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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
I'm assuming the “beats” input changes the speed at which it is sung? Although that isn't exactly the most musically pleasing prospect, it seems like a pretty good way to implement melody. It doesn't need to be complex because low floor and all that, plus the other music blocks aren't complex.sing [skibidi] at note (62 v) for (0.5) beats
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
Beats likely refers to a beat, as described in sheet music (which in most common cases, refers to a quarter note, but can refer to other notes such as eigth notes when the time signature is to be changed)I'm assuming the “beats” input changes the speed at which it is sung? Although that isn't exactly the most musically pleasing prospect, it seems like a pretty good way to implement melody. It doesn't need to be complex because low floor and all that, plus the other music blocks aren't complex.sing [skibidi] at note (62 v) for (0.5) beats
If this was added, a “tempo” block for the TTS would likely be required, and so would a “time signature” block (though its also viable to simply have it stay on 4/4 times)
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
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Ehh… I think this would be very buggy to implement. Unless there's a way to tune the voices, it will probably sound very buggy and weird, especially held at long notes. If a software/tool is added to allow tuning, it would probably be too complicated for Scratch just use vocaloid
And where would Scratch get the voices?
Ehh… I think this would be very buggy to implement. Unless there's a way to tune the voices, it will probably sound very buggy and weird, especially held at long notes. If a software/tool is added to allow tuning, it would probably be too complicated for Scratch just use vocaloid
And where would Scratch get the voices?
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
yeah I know about beats and stuff lol I'm a musician.Beats likely refers to a beat, as described in sheet music (which in most common cases, refers to a quarter note, but can refer to other notes such as eigth notes when the time signature is to be changed)I'm assuming the “beats” input changes the speed at which it is sung? Although that isn't exactly the most musically pleasing prospect, it seems like a pretty good way to implement melody. It doesn't need to be complex because low floor and all that, plus the other music blocks aren't complex. sing at note (62 v) for (0.5) beats
If this was added, a “tempo” block for the TTS would likely be required, and so would a “time signature” block (though its also viable to simply have it stay on 4/4 times)
I guess to clarify what I meant was if it would play it slower or faster for the number of beats you input.
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get games off the trending music category!
a cool thing I found: if you type “(c)” it will show up as ©
I decided to stop using the support convention
give me song suggestions on my profile (I mostly listen to rock and metal)
when tuned to [drop c v] :: hat events
repeat until <drenched in sweat? :: sensing>
blast some epic [system of a down v] riffs :: motion
end
iiii];)
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
I would assume it'd just work as straightfoward as it seems, which is, 1 beat would play for the duration of 1 beat in reference to the tempo, 0.5 beats would play for half that time, E.T.Cyeah I know about beats and stuff lol I'm a musician. snip-
I guess to clarify what I meant was if it would play it slower or faster for the number of beats you input.
- Xzillox
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
idk if we're on the same page here lolI would assume it'd just work as straightfoward as it seems, which is, 1 beat would play for the duration of 1 beat in reference to the tempo, 0.5 beats would play for half that time, E.T.C yeah I know about beats and stuff lol I'm a musician.
I guess to clarify what I meant was if it would play it slower or faster for the number of beats you input.
basically I was just wondering how a different number of beats would affect how the singing sounds, since that would be kinda tricky with an actual voice. unless I'm misremembering how the music extension works.
edit: yeah I forgot how it works lmao. I thought it extended the note for the length of the beats. I'll edit my original post.
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get games off the trending music category!
a cool thing I found: if you type “(c)” it will show up as ©
I decided to stop using the support convention
give me song suggestions on my profile (I mostly listen to rock and metal)
when tuned to [drop c v] :: hat events
repeat until <drenched in sweat? :: sensing>
blast some epic [system of a down v] riffs :: motion
end
iiii];)
- LP372
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
Yeah, that might be usefulBecause you'd be singing, and you'd need to know what notes you're singingSo why does there need to be sheet music as opposed to a block that just says the following? Suppose I sing Hi! in the note of E flat and I sing it in the note of E sharp, they sound different. How would it know what the melody is without some sheet music. Or other solution.sing [skibidi] at note (62 v) for (0.5) beats
Where does the sheet music come in?
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
I assume it would be similar to ok which engine will it use to create a “singer” voiceTalk It! by Microsoft.
That, or the singing Macintosh voices included in its TTS program.
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
Ai isn’t good enough to do stuff like this yet.
What you are seeing when ai “sings” a song is just it modifying someone else’ voice like a voice changer
Not sure if Amazon uses AI or phonetic samples but AFAIK using phonetic samples for this wouldn’t work
What you are seeing when ai “sings” a song is just it modifying someone else’ voice like a voice changer
Not sure if Amazon uses AI or phonetic samples but AFAIK using phonetic samples for this wouldn’t work
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- MythosLore
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
Why would a “time signature” block be needed? One beat in 4/4 is the same as one beat in 3/4.Beats likely refers to a beat, as described in sheet music (which in most common cases, refers to a quarter note, but can refer to other notes such as eigth notes when the time signature is to be changed)I'm assuming the “beats” input changes the speed at which it is sung? Although that isn't exactly the most musically pleasing prospect, it seems like a pretty good way to implement melody. It doesn't need to be complex because low floor and all that, plus the other music blocks aren't complex.sing [skibidi] at note (62 v) for (0.5) beats
If this was added, a “tempo” block for the TTS would likely be required, and so would a “time signature” block (though its also viable to simply have it stay on 4/4 times)
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
You mean you want this?
but I don't think this is a good idea as you should probably just record some singing using some ai voice generator
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but I don't think this is a good idea as you should probably just record some singing using some ai voice generator
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- Xzillox
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
hang on a second-
Why not just record yourself singing? Even if you're a bad singer, it probably won't be much worse or probably better than whatever the text-to-singing comes up with.
Why not just record yourself singing? Even if you're a bad singer, it probably won't be much worse or probably better than whatever the text-to-singing comes up with.
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get games off the trending music category!
a cool thing I found: if you type “(c)” it will show up as ©
I decided to stop using the support convention
give me song suggestions on my profile (I mostly listen to rock and metal)
when tuned to [drop c v] :: hat events
repeat until <drenched in sweat? :: sensing>
blast some epic [system of a down v] riffs :: motion
end
iiii];)
- MythosLore
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
What if you don’t want to share your voice on Scratch, or what if your voice is a baritone and you want a soprano voice to sing your song? hang on a second-
Why not just record yourself singing? Even if you're a bad singer, it probably won't be much worse or probably better than whatever the text-to-singing comes up with.
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/11/What if you don’t want to share your voice on Scratch, or what if your voice is a baritone and you want a soprano voice to sing your song? hang on a second-
Why not just record yourself singing? Even if you're a bad singer, it probably won't be much worse or probably better than whatever the text-to-singing comes up with.
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
hang on a second-
Why not just record yourself singing? Even if you're a bad singer, it probably won't be much worse or probably better than whatever the text-to-singing comes up with.
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/11/If we assume that this suggestion were implemented and worked perfectly, it would be much easier to use than either of these solutions.
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
i don't want to reveal my voice hang on a second-
Why not just record yourself singing? Even if you're a bad singer, it probably won't be much worse or probably better than whatever the text-to-singing comes up with.
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
True, but that's a pretty big assumption.hang on a second-
Why not just record yourself singing? Even if you're a bad singer, it probably won't be much worse or probably better than whatever the text-to-singing comes up with.https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/11/If we assume that this suggestion were implemented and worked perfectly, it would be much easier to use than either of these solutions.
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get games off the trending music category!
a cool thing I found: if you type “(c)” it will show up as ©
I decided to stop using the support convention
give me song suggestions on my profile (I mostly listen to rock and metal)
when tuned to [drop c v] :: hat events
repeat until <drenched in sweat? :: sensing>
blast some epic [system of a down v] riffs :: motion
end
iiii];)
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
yeah, but ST have not tried it yetTrue, but that's a pretty big assumption.hang on a second-
Why not just record yourself singing? Even if you're a bad singer, it probably won't be much worse or probably better than whatever the text-to-singing comes up with.https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/11/If we assume that this suggestion were implemented and worked perfectly, it would be much easier to use than either of these solutions.
- gilbert_given_189
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Male and Female 'singer' voices in the speech section
I'm not sure if the speech API on AWS allows tonal input, but even if they do, I see problems on this suggestion:
- When you run a speech block with new configurations for the first time, it takes a while before the speech is played. That's because the blocks gets the speech audio on the fly, then caches it for later. This could impose a problem for something where timing is absolutely necessary.
We could mitigate this by getting the speeches before it's being run, but I can't imagine the amount of unused requests of speeches from this… - How would we handle multi-syllable words, that has different tones on different syllables? Do we:
a. try to sound them:sing [day] at note (78 v) for (1) beats :: extension
b. use hyphens to notate that the word is split into different syllables (this also means there's a “lookahead” between blocks)
sing [zee] at note (75 v) for (1) beats :: extension // not *see, since the <s> in <Daisy> is voiced (spoken like Z)
sing [day] at note (71 v) for (1) beats :: extension
sing [zee] at note (66 v) for (1) beats :: extension // ditto
sing [give] at note (68 v) for (0.333) beats :: extension
sing [me] at note (70 v) for (0.333) beats :: extension
sing [your] at note (71 v) for (0.333) beats :: extension
sing [en] at note (68 v) for (0.666) beats :: extension // en [ˈɛn] is close enough to the first syllable of answer [ˈænsɚ]
sing [sir] at note (71 v) for (0.333) beats :: extension // so is [sˈɜː]
sing [do] at note (66 v) for (2) beats :: extensionsing [dai-] at note (78 v) for (1) beats :: extension
c. Defenestrate this English spelling nonsense and use something like X-SAMPA or the IPA for the lyrics
sing [-sy] at note (75 v) for (1) beats :: extension
sing [dai-] at note (71 v) for (1) beats :: extension
sing [-sy] at note (66 v) for (1) beats :: extension
sing [give] at note (68 v) for (0.333) beats :: extension
sing [me] at note (70 v) for (0.333) beats :: extension
sing [your] at note (71 v) for (0.333) beats :: extension
sing [an-] at note (68 v) for (0.666) beats :: extension
sing [-swer] at note (71 v) for (0.333) beats :: extension
sing [do] at note (66 v) for (2) beats :: extensionsing [d'eI] at note (78 v) for (1) beats :: extension
sing [zi] at note (75 v) for (1) beats :: extension
sing [d'eI] at note (71 v) for (1) beats :: extension
sing [zi] at note (66 v) for (1) beats :: extension
sing [g'Iv] at note (68 v) for (0.333) beats :: extension
sing [m'i:] at note (70 v) for (0.333) beats :: extension
sing [j'U@] at note (71 v) for (0.333) beats :: extension
sing [\{n] at note (68 v) for (0.666) beats :: extension
sing [s3] at note (71 v) for (0.333) beats :: extension
sing [d'u:] at note (66 v) for (2) beats :: extension - How would we handle edge cases like “singing” a sentence or two over a short period of time?
sing [A nutshell is the outer shell of a nut.] at note (127 v) for (0.001) beats :: extension
Or singing for a very long time?sing [aaaaaa] at note (0 v) for (99999) beats :: extension
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