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- GamesGuyTV
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Scratcher
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410 Errors
If you don't know what is a 410 error, then
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It appears when you try to visit a deleted user (If the account was deleted by owner), forum topics, censored projects, removed pages
A reason to add this is that it would help tell the difference between non-existent and removed content
Wikipedia wrote:
Indicates that the resource requested is no longer available and will not be available again. This should be used when a resource has been intentionally removed and the resource should be purged. Upon receiving a 410 status code, the client should not request the resource in the future. Clients such as search engines should remove the resource from their indices. Most use cases do not require clients and search engines to purge the resource, and a “404 Not Found” may be used instead.
Choose a mockup image for the error
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Mine: click
ScratchDiogoh: click
It appears when you try to visit a deleted user (If the account was deleted by owner), forum topics, censored projects, removed pages
A reason to add this is that it would help tell the difference between non-existent and removed content
Last edited by GamesGuyTV (June 21, 2018 19:33:28)
- DaEpikDude
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Scratcher
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When do you get this error, though? I've personally never heard about it.
Plus, if most pages just recycle the 404 error instead that'd be fine since we already have a 404 error page.
Plus, if most pages just recycle the 404 error instead that'd be fine since we already have a 404 error page.
- hedgehog_blue
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Scratcher
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We already have an error page that explains the errors perfectly fine.
In fact, this one might actually be harder to understand, because not all nonexisting pages used to exist. Some links never existed, and could be a typo by a person, leading them to think the page they wanted to go to was deleted.
In fact, this one might actually be harder to understand, because not all nonexisting pages used to exist. Some links never existed, and could be a typo by a person, leading them to think the page they wanted to go to was deleted.
- GamesGuyTV
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Scratcher
500+ posts
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We already have an error page that explains the errors perfectly fine.I mean like it only happens when you visit something that use to exist but was permanently removed
In fact, this one might actually be harder to understand, because not all nonexisting pages used to exist. Some links never existed, and could be a typo by a person, leading them to think the page they wanted to go to was deleted.
- GamesGuyTV
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Scratcher
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So, lt, what is your suggestion?A error that appears when you visit something that used to exist but was permanently removed
- dude341
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
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Support, this would help people tell the difference between non-existent and removed content.
But the message should be “Oh noes! It looks like this page has been removed forever. Try searching for something similar here:”
“Requesting” is something the computer does.
But the message should be “Oh noes! It looks like this page has been removed forever. Try searching for something similar here:”
“Requesting” is something the computer does.
- KJRYoshi07
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Scratcher
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No Support. Why would this be useful?
Why does the 60 second rule hate me?
And the sixty second rule hit me again.
Why does the 60 second rule hate me?
And the sixty second rule hit me again.
- GamesGuyTV
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Scratcher
500+ posts
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No Support. Why would this be useful?As Dude341 said, this would help people tell the difference between non-existent and removed content
Why does the 60 second rule hate me?
And the sixty second rule hit me again.
- KJRYoshi07
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
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But why do we need to tell the difference?No Support. Why would this be useful?As Dude341 said, this would help people tell the difference between non-existent and removed content
Why does the 60 second rule hate me?
And the sixty second rule hit me again.
- dude341
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
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But why do we need to tell the difference?Well, if something gives a 404, then it might be something you can visit in the future. If something gives a 410, you know it will never be available and there is no point visiting it.
- kenny2scratch
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Scratcher
500+ posts
410 Errors
According to the RFC spec, 410 is used when the requested resource is known to be unavailable and will be unavailable forever. For things like kaj's profile, (or the profile of any banned user) however, it might be better to say “I don't know what you're talking about” (i.e. a 404) rather than “Oh, that thing! It's gone.”. I recommend keeping it on 404.
- dude341
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
410 Errors
According to the RFC spec, 410 is used when the requested resource is known to be unavailable and will be unavailable forever. For things like kaj's profile, (or the profile of any banned user) however, it might be better to say “I don't know what you're talking about” (i.e. a 404) rather than “Oh, that thing! It's gone.”. I recommend keeping it on 404.Banned users can keep the 404 due to Scratch rules, but other things can 410.
- GamesGuyTV
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Scratcher
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Mockup https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/222613606/Nice I like that I will be using that in my suggestion
- GamesGuyTV
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Scratcher
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AgreedAccording to the RFC spec, 410 is used when the requested resource is known to be unavailable and will be unavailable forever. For things like kaj's profile, (or the profile of any banned user) however, it might be better to say “I don't know what you're talking about” (i.e. a 404) rather than “Oh, that thing! It's gone.”. I recommend keeping it on 404.Banned users can keep the 404 due to Scratch rules, but other things can 410.
- Solmux
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According to the RFC spec, 410 is used when the requested resource is known to be unavailable and will be unavailable forever. For things like kaj's profile, (or the profile of any banned user) however, it might be better to say “I don't know what you're talking about” (i.e. a 404) rather than “Oh, that thing! It's gone.”. I recommend keeping it on 404.^^^
- KJRYoshi07
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But, someone might create a project with the exact same name, so it would be available again.But why do we need to tell the difference?Well, if something gives a 404, then it might be something you can visit in the future. If something gives a 410, you know it will never be available and there is no point visiting it.
Completely forgot projects had codes. *Facepalms*
Last edited by KJRYoshi07 (Aug. 18, 2018 08:57:10)
- dude341
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Scratcher
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No, it wouldn't. It would be on a different page, and it only shares the name, that's it. If it were a copy, it would get taken down because of the guidelines. I don't think you're getting the point here.But, someone might create a project with the exact same name, so it would be available again.But why do we need to tell the difference?Well, if something gives a 404, then it might be something you can visit in the future. If something gives a 410, you know it will never be available and there is no point visiting it.