunch though.
EDIT: Tested post, this indeed triggered the filter. Don't worry, it's not that you can't italicize “IS”. It just thinks the characters you're typing are a workaround of a terrorist organization.
We appreciate the investigation, but this is already something we acknowledged in the main post!
anywhere (in a forum post) is enough to trip the filter.Maybe that's the word that's tripping it, yeah, but we're trying to understand… We thought maybe because it's placed behind “successfully”, you could string the letters (without symbols or spaces) together to form a terrorism group name that would understandably be in the filter, but it turns out italicizing “is” why italicized “is” gets parsed like that. It doesn't have to do with the placement between other words (“child” and “successfully”), because italicizing “is” anywhere is enough to trip the filter. Sorry
OK this is super funny. The filter tripped on italicized “is” but this just happened to me too, in the same topic lol. didn't trip on “this is”. I mean, good, because “this is” is surely something you say a lot, but that's just exactly the letters for the terrorism group separated only by a space.
I wrote(…) whereas recognising and validating/affirming my disability IS. this is why (…)except at first, “is” was italicised with bold and not capitalised.
I went through the entire post trying to remove disability-related words that I thought might be too harsh for Scratch before remembering this topic and it immediately posted after I removed the italics on “is”
Edit: “is is” isn't enough to trip the filter either, so I'm really thinking that's a red herring.
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
isOK this is a mystery.
? I don't have a problem with it
I feel like we're reverse engineering a rather complex regular expression completely blindly LOL
Places it's OK: at the start of a post; at the start of a [quote]
Places it's not OK: at the end of a post; surrounded by words??
Help.
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
I normally can’t, too. Lemme try
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It’s a problem with [i]+is, the closing brackets works fine.
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It’s a problem with [i]+is, the closing brackets works fine.
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Why can't I italicize the word "is"?
I can confirm that when I comment “<span class=“bb-italic”>is</span>” (with normal ASCII quote marks, not smart quotes) on the main site, I get muted.(#7)The raw HTML is (though the forums replace the quotes in ajskateboarder's post with smart quotes and that makes it not trigger if you just copy and paste it in). I think Paddle2See once posted that he tested it with the BBCode on the their filter testing site and it did not trigger for them, but I can't find that post.
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