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chippysmall4
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Storage Box - Reworked Backpack

Storage Box - Reworked Backpack

Originally wrote:

1. Why “Asset Storage”
The current name, “backpack” is undescriptive of the usage, the only similarly that the word “backpack” and the backpack are that they both store items. The name “asset storage” is far more descriptive. How? What is stored in the backpack? Assets. Assets are stored in the asset storage. Why does it need to be Descriptive? Because the backpack is not commonly discussed, and the first time Scratchers see it, they will most likely see the name.

2. How would it be different?
It would occupy more space than the current backpack and scroll vertically, it would also resemble the costume library.
It would have a different method of selection and deletion of items from the asset storage, buttons in the corner of the selected sprite will be used. The asset storage could also store individual scripts. On clicking the add asset button, the asset storage window would close and you would be able to select a sprite to place the costume or music file, for sprites, they would be added to the project instantly, without closing the asset storage window. As for the scripts feature, the name of the script in the backpack could be : 1. Custom selected, with an optional “name this script” popup window. Or 2. The name would be the name of the first block in the script. The second one is more likely to be added, as well as being the default if the script is not named.

3. What Would It Improve?
The current backpack is hard to navigate and use, the asset storage would fix this. The larger size would make it easier to navigate and use. As stated above, “backpack” is undescriptive, the asset storage would fix this too.

4. What Would It Look Like
Open -

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Note : There is a suggestion suggesting a backpack resize, this is suggesting an full reworking, it is not a duplicate.
Note2 : The name may remain backpack depending on the ST's choice. ( pls don't post about the name, I'll respond with a quote of someone else.)

Last edited by chippysmall4 (April 2, 2024 04:25:53)


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backpack was meant to be easy to understand. Assets, would be, definitely more confusing than backpack.


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hydrofungus wrote:

backpack was meant to be easy to understand. Assets, would be, definitely more confusing than backpack.
The backpack just stores assets? You may have understood it wrong… It is far more easy to understand with a new name, as some scratchers may think a backpack is something else.

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plantskym2 wrote:

hydrofungus wrote:

backpack was meant to be easy to understand. Assets, would be, definitely more confusing than backpack.
The backpack just stores assets? You may have understood it wrong… It is far more easy to understand with a new name, as some scratchers may think a backpack is something else.
…. Like what?
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Will the Asset Storage crash from big files


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gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:

Will the Asset Storage crash from big files
it's a resize with cdelete and rename

Last edited by among_us1w2 (March 19, 2024 12:05:23)


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Yes, because 8 year olds will most definitely understand “asset storage” better than backpack.

No support.

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starlightsparker wrote:

Yes, because 8 year olds will most definitely understand “asset storage” better than backpack.

No support.
only because of that??

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Perhaps it could still be named backpack but have all of the other features you mention? although I like the name asset storage I feel like it would be less confusing for younger users if it was just backpack

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I support, just keep the name “backpack.” Could there at least be tabs to organize (that say stuff like Scripts, sprites costumes, all) it though?

edit: found a topic for the tabs in backpack though

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chippysmall4 wrote:

1. Why “Asset Storage”
The current name, “backpack” is undescriptive of the usage, the only similarly that the word “backpack” and the backpack are that they both store items. The name “asset storage” is far more descriptive. How? What is stored in the backpack? Assets. Assets are stored in the asset storage. Why does it need to be Descriptive? Because the backpack is not commonly discussed, and the first time Scratchers see it, they will most likely see the name.
I'm pretty sure it was called “Backpack” to act as a metaphor, like how “folders” are a metaphor for folders in an office cabinet, and how a “desktop” is a metaphor for your table. A backpack is something most people are familiar with, and relates a lot to Scratch's asset backpack, with how you can keep stuff in it and take it wherever. Not everyone is going to understand what an asset is (and no, it shouldn't have to be Googled) or where this “asset storage” can be used, so “backpack” is a more familiar term to use, given nearly everyone using Scratch is/were a school student. I think a better way to familiarize Scratchers with the backpack rather than calling it “asset storage” would be to give some visual indicators for first-time users with pointy arrows and stuff, but I'm waffling at this point so goodbye

Last edited by ajskateboarder (March 21, 2024 11:51:34)

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I don't support #1 (as others have pointed out, a lot of people don't know what assets are), but #2 sounds really good.

Maybe to avoid confusion over the name “backpack”, there could be something like this suggestion?



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chippysmall4 wrote:

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the_awsome_penguinja wrote:

I support, just keep the name “backpack.” Could there at least be tabs to organize (that say stuff like Scripts, sprites costumes, all) it though?

edit: found a topic for the tabs in backpack though

MagicCoder330 wrote:

Perhaps it could still be named backpack but have all of the other features you mention? although I like the name asset storage I feel like it would be less confusing for younger users if it was just backpack

starlightsparker wrote:

Yes, because 8 year olds will most definitely understand “asset storage” better than backpack.

No support.

ajskateboarder wrote:

chippysmall4 wrote:

1. Why “Asset Storage”
The current name, “backpack” is undescriptive of the usage, the only similarly that the word “backpack” and the backpack are that they both store items. The name “asset storage” is far more descriptive. How? What is stored in the backpack? Assets. Assets are stored in the asset storage. Why does it need to be Descriptive? Because the backpack is not commonly discussed, and the first time Scratchers see it, they will most likely see the name.
I'm pretty sure it was called “Backpack” to act as a metaphor, like how “folders” are a metaphor for folders in an office cabinet, and how a “desktop” is a metaphor for your table. A backpack is something most people are familiar with, and relates a lot to Scratch's asset backpack, with how you can keep stuff in it and take it wherever. Not everyone is going to understand what an asset is (and no, it shouldn't have to be Googled) or where this “asset storage” can be used, so “backpack” is a more familiar term to use, given nearly everyone using Scratch is/were a school student. I think a better way to familiarize Scratchers with the backpack rather than calling it “asset storage” would be to give some visual indicators for first-time users with pointy arrows and stuff, but I'm waffling at this point so goodbye

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among_us1w2 wrote:

starlightsparker wrote:

Yes, because 8 year olds will most definitely understand “asset storage” better than backpack.

No support.
only because of that??
It's a legitimate reason and one that the Scratch Team would likely consider heavily. It makes sense: you put things into a backpack, then you take them out of the backpack when you want to use them later.

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Za-Chary wrote:

among_us1w2 wrote:

starlightsparker wrote:

Yes, because 8 year olds will most definitely understand “asset storage” better than backpack.

No support.
only because of that??
It's a legitimate reason and one that the Scratch Team would likely consider heavily. It makes sense: you put things into a backpack, then you take them out of the backpack when you want to use them later.
Exactly. Plus, I do like the idea of an expanded backpack but the name kinda cuts the deal for me. “backpack” is a more fun and easy to understand term, and it’s like, “less serious” in a way that it’s more interesting for kids.

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starlightsparker wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

among_us1w2 wrote:

starlightsparker wrote:

Yes, because 8 year olds will most definitely understand “asset storage” better than backpack.

No support.
only because of that??
It's a legitimate reason and one that the Scratch Team would likely consider heavily. It makes sense: you put things into a backpack, then you take them out of the backpack when you want to use them later.
Exactly. Plus, I do like the idea of an expanded backpack but the name kinda cuts the deal for me. “backpack” is a more fun and easy to understand term, and it’s like, “less serious” in a way that it’s more interesting for kids.
Maybe ‘extended backpack’ would be better

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