Change the Scratch Domain

scratchcode1_2_3

No support. If it doesn't need to be changed, why change it? Also, removing the .edu domain would basically make it instantly blocked in hundreds of schools.

mumu245

Scratch is not part of MIT anymore, so it would make sense to have it changed.

Scratch--TheCat

No support. The “.edu” part shows that Scratch is an educational website, and changing the domain to something else will just make Scratch look like an unblocked games website or something else

cookieclickerer33

Ah yes let’s change the url and break literally every single hyperlink

mumu245

cookieclickerer33 wrote:
(#264)
Ah yes let’s change the url and break literally every single hyperlink

Redirects exist.

Steve0Greatness

cookieclickerer33 wrote:
Ah yes let’s change the url and break literally every single hyperlink

Hyperlinks can be hyper-redirected. HTTP has a built in status code that tells the user client that it's a permanent redirect, that being 308 “Permanent Redirect”. I don't think MIT would be apposed to having a domain that is a glorified redirect domain(that I don't think they even host anymore) so that a popular service doesn't break.

Scratch--TheCat wrote:
No support. The “.edu” part shows that Scratch is an educational website, and changing the domain to something else will just make Scratch look like an unblocked games website or something else

Totally, every single Top Level Domain ever is just used for unblocked games.
But really, if a school was going to block Scratch, it wouldn't be because they're using Scratch.org(a domain they already own).

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:
No support. If it doesn't need to be changed, why change it? Also, removing the .edu domain would basically make it instantly blocked in hundreds of schools.

No??? Most schools don't block all .org or .com domains(at least to my knowledge), just look at sites like Google, it uses a .com domain, and yet there probably a single school that blocks it outright. Plus if they do a full blacklist of all .com and .org sites, then there's no reason for them to also allow .edu domains, since they can host basically the same stuff, but are only owned by universities.

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Anyway, I'm probably going to edit the OP to centralize it on Scratch.org. Most of the other domains are kinda silly anyway.

Last edited by Steve0Greatness (Nov. 16, 2023 04:48:46)

gdfsgdfsgdfg

fdreerf wrote:
.ch exists, it is the top-level domain for Switzerland. Scratch is not Swiss, so it doesn't really make sense for an American educational organization to use it.

its called domain hacking
why am I replying to an old post

Last edited by gdfsgdfsgdfg (Nov. 16, 2023 15:49:08)

EngineerRunner

no support, *.org is automatically blocked on a lot of school networks, while *.edu is almost never blocked.

Gamer_Logan819

fdreerf wrote:
johnelr wrote:
Ihatr wrote:
One, I don't want this to be the URL. It's way too long.

Two, why not use the scratch.org domain? It's shorter, owned by the Scratch Team, and would better fit this.
More genius idea: scrat.ch
It's just Scratch but with a genius domain at the end. Not sure if the ch exists tho
.ch exists, it is the top-level domain for Switzerland. Scratch is not Swiss, so it doesn't really make sense for an American educational organization to use it.

YouTu.be is not Belgian but here we are.

Steve0Greatness

EngineerRunner wrote:
no support, *.org is automatically blocked on a lot of school networks, while *.edu is almost never blocked.

I don't personally know of schools that block .org domains by default.

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:
YouTu.be is not Belgian but here we are.

Some governments allow their top level domains to be sold, even if you aren't a citizen there. An example of this is the Indian Ocean(.io), which has it's top level domain available to be bought and sold, even for people outside of this area of the world. I believe this is the case for .be domains, as on it's Wikipedia article it says that there's no restrictions on registration; this is in opposition to .ch domains, which, as seen on it's Wikipedia article, is only available to Cantons.

WindowsAdmin

mumu245 wrote:
(#262)
Scratch is not part of MIT anymore, so it would make sense to have it changed.

Wait WHAT

mumu245

WindowsAdmin wrote:
(#271)
mumu245 wrote:
(#262)
Scratch is not part of MIT anymore, so it would make sense to have it changed.
Wait WHAT

Scratch is no longer of MIT, they do work with them but the Scratch team was separated from MIT.

leahcimto

I agree to changing it to scratch.org, it isn't affiliated with MIT (and hasn't been for quite a bit now) and it is shorter and easier to remember.

Scratch--TheCat wrote:
No support. The “.edu” part shows that Scratch is an educational website, and changing the domain to something else will just make Scratch look like an unblocked games website or something else

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:
No support. If it doesn't need to be changed, why change it? Also, removing the .edu domain would basically make it instantly blocked in hundreds of schools.

The .edu domain is for educational institutions of higher education in the United States. Scratch is not that, it's MIT which has the .edu domain. Plenty of websites, such as google.com, don't use the .edu domain and aren't blocked in schools. If a school blocks everything except .edu then I'm not sure what website's students are going on besides select research hosted on .edu domains.
With 125,059,216 accounts registered, it's very unlikely schools would block Scratch because most of them use it in their curriculum in the first place. Every school IT safety service has a whitelist which Scratch is probably already on.

cookieclickerer33 wrote:
Ah yes let’s change the url and break literally every single hyperlink

As the OP says, paths would be appropriately automatically redirected, like scratch.mit.edu/projects/10000 to scratch.org/projects/10000.

mumu245

leahcimto wrote:
(#273)
With 125,059,216 accounts registered, it's very unlikely schools would block Scratch because most of them use it in their curriculum in the first place. Every school IT safety service has a whitelist which Scratch is probably already on.

We should give one month prior notice and switch during the weekend to avoid disrupting classes.

starlightsparker

No support. scratch still works closely with MIT so its not a big deal that mit is there
and edu declairs that it IS an educational program
also, maybe its just me but .org sounds kinda sus
i dunno i feel like alot of virus websites use that domain.. and lots of schools auto-block that domain

so for the very last time..

if it aint broke dont fix it

Last edited by starlightsparker (Feb. 25, 2024 23:36:53)

MountY_Backup

No support. Scratch is a education website because of that, it obviously has the .edu domain.

mumu245

MountY_Backup wrote:
(#276)
No support. Scratch is a education website because of that, it obviously has the .edu domain.

THE .edu IS FOR SCHOOLS, NOT EDUCATIONAL WEBSITES

gdfsgdfsgdfg

for scratchers that think .edu is for educational websites (its for institutions of high level education not for just educational websites)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.edu

7salad3salad

I don't see a point in doing this right now. I think most people are used to what it is (including myself). I have no clue how easy it is to actually change domains of an entire website the size of Scratch though, so i can't exactly judge this based upon how difficult it would be.

Last edited by 7salad3salad (March 12, 2024 14:06:42)

MagicCoder330

We should just change it to Scratch.Edu, because schools are suspicious of .org and may start blocking it.

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