MouseSkull wrote:

I don't understand one thing.
Will Scratch 3.0 have BOTH kinds of blocks (the current ones and the ScratchJr-like ones) or only one kind/they will be connected in one kind?
Because, you know, I got used to the current blocks and I'd like to still have the possibilities to use them.

Jonathan50 wrote:

MouseSkull wrote:

I don't understand one thing.
Will Scratch 3.0 have BOTH kinds of blocks (the current ones and the ScratchJr-like ones) or only one kind/they will be connected in one kind?
Because, you know, I got used to the current blocks and I'd like to still have the possibilities to use them.

There will be both

the2000 wrote:

Nope. I'm packing up. I'm leaving. NOPE! If they're changing which will ultimately remove all my hard work in 2.0, then I'm leaving. It's good I'm getting Flash 7 in 2017, because NOPE. Also, Flash isn't “dying,” as many describe. Youtube is Flash. Any website you've seen probably uses Flash. There are entire websites made in Flash. (LAWLOLAWL is in Flash. Jonochrome is in Flash. What more must I say? Oh, and I'd consider Newgrounds Scratch, using Flash-developed games.) So Flash is not dying, and if this is what you want, fine. But I'm leaving.

the2000 wrote:

Nope. I'm packing up. I'm leaving. NOPE! If they're changing which will ultimately remove all my hard work in 2.0, then I'm leaving.

It's good I'm getting Flash 7 in 2017, because NOPE. Also, Flash isn't “dying,” as many describe. Youtube is Flash. Any website you've seen probably uses Flash. There are entire websites made in Flash. (LAWLOLAWL is in Flash. Jonochrome is in Flash. What more must I say? Oh, and I'd consider Newgrounds Scratch, using Flash-developed games.) So Flash is not dying, and if this is what you want, fine. But I'm leaving.

Jonathan50 wrote:

Scratch 3.0 will be backwards compatible with Scratch 3.0.

The_Amaru wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

Scratch 3.0 will be backwards compatible with Scratch 3.0.

wut

The_Amaru wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

Scratch 3.0 will be backwards compatible with Scratch 3.0.

wut

Jonathan50 wrote:

the2000 wrote:

Nope. I'm packing up. I'm leaving. NOPE! If they're changing which will ultimately remove all my hard work in 2.0, then I'm leaving.

Scratch 3.0 will be backwards compatible with Scratch 2.0. How many times have I posted that on this topic?

It's good I'm getting Flash 7 in 2017, because NOPE. Also, Flash isn't “dying,” as many describe. Youtube is Flash. Any website you've seen probably uses Flash. There are entire websites made in Flash. (LAWLOLAWL is in Flash. Jonochrome is in Flash. What more must I say? Oh, and I'd consider Newgrounds Scratch, using Flash-developed games.) So Flash is not dying, and if this is what you want, fine. But I'm leaving.

YouTube's old player uses Flash, but the current player doesn't use Flash at all. Because old software still depends on Flash doesn't at all mean it isn't dying.

comp09 wrote:

the2000 wrote:

Nope. I'm packing up. I'm leaving. NOPE! If they're changing which will ultimately remove all my hard work in 2.0, then I'm leaving. It's good I'm getting Flash 7 in 2017, because NOPE. Also, Flash isn't “dying,” as many describe. Youtube is Flash. Any website you've seen probably uses Flash. There are entire websites made in Flash. (LAWLOLAWL is in Flash. Jonochrome is in Flash. What more must I say? Oh, and I'd consider Newgrounds Scratch, using Flash-developed games.) So Flash is not dying, and if this is what you want, fine. But I'm leaving.

This graph begs to differ: https://w3techs.com/technologies/history_overview/client_side_language/all/y

Also, Flash is dying. Chrome is going to start blocking Flash because of security and performance issues. Even Adobe doesn't want you to use Flash anymore. YouTube uses HTML5 and only Flash as a last resort. Flash-only websites are getting extremely rare, and HTML5 games are slowly replacing Flash games. Flash 7 is Macromedia Flash 7, which is from 2004-ish. The Scratch team has already stated that they will retain compatibility with older projects, which means your hard work will not be removed.

the2000 wrote:

comp09 wrote:

the2000 wrote:

Nope. I'm packing up. I'm leaving. NOPE! If they're changing which will ultimately remove all my hard work in 2.0, then I'm leaving. It's good I'm getting Flash 7 in 2017, because NOPE. Also, Flash isn't “dying,” as many describe. Youtube is Flash. Any website you've seen probably uses Flash. There are entire websites made in Flash. (LAWLOLAWL is in Flash. Jonochrome is in Flash. What more must I say? Oh, and I'd consider Newgrounds Scratch, using Flash-developed games.) So Flash is not dying, and if this is what you want, fine. But I'm leaving.

This graph begs to differ: https://w3techs.com/technologies/history_overview/client_side_language/all/y

Also, Flash is dying. Chrome is going to start blocking Flash because of security and performance issues. Even Adobe doesn't want you to use Flash anymore. YouTube uses HTML5 and only Flash as a last resort. Flash-only websites are getting extremely rare, and HTML5 games are slowly replacing Flash games. Flash 7 is Macromedia Flash 7, which is from 2004-ish. The Scratch team has already stated that they will retain compatibility with older projects, which means your hard work will not be removed.

Just because a language isn't “Trendy” or “Popular” doesn't mean I can't use it, and also, look! This is the current height of Flash's usage! It's much higher than Javascript or Silverlight, and only a bit lower than Java. This means that it is used by many high-traffic sites, and those sites should know what they are doing. Also, Javascript is used by many lower-quality sites.
Also, I've tried HTML5, and it's NOTHING like Flash. How is this cross compatible again?

comp09 wrote:

the2000 wrote:

comp09 wrote:

the2000 wrote:

Nope. I'm packing up. I'm leaving. NOPE! If they're changing which will ultimately remove all my hard work in 2.0, then I'm leaving. It's good I'm getting Flash 7 in 2017, because NOPE. Also, Flash isn't “dying,” as many describe. Youtube is Flash. Any website you've seen probably uses Flash. There are entire websites made in Flash. (LAWLOLAWL is in Flash. Jonochrome is in Flash. What more must I say? Oh, and I'd consider Newgrounds Scratch, using Flash-developed games.) So Flash is not dying, and if this is what you want, fine. But I'm leaving.

This graph begs to differ: https://w3techs.com/technologies/history_overview/client_side_language/all/y

Also, Flash is dying. Chrome is going to start blocking Flash because of security and performance issues. Even Adobe doesn't want you to use Flash anymore. YouTube uses HTML5 and only Flash as a last resort. Flash-only websites are getting extremely rare, and HTML5 games are slowly replacing Flash games. Flash 7 is Macromedia Flash 7, which is from 2004-ish. The Scratch team has already stated that they will retain compatibility with older projects, which means your hard work will not be removed.

Just because a language isn't “Trendy” or “Popular” doesn't mean I can't use it, and also, look! This is the current height of Flash's usage! It's much higher than Javascript or Silverlight, and only a bit lower than Java. This means that it is used by many high-traffic sites, and those sites should know what they are doing. Also, Javascript is used by many lower-quality sites.
Also, I've tried HTML5, and it's NOTHING like Flash. How is this cross compatible again?

Sorry, but you're misreading the graph.


HTML5 encompasses a large number of modern technologies, and JavaScript + SVG is very similar to Flash. There are even (rudimentary) automated conversion tools that go from Flash to HTML5!

Oh, and Scratch uses JavaScript to load the Flash player.

just because a language isn't “Trendy” or “Popular” doesn't mean I can't use it

I can't go anywhere without people bashing my opinion. I'm not making you use Flash 7, and I don't need to know how popular Flash is. Even if it's own company dislikes it. If Scratch Team abandons Scratch, would you still use it?

the2000 wrote:

Sorry, but you're misreading my post.

just because a language isn't “Trendy” or “Popular” doesn't mean I can't use it

I can't go anywhere without people bashing my opinion. I'm not making you use Flash 7, and I don't need to know how popular Flash is. Even if it's own company dislikes it. If Scratch Team abandons Scratch, would you still use it?

I like how you cut out this part ^

comp09 wrote:

the2000 wrote:

Sorry, but you're misreading my post.

just because a language isn't “Trendy” or “Popular” doesn't mean I can't use it

I can't go anywhere without people bashing my opinion. I'm not making you use Flash 7, and I don't need to know how popular Flash is. Even if it's own company dislikes it. If Scratch Team abandons Scratch, would you still use it?

I like how you cut out this part ^

I quoted your post before you edited it.

Not using Flash isn't about being not popular, it's because it's old, slow, broken, and insecure! It's also not available on mobile devices simply because it's too slow.

Also, like Donald Trump, I don't repeat myself: the transition to HTML5 WILL BE COMPATIBLE with your existing projects!

Even if it's own company dislikes it. If Scratch Team abandons Scratch, would you still use it?