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- mega_mushroom321
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Scratcher
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why do old games on scratch brake
why do old like idk from 1.0 or 2.0 brack?
when made

now

when made
when green flag clicked
say [hi]

now
when green flag clicked
say [hi]

Last edited by mega_mushroom321 (Feb. 23, 2023 22:21:17)
- GIitchInTheMatrix
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
why do old games on scratch brake
Older projects may depend on blocks that aren’t used anymore.
Last edited by GIitchInTheMatrix (Feb. 23, 2023 22:20:33)
- medians
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
why do old games on scratch brake
I’ve seen these issues:
1. Lists and variables from old projects being hidden
2. List items going on multiple lines.
3. Cloud character limits added.
4. Cloud lists and obsolete blocks removed of functionality
5. Using dropdown tricks or special input tricks
6. Using special keys that now can no longer be detected
7. Cloud data disappearing
8. Using removed extensions
9. How block order is now done
10. Using touching self (used to always be true before 3.0)
11. Audio changing
etc
1. Lists and variables from old projects being hidden
2. List items going on multiple lines.
3. Cloud character limits added.
4. Cloud lists and obsolete blocks removed of functionality
5. Using dropdown tricks or special input tricks
6. Using special keys that now can no longer be detected
7. Cloud data disappearing
8. Using removed extensions
9. How block order is now done
10. Using touching self (used to always be true before 3.0)
11. Audio changing
etc
Last edited by medians (Feb. 23, 2023 22:40:15)
- mega_mushroom321
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Scratcher
54 posts
why do old games on scratch brake
I’ve seen these issues:i have never heard that before
1. Lists and variables from old projects being hidden
2. List items going on multiple lines.
3. Cloud character limits added.
4. Cloud lists and user id being removed.
etc
- medians
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
why do old games on scratch brake
Yeah, just look at the votes like this:I’ve seen these issues:i have never heard that before
1. Lists and variables from old projects being hidden
2. List items going on multiple lines.
3. Cloud character limits added.
4. Cloud lists and user id being removed.
etc
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/183402002/
Got broke by cloud limits being added (same for a lot of cloud lists and a lot of multiplayer games such as Scratcharia), followed by 3.0 completely making it lose all data.
Last edited by medians (Feb. 23, 2023 22:48:18)
- mega_mushroom321
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Scratcher
54 posts
why do old games on scratch brake
ya i vote minecraft it would not count my vote
- Za-Chary
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
why do old games on scratch brake
There are a couple of things I can think of that could cause this. One is naturally “The project creator's code just wasn't good.”
But even aside from that, the online player in Scratch 1.4, I remember, ran projects a little differently than they did in the offline editor. That's why you might see some projects saying “Download so the project works properly.” So the projects that don't seem to run very well online today may have worked perfectly in the 1.4 offline editor, but then “broke” when they were uploaded (even if they were uploaded in Scratch 1.4.)
I also remember a trick that allowed people to use a “1 divided by 0” block to make projects run differently online than in the offline editor. If such projects were posted to the Scratch website, they would now always display the “online version,” and downloading it still shows the “online version.” Here's an example: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1493869/
But even aside from that, the online player in Scratch 1.4, I remember, ran projects a little differently than they did in the offline editor. That's why you might see some projects saying “Download so the project works properly.” So the projects that don't seem to run very well online today may have worked perfectly in the 1.4 offline editor, but then “broke” when they were uploaded (even if they were uploaded in Scratch 1.4.)
I also remember a trick that allowed people to use a “1 divided by 0” block to make projects run differently online than in the offline editor. If such projects were posted to the Scratch website, they would now always display the “online version,” and downloading it still shows the “online version.” Here's an example: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1493869/
- Catscratcher07
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
why do old games on scratch brake
one major problem has been that at some point scratch stopped being able to render straight line sprites.
- Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
why do old games on scratch brake
4. Cloud lists and obsolete blocks removed of functionalityWait, you mean at one time there WERE cloud lists?!
One time I saw this project that seemed to have worked at some point, based on the amount of fame it had gotten, but a piece of code necessary for it to work was just completely missing. I would chalk this up to the creator accidentally dragging something too far to the left, except that it was gone from all the remixes too, multiple of which had thumbnails showing the project working properly. I was actually able to recreate the missing code, but I still found this abundantly strange. I think it may have been caused by 3.0…
Anyways, if you're referring to the projects not functioning as intended, it probably has to do with something someone above me already said. If you're referring to the issue where certain projects crash every time when loaded (which I have seen before, and the creator claimed only happened after 3.0), I have no idea how that happens.
- medians
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
why do old games on scratch brake
Correct.4. Cloud lists and obsolete blocks removed of functionalityWait, you mean at one time there WERE cloud lists?!
Let's take you back to Scratch 2.0 v203.

One time I saw this project that seemed to have worked at some point, based on the amount of fame it had gotten, but a piece of code necessary for it to work was just completely missing. I would chalk this up to the creator accidentally dragging something too far to the left, except that it was gone from all the remixes too, multiple of which had thumbnails showing the project working properly. I was actually able to recreate the missing code, but I still found this abundantly strange. I think it may have been caused by 3.0…Yeah, 3.0 hid blocks (though they can be actually there, but you can't actually see them or remove them since they're gone except they run for some reason, you can tell they run by the green flag lighting up). I've also seen the crash after loading thing LOL, it happened to one of my test projects because I had “NaN” set to the variable by doing something like this:

(it only sets it to nan in 2.0 by the way)
I also saw it on a load of someone's projects too, as well as old projects.
Last edited by medians (Feb. 25, 2023 14:52:37)
- Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
why do old games on scratch brake
Yeah, 3.0 hid blocks (though they can be actually there, but you can't actually see them or remove them since they're gone except they run for some reason, you can tell they run by the green flag lighting up). I've also seen the crash after loading thing LOL, it happened to one of my test projects because I had “NaN” set to the variable by doing something like this:Huh. Interesting. I also have a project that's been affected by code that disappeared after 3.0 but still executes, but in the project I'm talking about, the code is actually gone and neither shows up nor runs.
[snip]
(it only sets it to nan in 2.0 by the way)
I also saw it on a load of someone's projects too, as well as old projects.
If you wanna see the project with the code that doesn't show, but still executes, it's here. Don't mind the actual content of it though it's ancient. I'm still wondering why this particular code chose to disappear, since it seemed completely normal.
- mega_mushroom321
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Scratcher
54 posts
why do old games on scratch brake
and like i vote minecraft and it will not say my vote


- medians
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
why do old games on scratch brake
and like i vote minecraft and it will not say my voteWhat do you mean? Also stop trying to vote on old projects, they likely broke because of the limits that were added and Scratch 3.0. Well this reminds me of the NFEd cloud vote.
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