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- PullJosh
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The great thing about Progressive Web Apps is that they can run while offline! As long as the user has visited at least once (and added the site to their homescreen), all of the important functionality of the page can be cached directly on the user's device to be used at any time (online or not).Why does it have to be from the app store? The website could prompt the users to add the website to their homescreen insteadWhat about when you don't have an internet connection?
- kingof555
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it's easier.when you go to scratch, they tell you to get the app from the app store. when you get the app, it will work better, because it's programmed just for phone.Why does it have to be from the app store? The website could prompt the users to add the website to their homescreen insteadI just meant from the app store.make a mobile app.Since it's made in HTML5, it's already mobile-friendly
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They can turn it into one of those "progressive web apps" so that it looks more like an app people would expect from the App/Play store
- powercon5
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make a mobile app.I believe that they are doing so at some point.
here's concept art for the icon
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- NickyNouse
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The Scratch Team should implement all of the categories as extensions, or as some sort of library or module.I don't know if they'll go that far with extensions. Per the ST, a big reason that they made pen into an extension is because it's more advanced functionality that confuses beginners.
I'm excited that they're implementing pen as an extension because it forces them to make sure extensions have deep enough vm/renderer access to do some awesome stuff–Scratch 3 extensions aren't just for interacting with external stuff like WeDo, they can do things like make sprites have realistic physics!
All that said, they seem to be moving in a more modular direction. I don't know if this has to do with extensions, but part of the reason the ST has Scratch 3 spread out over like 5 repos is because they want to support “microworlds” which are mini versions of scratch that have fewer blocks and are made to do specific things. For example, a music microworld might not even have a stage but have extra music-related blocks. Extensions may come into play with microworlds as well.
- Jonathan50
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Websites can work offline I believe
The great thing about Progressive Web Apps is that they can run while offline! As long as the user has visited at least once (and added the site to their homescreen), all of the important functionality of the page can be cached directly on the user's device to be used at any time (online or not).Oh, great!
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- MinecraftM153
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im feeling incredibly stupid right nowAaaaand what about the over 9000 projects that are 90% pen-powered..?… projects that use the pen extension will automatically load the extension (src)
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- NitroCipher
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The Scratch Team should implement all of the categories as extensions, or as some sort of library or module.I don't know if they'll go that far with extensions. Per the ST, a big reason that they made pen into an extension is because it's more advanced functionality that confuses beginners.
I'm excited that they're implementing pen as an extension because it forces them to make sure extensions have deep enough vm/renderer access to do some awesome stuff–Scratch 3 extensions aren't just for interacting with external stuff like WeDo, they can do things like make sprites have realistic physics!
All that said, they seem to be moving in a more modular direction. I don't know if this has to do with extensions, but part of the reason the ST has Scratch 3 spread out over like 5 repos is because they want to support “microworlds” which are mini versions of scratch that have fewer blocks and are made to do specific things. For example, a music microworld might not even have a stage but have extra music-related blocks. Extensions may come into play with microworlds as well.
It would be nice to see extensions have direct WR access to values of variables among others (IE effects on a sprite)
Along with these “microworlds” it would be nice to see them be able to be completely re-themed (in terms of layout and shape)
Last edited by NitroCipher (Oct. 23, 2017 12:43:28)
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- WolfCat67
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The best part of the pen blocks becoming an extension is that those are already actually in use; so that means that the extensions will have to work well online. I believe this is a step closer to more extensions being added in that can actually be used effectively online.
- dzaima
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Even if they made a scratch app, it would pretty much be a browser inserted in the app. Remaking it “just for phone” would just introduce more bugs, double the work to add a feature and would greatly increase the time until scratch 3.0 is released.it's easier.when you go to scratch, they tell you to get the app from the app store. when you get the app, it will work better, because it's programmed just for phone.Why does it have to be from the app store? The website could prompt the users to add the website to their homescreen insteadI just meant from the app store.make a mobile app.Since it's made in HTML5, it's already mobile-friendly
http://u.cubeupload.com/kingof555/costume1.png
They can turn it into one of those "progressive web apps" so that it looks more like an app people would expect from the App/Play store
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- TheUltimatum
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You are correct. I'm pretty sure they don't want to do that. Though I do hope we desktop users don't end up getting dumped with a stupid electron app.Even if they made a scratch app, it would pretty much be a browser inserted in the app. Remaking it “just for phone” would just introduce more bugs, double the work to add a feature and would greatly increase the time until scratch 3.0 is released.it's easier.when you go to scratch, they tell you to get the app from the app store. when you get the app, it will work better, because it's programmed just for phone.Why does it have to be from the app store? The website could prompt the users to add the website to their homescreen insteadI just meant from the app store.make a mobile app.Since it's made in HTML5, it's already mobile-friendly
http://u.cubeupload.com/kingof555/costume1.png
They can turn it into one of those "progressive web apps" so that it looks more like an app people would expect from the App/Play store
- infinitytec
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New buttons.
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- PullJosh
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New buttons.Those all look great! Really digging the “group” and “ungroup” buttons in particular.
- Sheep_maker
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The entire Scratch cat is erasable!
Also, they've removed the fill tool, so filling paths requires one to select a path and change the fill colour
I'm not sure what the curved and pointed options do for the reshape tool
What could the difference be between the forward/backward buttons and the front/back buttons?
http://i.cubeupload.com/QiTZXY.pngOther than that there's a separate width input for the paint brush, is there a difference between the paint brush and the pen?
New buttons.
Also, they've removed the fill tool, so filling paths requires one to select a path and change the fill colour
I'm not sure what the curved and pointed options do for the reshape tool
What could the difference be between the forward/backward buttons and the front/back buttons?
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- Sheep_maker
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They've added say and think buttons
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- MinecraftM153
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IT'S SOOOOO BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
New buttons.
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- MinecraftM153
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They've added say and think buttonsRemember one forum thread in the “Suggestions” forum of Scratch 2 said that ST should add “shout blocks”?
Maybe they could add that… will they…?
(prototype, also it's terrible since i can't find a way to properly distort rectangles in photoshop :T)
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- Neutronz
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Please bring back fill
Last edited by Neutronz (Oct. 26, 2017 10:14:24)
:)
- 290Scratcher
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The Variable is behind the timer by a lot. The Variable is supposed to run at the same speed as the timer. (In 2.0 it was only behind by a tiny bit)
Yup. The Scratch Cat looks pixelated when you make it bigger using the size blocks.
Well. I guess we don't have any bitmap.
Also what are the Curved and Pointed buttons supposed to do?
Please bring back fillYup. #Bring_it_back_again_again
Also try loading a .png file. The editor messes up
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- dzaima
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The Variable is behind the timer by a lot. The Variable is supposed to run at the same speed as the timer. (In 2.0 it was only behind by a tiny bit)It seems as now scratch enforces waiting 1/30th (or whatever the FPS is gonna be) of a second before repeating a loop again, but in 2.0 that was very confusing and it only waited if some graphics changed (I still don't quite understand it.)
Also what are the Curved and Pointed buttons supposed to do?They currently don't seem to work, but I suspect that they'd change how the point in a shape curves. Make a circle and a rectangle and move around their points - ones points are smooth, but the others - rough and pointed, and my guess is that the button's supposed to change that.
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- DeleteThisAcount
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ooooooo coolThe Variable is behind the timer by a lot. The Variable is supposed to run at the same speed as the timer. (In 2.0 it was only behind by a tiny bit)It seems as now scratch enforces waiting 1/30th (or whatever the FPS is gonna be) of a second before repeating a loop again, but in 2.0 that was very confusing and it only waited if some graphics changed (I still don't quite understand it.)Also what are the Curved and Pointed buttons supposed to do?They currently don't seem to work, but I suspect that they'd change how the point in a shape curves. Make a circle and a rectangle and move around their points - ones points are smooth, but the others - rough and pointed, and my guess is that the button's supposed to change that.
