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MagicCrayon9342
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uwv wrote:

SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

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I can't - as I've told you many times, I want to support old devices.
waaaa waaaaa waaaaaaaaaaa get over it holy *
Supporting old devices is fun and all, but they shouldn't be prioritizing it this heavily.

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SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

Can anyone give a solution that doesn't use JS or SSL?
Modern problems require modern solutions. Use JS and SSL.
I can't - as I've told you many times, I want to support old devices.


your survey uses js so nbd?

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SAVVYSCLUTTER
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bigspeedfpv wrote:

your survey uses js so nbd?
I can't use JS on important parts of my site, which my survey isn't.

Last edited by SAVVYSCLUTTER (May 23, 2023 19:44:08)


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MagicCrayon9342
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SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

bigspeedfpv wrote:

your survey uses js so nbd?
I can't use JS on important parts of my site, which my survey isn't.
Yes you can.

bigspeedfpv
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SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

bigspeedfpv wrote:

your survey uses js so nbd?
I can't use JS on important parts of my site, which my survey isn't.
okay then use a captcha

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ajskateboarder
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SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

bigspeedfpv wrote:

your survey uses js so nbd?
I can't use JS on important parts of my site, which my survey isn't.
I've mentioned solutions already. Just generate an image CAPTCHA and server-validate it, or use rate-limiting (rate-limiting is probably better for your case)
SAVVYSCLUTTER
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ajskateboarder wrote:

SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

bigspeedfpv wrote:

your survey uses js so nbd?
I can't use JS on important parts of my site, which my survey isn't.
I've mentioned solutions already. Just generate an image CAPTCHA and server-validate it, or use rate-limiting (rate-limiting is probably better for your case)
I'll consider rate limiting. I was hoping to block manually-detected hacking and spam like before Secure Network.

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ScratchCatHELLO
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you can’t use SSL? SSL was a thing 28 years ago and makes the web more secure, what are you trying to support?





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ScratchCatHELLO wrote:

you can’t use SSL? SSL was a thing 28 years ago and makes the web more secure, what are you trying to support?
BlackBerry phones, which were sold until 2015, only support TLS 1.0 and most certificates in their native browser have expired.

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MagicCrayon9342
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SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:

you can’t use SSL? SSL was a thing 28 years ago and makes the web more secure, what are you trying to support?
BlackBerry phones, which were sold until 2015, only support TLS 1.0 and most certificates in their native browser have expired.
Yeah, sold until 2015. These aren't devices that anyone will be using day to day. This is an invalid reason to avoid SSL.

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SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:

you can’t use SSL? SSL was a thing 28 years ago and makes the web more secure, what are you trying to support?
BlackBerry phones, which were sold until 2015, only support TLS 1.0 and most certificates in their native browser have expired.

almost nobody uses them (literally less than a tenth of a percent of the US) and everything else from this decade supports it. SSL is a useful security feature and if it would solve your problem, there’s not really a reason not to use it other than to cater to the few people who hate upgrading their tech.

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MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

Yeah, sold until 2015. These aren't devices that anyone will be using day to day. This is an invalid reason to avoid SSL.

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:

almost nobody uses them (literally less than a tenth of a percent of the US) and everything else from this decade supports it. SSL is a useful security feature and if it would solve your problem, there’s not really a reason not to use it other than to cater to the few people who hate upgrading their tech.

SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

My site's for me to use as well as others and must support my devices.

Last edited by SAVVYSCLUTTER (May 24, 2023 05:44:06)


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MagicCrayon9342
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SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

Yeah, sold until 2015. These aren't devices that anyone will be using day to day. This is an invalid reason to avoid SSL.

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:

almost nobody uses them (literally less than a tenth of a percent of the US) and everything else from this decade supports it. SSL is a useful security feature and if it would solve your problem, there’s not really a reason not to use it other than to cater to the few people who hate upgrading their tech.

SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

My site's for me to use as well as others and must support my devices.
You aren't using those devices day to day, right? Also judging by your website, you seem to deny new technology and get mad when technology that is ancient isn't functional anymore. For example. Who cares if 2G and 3G networks go down? While it might be a little sad that the devices don't work on the network, this is fine. The devices themselves will function perfectly with a few applications broken here and there. Who's going to call with a 3G phone anyway?

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MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

You aren't using those devices day to day, right?
My BlackBerry is my main phone - I don't like typing on touchscreens or being tracked. Before you say it's unsecure, read this.

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

The devices themselves will function perfectly with a few applications broken here and there.
A phone that no longer makes calls doesn't ‘function perfectly’.

Last edited by SAVVYSCLUTTER (May 24, 2023 18:15:13)


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MagicCrayon9342
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SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

You aren't using those devices day to day, right?
My BlackBerry is my main phone - I don't like typing on touchscreens or being tracked. Before you say it's unsecure, read this.

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

The devices themselves will function perfectly with a few applications broken here and there.
A phone that no longer makes calls doesn't ‘function perfectly’.
There are plenty of up-to-date smart phones with keyboards. Heck, even a blackberry phone running Android would work. If you don't like being tracked, too bad. Everything will track you.

Last edited by MagicCrayon9342 (May 24, 2023 18:36:35)


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