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DatOneLefty
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bybb wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

bybb wrote:

On Linux? If you use Linux in any way, shape or form, you should know how to not get viruses.
That, and common Linux distros are just designed to help you avoid accidentally installing malware in the first place. A lot of Windows malware isn't necessarily based on actual exploits but on getting people to click stuff like random shady installers from the internet, Microsoft Word documents with macros, …
Linux distros come with a package manager. It has literally all the software you'll ever need. And it's all cryptographically signed by the distro maintainers. You don't go to supershadyforums.ru and misclick an ad that looks like a download button for MegaWindowsProDriverClient.exe…
Linux distros also come with sane init systems (“service manager” or something in windows-speak). You don't install your OS and immediately get 250 cryptically-named Windows services, plus Candy Crush and Xbox Game Center etc etc all starting on boot. There aren't so many places for malware to hook in to start on boot that you literally need a sysinternals tool to find them all. There's one way to start background services (and foreground services like your entire desktop environment).
Overall Linux is just a lot simpler than Windows. I run one of the heavier variants of Linux environments (generic megakernel and GNOME and systemd and lots of gnome extensions - mostly because I'm a noob who wants my machine to look and act like a “classic” windows/mac style desktop environment. It still uses less RAM idling than Windows). But I can tell you what every program that's currently running is doing. There's really nowhere for malware to hide.
Yep. The only thing stopping me from moving from Windows -> Linux full time is software compatibility. Steam Games, Software I've paid big money for, stuff I actively use and is Windows only.
Steam games work on linux tho (with relative ease)


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jseeli
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In our school, the teachers ask us to to presentations. Earlier we used to make charts. But now, all of us do PowerPoint Presentations and present them o the smartborad

Some students use it a good way to sneak music into the school as they put popular songs like Beliver, Alone, Faded etc.

I sometimes get scared that there is a virus in the smartboard as there is no antivirus. And presentations are to be brought in pen drives. So, I have a pen drive which I only connect to my chrome book and never to my windows laptop(You could call that laptop as a desktop PC as we use it by plugging it into a monitor and the battery is pretty much dead.)
bybb
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jseeli wrote:

In our school, the teachers ask us to to presentations. Earlier we used to make charts. But now, all of us do PowerPoint Presentations and present them o the smartborad

Some students use it a good way to sneak music into the school as they put popular songs like Beliver, Alone, Faded etc.

I sometimes get scared that there is a virus in the smartboard as there is no antivirus. And presentations are to be brought in pen drives. So, I have a pen drive which I only connect to my chrome book and never to my windows laptop(You could call that laptop as a desktop PC as we use it by plugging it into a monitor and the battery is pretty much dead.)
My Primary School bought these massive 6 foot touchscreens instead of interactive whiteboards. The screens were designed to not break even if a chair is thrown at them (which the school tested multiple times).
They had one in every room of the school, except the lunch hall.

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jseeli
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bybb wrote:

jseeli wrote:

In our school, the teachers ask us to to presentations. Earlier we used to make charts. But now, all of us do PowerPoint Presentations and present them o the smartborad

Some students use it a good way to sneak music into the school as they put popular songs like Beliver, Alone, Faded etc.

I sometimes get scared that there is a virus in the smartboard as there is no antivirus. And presentations are to be brought in pen drives. So, I have a pen drive which I only connect to my chrome book and never to my windows laptop(You could call that laptop as a desktop PC as we use it by plugging it into a monitor and the battery is pretty much dead.)
My Primary School bought these massive 6 foot touchscreens instead of interactive whiteboards. The screens were designed to not break even if a chair is thrown at them (which the school tested multiple times).
They had one in every room of the school, except the lunch hall.
Our School uses interactive boards with touch screens and not interactive whiteboards. They were installed only last year and all of them have an Internet connection (Ethernet)

Our school says us strictly NOT to touch the board because they are scared students may break it. They say that if they break it, they have to pay for it. So, they punish every student who touches it.

A few days earlier, we had PT and we had to wait a while in our class. The music teacher told us and put some random song (I forgot now). But some boys went and closed the tab and played Marshmello- Alone.

The next day, again we had to wait. So those boys went and played Heathens. But, to their bad luck the teacher caught them and the got scoldings for about 40 mins

Last edited by jseeli (April 11, 2019 13:12:02)

ninjagolloyd
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jseeli wrote:

Plus, I can run Linux apps like Python and vscode with crostini. yayy!)
we just gonna ignore this orr

dont hurt me its joke

bean
herohamp
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ninjagolloyd wrote:

jseeli wrote:

Plus, I can run Linux apps like Python and vscode with crostini. yayy!)
we just gonna ignore this orr

dont hurt me its joke
I love Python, the linux only app. Or VSCode which is completly impossible to run on windows
14152cool
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reading this thread made me realise how good my school's IT was. Decently fast internet, no restrictions, no annoying “how to do <insert extremely simple thing>” classes. Actually, I was cherished at the time for being a scratch wizard, and was allowed to continue development on a large scratch project in place of our normal scratch classes. The file was lost forever as I was unable to further attend the school. I'll bet you it still lives on, permanently embedded in a hard drive in one of the computers.

Annoyingly, my signature was eaten by a small, white dog. How annoying.




jseeli
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14152cool wrote:

reading this thread made me realise how good my school's IT was. Decently fast internet, no restrictions, no annoying “how to do <insert extremely simple thing>” classes. Actually, I was cherished at the time for being a scratch wizard, and was allowed to continue development on a large scratch project in place of our normal scratch classes. The file was lost forever as I was unable to further attend the school. I'll bet you it still lives on, permanently embedded in a hard drive in one of the computers.
So lucky . Our school PCs don’t let us access internet and they don’t even let us change the desktop background or save files on the desktop. The background is like: Top, our school logo and name. Middle, “Log off you PC after use and save your files in D drive” and in the bottom in small letters “We are not responsible for your lost file”. Plus, once I saved a file in my desktop and the next class, it was in a folder called “Student Files”. Also, the teachers want all students be quiet in the lab so they ask us to mute our system. Once, they removed the audio driver so no one can unmute the systems
Thermodynamical
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I must say some of these peoples experiences are awful.

But the district I was in had pretty good IT.
  • File Sharing between schools
  • 1 g/bit symmetric Wi-Fi
  • 1:1 Student-Chromebook Ratio

However, they eventually got very strict. Like extremely strict.
  • Disabled Chrome Themes
  • Disabled Chrome Extensions (except for a few that were on a whitelist. thank goodness it included an adBlocker and Grammarly)
  • Used an extension called TabPilot that allowed for basically full control over a students device (Chromebook and desktop, no iPad support tho)
  • Only allowing school emails to be signed into (They had G-Suite)

The only issue is that all of the above-mentioned items have workarounds if you were using a desktop. All you've got to do is open up a guest window in chrome.

Another completely separate issue is that they gave a handful of computers Administrative Permissions, which is a bad idea because all of the schools in the district are all connected. Which means you can remotely shut down the entire district. All 2,000 student desktops, 1,000 teacher desktops, all 12 file sharing servers, both firewall servers (They had Lightspeed Systems firewall, which required a server for logging requests and such), and all of the estimated 12,000 routers (there is at least one per classroom, and one every 20 or so feet in all of the hallways).

It is just a matter of time before someone takes everything in the district offline. (Except Chromebooks, but without Wi-Fi there basically useless.)


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Wettining
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Thermodynamical wrote:

I must say some of these peoples experiences are awful.

But the district I was in had pretty good IT.
  • File Sharing between schools
  • 1 g/bit symmetric Wi-Fi
  • 1:1 Student-Chromebook Ratio

However, they eventually got very strict. Like extremely strict.
  • Disabled Chrome Themes
  • Disabled Chrome Extensions (except for a few that were on a whitelist. thank goodness it included an adBlocker and Grammarly)
  • Used an extension called TabPilot that allowed for basically full control over a students device (Chromebook and desktop, no iPad support tho)
  • Only allowing school emails to be signed into (They had G-Suite)

The only issue is that all of the above-mentioned items have workarounds if you were using a desktop. All you've got to do is open up a guest window in chrome.

Another completely separate issue is that they gave a handful of computers Administrative Permissions, which is a bad idea because all of the schools in the district are all connected. Which means you can remotely shut down the entire district. All 2,000 student desktops, 1,000 teacher desktops, all 12 file sharing servers, both firewall servers (They had Lightspeed Systems firewall, which required a server for logging requests and such), and all of the estimated 12,000 routers (there is at least one per classroom, and one every 20 or so feet in all of the hallways).

It is just a matter of time before someone takes everything in the district offline. (Except Chromebooks, but without Wi-Fi there basically useless.)
The different districts are almost definitely on different subnets so you probably couldn't shut down *every* computer, just a handful
Meowlithius
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Huh, my school just added uBlock (literally in the hour) to the growing list of extensions they have on these chromebooks.
Weird how everything in it is just open though… (you would think they would somehow block it) But ain't complaining.

If you feel 3.0 has been a bad experience and you have a PS4 please have a look at Dreams.
MegaApuTurkUltra
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Meowlithius wrote:

Huh, my school just added uBlock (literally in the hour) to the growing list of extensions they have on these chromebooks.
Weird how everything in it is just open though… (you would think they would somehow block it) But ain't complaining.
smart move

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infinitytec
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MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

Huh, my school just added uBlock (literally in the hour) to the growing list of extensions they have on these chromebooks.
Weird how everything in it is just open though… (you would think they would somehow block it) But ain't complaining.
smart move
Yep


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bybb
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I remember when my Primary School still had XP a year after 10 came out because they paid big $$$$ (the British ones) for some educational software that wasn't compatible with 7 onwards.
Still makes me wonder how XP, Vista, 7 and 10 (we're going to ignore 8 and 8.1) all should have been fairly backwards compatible but somehow devs managed to make things not work on later versions. AFAIK Primary School has only just updated to 7.

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Meowlithius
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infinitytec wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

Huh, my school just added uBlock (literally in the hour) to the growing list of extensions they have on these chromebooks.
Weird how everything in it is just open though… (you would think they would somehow block it) But ain't complaining.
smart move
Yep
and as soon as i said that, the next day they removed it… (why? There was really nothing wrong with it.)

If you feel 3.0 has been a bad experience and you have a PS4 please have a look at Dreams.
bybb
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Meowlithius wrote:

infinitytec wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

Huh, my school just added uBlock (literally in the hour) to the growing list of extensions they have on these chromebooks.
Weird how everything in it is just open though… (you would think they would somehow block it) But ain't complaining.
smart move
Yep
and as soon as i said that, the next day they removed it… (why? There was really nothing wrong with it.)
That's a bit stupid, adding an Adblock / Tracker Block (a good thing) and then removing it and getting ads and trackers back (a bad thing).
I'll never understand how School IT works.

By the way, at my school, they've finally imposed a 3GB limit on user's storage (probably because I've had 2GB in my P: drive for a few years now)

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xn--cr8h
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School IT

bybb wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

infinitytec wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

Huh, my school just added uBlock (literally in the hour) to the growing list of extensions they have on these chromebooks.
Weird how everything in it is just open though… (you would think they would somehow block it) But ain't complaining.
smart move
Yep
and as soon as i said that, the next day they removed it… (why? There was really nothing wrong with it.)
That's a bit stupid, adding an Adblock / Tracker Block (a good thing) and then removing it and getting ads and trackers back (a bad thing).
I'll never understand how School IT works.
i mean if a student wants to install an adblocker they can do it themselves

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awesome-llama
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bybb wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

infinitytec wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

Huh, my school just added uBlock (literally in the hour) to the growing list of extensions they have on these chromebooks.
Weird how everything in it is just open though… (you would think they would somehow block it) But ain't complaining.
smart move
Yep
and as soon as i said that, the next day they removed it… (why? There was really nothing wrong with it.)
That's a bit stupid, adding an Adblock / Tracker Block (a good thing) and then removing it and getting ads and trackers back (a bad thing).
I'll never understand how School IT works.

By the way, at my school, they've finally imposed a 3GB limit on user's storage (probably because I've had 2GB in my P: drive for a few years now)
At my school, there used to be a limit of 5gb per person. I suppose that was a generous amount - most people never reached the limit. I was the exception, though, I kept quite a bit of stuff that reached the limit, so I used a few flashdrives as well.

One day, the limit disappeared. Suddenly, anyone can store whatever they could fit into the 1tb drive. But no one did. Unlike what would usually happen with people abusing the computer systems, it didn't happen. The drive somehow managed to stay apmost empty. It turns out I own about 15% or something of all the data stored on the drive. Something like 30gb of stuff is mine.

Last edited by awesome-llama (April 20, 2019 00:09:51)



infinitytec
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awesome-llama wrote:

bybb wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

infinitytec wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

Huh, my school just added uBlock (literally in the hour) to the growing list of extensions they have on these chromebooks.
Weird how everything in it is just open though… (you would think they would somehow block it) But ain't complaining.
smart move
Yep
and as soon as i said that, the next day they removed it… (why? There was really nothing wrong with it.)
That's a bit stupid, adding an Adblock / Tracker Block (a good thing) and then removing it and getting ads and trackers back (a bad thing).
I'll never understand how School IT works.

By the way, at my school, they've finally imposed a 3GB limit on user's storage (probably because I've had 2GB in my P: drive for a few years now)
At my school, there used to be a limit of 5gb per person. I suppose that was a generous amount - most people never reached the limit. I was the exception, though, I kept quite a bit of stuff that reached the limit, so I used a few flashdrives as well.

One day, the limit disappeared. Suddenly, anyone can store whatever they could fit into the 1tb drive. But no one did. Unlike what would usually happen with people abusing the computer systems, it didn't happen. The drive somehow managed to stay apmost empty. It turns out I own about 15% or something of all the data stored on the drive. Something like 30gb of stuff is mine.
My school asked students to remove any unnecessary files because their drive was almost full. They then upgraded it to (I think) 1TB.


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IMPULSS
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Our school used to allow us to basically install whatever chrome extensions we wanted, save for proxies and VPNs. Now, they, out of nowhere, blocked all extensions and themes for basically no reason whatsoever.

Luckily, they weren't smart enough to do the same with firefox, so… It doesn't really matter that much anyways

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