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JDScratch7
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A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

Auroura_Wolf wrote:

Wait, what? How have I not supported this yet xD Support, it's simple, I understand it and would have understood as a new Scratcher. Don't hide behind ‘Too confusing for New Scratchers!’ as an argument
Cool! I was just reading your siggy on another thread!

Thanks so much!

Last edited by JDScratch7 (July 8, 2017 15:10:06)

Auroura_Wolf
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A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

JDScratch7 wrote:

Auroura_Wolf wrote:

Wait, what? How have I not supported this yet xD Support, it's simple, I understand it and would have understood as a new Scratcher. Don't hide behind ‘Too confusing for New Scratchers!’ as an argument
Cool! I was just reading your siggy on another thread!

Thanks so much!
You're welcome, and yeah, I'm pretty much here there and everywhere on the forums xD

My alt account, where I upload nothing (much like my main account)
I play video games and sometimes do other things. I don't really make anything on Scratch anymore, but I'm relatively active on the Undertale and Deltarune forums.
Click this. Or don't.

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JDScratch7
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A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

Auroura_Wolf wrote:

JDScratch7 wrote:

Auroura_Wolf wrote:

Wait, what? How have I not supported this yet xD Support, it's simple, I understand it and would have understood as a new Scratcher. Don't hide behind ‘Too confusing for New Scratchers!’ as an argument
Cool! I was just reading your siggy on another thread!

Thanks so much!
You're welcome, and yeah, I'm pretty much here there and everywhere on the forums xD
Auroura_Wolf
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A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

You spelt my name wrong in the supporters list. And by that, I mean you put the correct spelling of Aurora, whereas I purposely spell it with an extra u. Am I confusing? Yes. Absolutely

My alt account, where I upload nothing (much like my main account)
I play video games and sometimes do other things. I don't really make anything on Scratch anymore, but I'm relatively active on the Undertale and Deltarune forums.
Click this. Or don't.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut 
aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa
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JDScratch7
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100+ posts

A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

Auroura_Wolf wrote:

You spelt my name wrong in the supporters list. And by that, I mean you put the correct spelling of Aurora, whereas I purposely spell it with an extra u. Am I confusing? Yes. Absolutely
Oh yeah!
JDScratch7
Scratcher
100+ posts

A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

JDScratch7
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100+ posts

A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

JDScratch7
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100+ posts

A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

Charles12310
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A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

Support. This would be very useful for exploring worlds and other sandbox simulator.

when green flag clicked
forever if <[bump v] received? :: events > {
do [bump v] :: operators
} :: control


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JDScratch7
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100+ posts

A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

Charles12310 wrote:

Support. This would be very useful for exploring worlds and other sandbox simulator.

when green flag clicked
forever if <[bump v] received? :: events > {
do [bump v] :: operators
} :: control
Yay!!!

Last edited by JDScratch7 (July 31, 2017 08:37:49)

Carriage
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500+ posts

A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

JDScratch7 wrote:

Blaze349 wrote:

This could be an interesting addition. I don't see how you could work around it with the basic graphical effects.
Thanks for your feedback. I believe this could be similar to the ‘fisheye’ effect block.
But if the sprite was zoomed into or moved the effect would always be centred so it’s slightly different…

Please refer to me as Carry
My website


❝Life is like a tower. Remove one block and the whole thing comes tumbling down. — Carriage
Hey! Carry here. I’m 11, a girl, and I love making animations. Don’t forget to visit my profile! See you soon!
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Imagine, :: #FF0000
Program, :: #FFFF00
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Carriage
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A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

Support! This is what I’ve been trying to tell the ST!

Please refer to me as Carry
My website


❝Life is like a tower. Remove one block and the whole thing comes tumbling down. — Carriage
Hey! Carry here. I’m 11, a girl, and I love making animations. Don’t forget to visit my profile! See you soon!
Scratch! :: #00EDFF
Imagine, :: #FF0000
Program, :: #FFFF00
Share :: #00E300
JDScratch7
Scratcher
100+ posts

A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

Carriage wrote:

Support! This is what I’ve been trying to tell the ST!
Yay!! Thanks so much!
JDScratch7
Scratcher
100+ posts

A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

Well, the mods have checked this, as I just got a note getting told off for calling people who

Auroura_Wolf wrote:

hide behind ‘Too confusing for New Scratchers!’ as an argument
annoying… well, maybe this will be approved one day…



Last edited by JDScratch7 (Aug. 1, 2017 14:47:14)

JDScratch7
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A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

Bump…

EDIT:
PLEASE READ THE BELOW POST FOR An GROUNDBREAKING INTERESTING NEW 3D GAME POSSIBILITY! I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THIS COULD ACTUALLY REVOLUTIONISE 3D GRAPHICS!

Last edited by JDScratch7 (Aug. 3, 2017 19:30:03)

JDScratch7
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100+ posts

A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

I've just realised, this could actually be used to make a 3D game!! (Please note that this is ‘optional’ – this project being confusing isn't a good reason to stop makers of simpler projects using it)

Imagine a driving game like this one (sorry to advertise): https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/158543983/#player

Now imagine that the coder constantly uses the effect on the track throughout the race along with the rest of the mechanics. The effect would be centred on the car. This would give a pretty good 3D racing game look with simple code. Don't believe me? Well, here it is!

forever
Set perspective effect to [10] with viewpoint X: ([x position v] of [Car v]) Y: ([y position v] of [Car v]) :: custom
end

Last edited by JDScratch7 (Aug. 3, 2017 19:26:24)

Carriage
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A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

JDScratch7 wrote:

Maybe when the block right-clicked, there could be a help page like with other blocks.

Every new change seems to be ‘too complicated for scratch’.
Imagine the person who thought of the idea of:
([acos v] of (9))
Did they really think that new scratchers would understand? (Likewise, this has little to do with scratch experience, as I don't understand it)

Perspective is no less complicated than cos, sin, ln, log, etc.

And, anyway, if someone doesn't know how to use it, then they simply don't use it, or they ask for help.
Exactly. On my first account, when I joined I had no idea what these meant:
(() mod (0))

(round ())

([sin v] of (9))

(() / (0))

(() * (0))
and I still don’t, one-and-a-half years later.

Please refer to me as Carry
My website


❝Life is like a tower. Remove one block and the whole thing comes tumbling down. — Carriage
Hey! Carry here. I’m 11, a girl, and I love making animations. Don’t forget to visit my profile! See you soon!
Scratch! :: #00EDFF
Imagine, :: #FF0000
Program, :: #FFFF00
Share :: #00E300
JDScratch7
Scratcher
100+ posts

A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

Carriage wrote:

JDScratch7 wrote:

Maybe when the block right-clicked, there could be a help page like with other blocks.

Every new change seems to be ‘too complicated for scratch’.
Imagine the person who thought of the idea of:
([acos v] of (9))
Did they really think that new scratchers would understand? (Likewise, this has little to do with scratch experience, as I don't understand it)

Perspective is no less complicated than cos, sin, ln, log, etc.

And, anyway, if someone doesn't know how to use it, then they simply don't use it, or they ask for help.
Exactly. On my first account, when I joined I had no idea what these meant:
(() mod (0))

(round ())

([sin v] of (9))

(() / (0))

(() * (0))
and I still don’t, one-and-a-half years later.
Thanks
JDScratch7
Scratcher
100+ posts

A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

Carriage wrote:

JDScratch7 wrote:

Maybe when the block right-clicked, there could be a help page like with other blocks.

Every new change seems to be ‘too complicated for scratch’.
Imagine the person who thought of the idea of:
([acos v] of (9))
Did they really think that new scratchers would understand? (Likewise, this has little to do with scratch experience, as I don't understand it)

Perspective is no less complicated than cos, sin, ln, log, etc.

And, anyway, if someone doesn't know how to use it, then they simply don't use it, or they ask for help.
Exactly. On my first account, when I joined I had no idea what these meant:
(() mod (0))

(round ())

([sin v] of (9))

(() / (0))

(() * (0))
and I still don’t, one-and-a-half years later.
I know what you mean. * and / don't seem particularly useful when you first join Scratch but now, they are really useful (they mean Multiply and Divide, by the way) and I use them loads. Same with Sin. I didn't know what it meant when I joined, and barely do now – but it is useful.
adriel001
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100+ posts

A New Perspective Effect Block -- Not 3D Scratch! A lot simpler... 17 full and semi-supporters, and counting!

JDScratch7 wrote:

Ok. Thanks so much for reading this. Firstly, I want to say that this is not, repeat not a confusing way of creating 3D scratch. Now, on with the new block…

I plan for the block to look like this:
 
set [perspective v] effect to (0) with viewpoint at X:(0) Y:(0) :: looks


All this will do is it will make the part of a sprite closest to the viewpoint largest, and vice versa. This could make an easy background with a slight 3D effect, as in many games.

<["Confusing to new Scratchers"] = [Bad argument]>
as < [Lots of things] are [Confusing to new Scratchers] :: motion> and < [This idea] is [significantly less complicated than others] :: motion> :: sound
There are many functions, like procedures, mathematical functions, messages, logic, etc. which would be just as confusing…

This could greatly improve my, and many others' projects, such as one of mine: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/154658871/

Thank you for reading. I hope you will support me, but in the meantime, SCRATCH ON!!

JDScratch7

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Oh, Scratch Team, if you're there, please could you give me your format for code for fisheye effect, so I could try and replicate it for perspective? Thanks. No problem if you can't.

you are the best for making this suggestion!

when this sprite right clicked
say [PLEASE ADD RIGHT CLICK DETECTION]
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