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lm1996
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1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

I was talking to my family about it over dinner, and I couldn't explain it very well to my brother, so can you explain for me? I can't really describe it.

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-InsanityPlays-
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1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

There's nothing on the wiki, and nobody knows the algorithm.
It's quite a mysterious page.

Also, make sure you mention the famous exploit.

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Jeffalo
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1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

because there's no great way to appeal to everyone without becoming a huge data collection company

the scratch team fixing the ability to view unshared projects is an entirely good thing. it's a shame that it took them so long, but i'm actually incredibly relieved that work is even being done on it.

a project that isn't shared, should never have been visible to anyone but the creator and the scratch team. full stop.

all of these workarounds people are thinking of would never be implemented. they allow for private messaging, which can lead to Really Bad Things. if you want others to be able to see your projects, share it. it's that simple.









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Za-Chary
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1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

Yeah, how are we so sure it's “broken” if we don't even know how it works in the first place?

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lm1996
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1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

Za-Chary wrote:

Yeah, how are we so sure it's “broken” if we don't even know how it works in the first place?
I've seen a lot of suggestions trying to fix it and other people ranting about it.

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fdreerf
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1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

lm1996 wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Yeah, how are we so sure it's “broken” if we don't even know how it works in the first place?
I've seen a lot of suggestions trying to fix it and other people ranting about it.
So? That could be the whole point, we'll just never know.

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pqsgraham
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100+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

Za-Chary wrote:

Yeah, how are we so sure it's “broken” if we don't even know how it works in the first place?

Are you Illuminati?

Ihatr
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

pqsgraham wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Yeah, how are we so sure it's “broken” if we don't even know how it works in the first place?

Are you Illuminati?


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colinmacc
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

Za-Chary wrote:

Yeah, how are we so sure it's “broken” if we don't even know how it works in the first place?

Well it's definitely working differently to how it used to work, so it's either an accidental or deliberate change.

If it's an accidental change, then it's definitely “broken”, if it's a deliberate change, I urge the scratch team to look at the trending pages and the state of some of the projects on them, and ask themselves is the change having the effect they thought it would.



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Super_Scratch_Bros20
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1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

colinmacc wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Yeah, how are we so sure it's “broken” if we don't even know how it works in the first place?

Well it's definitely working differently to how it used to work, so it's either an accidental or deliberate change.

If it's an accidental change, then it's definitely “broken”, if it's a deliberate change, I urge the scratch team to look at the trending pages and the state of some of the projects on them, and ask themselves is the change having the effect they thought it would.



How do you know it's not working properly if we don't know how it works at all?
colinmacc
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1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

colinmacc wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Yeah, how are we so sure it's “broken” if we don't even know how it works in the first place?

Well it's definitely working differently to how it used to work, so it's either an accidental or deliberate change.

If it's an accidental change, then it's definitely “broken”, if it's a deliberate change, I urge the scratch team to look at the trending pages and the state of some of the projects on them, and ask themselves is the change having the effect they thought it would.



How do you know it's not working properly if we don't know how it works at all?

Because before you could always find a recent project if you scroll down enough pages, but now *some* newly released projects with hundreds of views and hearts don't appear at all in the list no matter how far down you scroll. The same projects are searchable if you search by project name, (however they are not appearing in the list in the correct position), but the same projects are NOT searchable by the author's name, when they should be.

All this is new behaviour that wasn't happening a few months ago.

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colinmacc
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

If you want a recent example, try “Piano Guy” by @RokCoder

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portalpower
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1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

colinmacc wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Yeah, how are we so sure it's “broken” if we don't even know how it works in the first place?

Well it's definitely working differently to how it used to work, so it's either an accidental or deliberate change.

If it's an accidental change, then it's definitely “broken”, if it's a deliberate change, I urge the scratch team to look at the trending pages and the state of some of the projects on them, and ask themselves is the change having the effect they thought it would.


I think it was a deliberate change, where now when you reshare a project it resets the share date

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colinmacc
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Why is Trending so broken?

portalpower wrote:

colinmacc wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Yeah, how are we so sure it's “broken” if we don't even know how it works in the first place?

Well it's definitely working differently to how it used to work, so it's either an accidental or deliberate change.

If it's an accidental change, then it's definitely “broken”, if it's a deliberate change, I urge the scratch team to look at the trending pages and the state of some of the projects on them, and ask themselves is the change having the effect they thought it would.


I think it was a deliberate change, where now when you reshare a project it resets the share date

The problems I'm describing aren't about resharing.

Although it is possible they were caused by a poor attempt at solving the resharing issue.

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SlenTheOoof
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93 posts

Why is Trending so broken?

it's mysterious and sometimes doesn't work

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Scratchy697
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1000+ posts

Why is Trending so broken?

Ihatr wrote:

pqsgraham wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Yeah, how are we so sure it's “broken” if we don't even know how it works in the first place?

Are you Illuminati?


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