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veggieman001
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

nathanprocks wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

Does anyone know how I can use a stereo cable like the one in the image previously posted for sound input on my MacBook Pro (13" mid 2012)? I know Mac works with cables that have 4 ‘poles’ like this, but I don't have a cable or adapter or anything like that. I have been using the old desktop computer for recording because it has a microphone input but it takes about 5-10 minutes to apple effects and save projects.
It appears that, after reading the specs, it does not have a line-in jack or a microphone jack so you can't unless you have some sort of USB converter, I think.
I remember reading somewhere that there is an option in System Preferences to allow microphone input, but I also read a lot of forums and discussions that a firmware update remove the option.
That wouldn't make any sense to do that unless you had a port for it, though.

jji7skyline
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

nathanprocks wrote:

Does anyone know how I can use a stereo cable like the one in the image previously posted for sound input on my MacBook Pro (13" mid 2012)? I know Mac works with cables that have 4 ‘poles’ like this, but I don't have a cable or adapter or anything like that. I have been using the old desktop computer for recording because it has a microphone input but it takes about 5-10 minutes to apple effects and save projects.
It's widely believed the 13“ MBP doesn't have a sound input port, but actually, the single 3.5mm port works as both an input and output. If you go to your system preferences, it should be listed at the bottom of the ‘Sound’ preference pane. Where it says 'Use Audio Port For” - select Audio Input.

I hope that helps
veggieman001
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

jji7skyline wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

Does anyone know how I can use a stereo cable like the one in the image previously posted for sound input on my MacBook Pro (13" mid 2012)? I know Mac works with cables that have 4 ‘poles’ like this, but I don't have a cable or adapter or anything like that. I have been using the old desktop computer for recording because it has a microphone input but it takes about 5-10 minutes to apple effects and save projects.
It's widely believed the 13“ MBP doesn't have a sound input port, but actually, the single 3.5mm port works as both an input and output. If you go to your system preferences, it should be listed at the bottom of the ‘Sound’ preference pane. Where it says 'Use Audio Port For” - select Audio Input.

I hope that helps
Oh, cool. That wasn't listed on Apple's specification.

nathanprocks
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

jji7skyline wrote:

It's widely believed the 13“ MBP doesn't have a sound input port, but actually, the single 3.5mm port works as both an input and output. If you go to your system preferences, it should be listed at the bottom of the ‘Sound’ preference pane. Where it says 'Use Audio Port For” - select Audio Input.

I hope that helps
It isn't there.


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nathanprocks
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

beatlesmusic wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

It's widely believed the 13“ MBP doesn't have a sound input port, but actually, the single 3.5mm port works as both an input and output. If you go to your system preferences, it should be listed at the bottom of the ‘Sound’ preference pane. Where it says 'Use Audio Port For” - select Audio Input.

I hope that helps
It isn't there.
screenshot??? :s

I'm on a Mid 2010 MBP right now and it has that option - maybe later models removed it?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.47.34.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.48.15.png
I read somewhere that a firmware update might have removed the feature. There's gotta be some little hack to get the feature back.


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jji7skyline
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

nathanprocks wrote:

beatlesmusic wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

It's widely believed the 13“ MBP doesn't have a sound input port, but actually, the single 3.5mm port works as both an input and output. If you go to your system preferences, it should be listed at the bottom of the ‘Sound’ preference pane. Where it says 'Use Audio Port For” - select Audio Input.

I hope that helps
It isn't there.
screenshot??? :s

I'm on a Mid 2010 MBP right now and it has that option - maybe later models removed it?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.47.34.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.48.15.png
I read somewhere that a firmware update might have removed the feature. There's gotta be some little hack to get the feature back.
After some research I have found that the macbook pro I am on right now (beatlesmusic is my alt account in case you're really really confused right now), is the mid 2010 version, and the last version to have a combination audio jack that can switch between audio input and output. Therefore since it is the actual hardware that is not supporting audio input rather than some firmware update, I would suggest that the only way to get a 3.5mm input on your MBP is to get a TRRS to TRS input + output splitter cable or a USB sound card.

It's weird that they removed such a useful feature, especially since the new macbook pro retina models have only 1 audio jack.
cocolover76
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

beatlesmusic wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Cool! I think professional remasterers use the original master track though.
Usually, if available. They'll also often use a digital transfer made some years ago. There was one instance on the recent Beatles Past Masters where I believe they didn't have the tape for the original “Love Me Do” or something like that and had to use the cleanest surviving copy of the record? I forget the details.

I transfer audio from tapes and records on occasion; just today I transferred Mindless Self Indulgence's You'll Rebel to Anything. I pretty much just ran it through normalisation, though, because the LP sounds great and there was barely any surface noise (and definitely nowhere near enough to merit the loss in quality).
That's right, the master tape was re-used or something, that's why there's no real stereo mix of the original Love Me Do record.

Make sure you use a high quality AUX cable for the transfer because I find that low quality cables can reduce quality like nothing else. For example, one AUX cable I had actually monofied the sound (must have been a short somewhere in the cable connector or even the cable itself). Most brand name cables are good such as Belkin.

Do you export all the tracks separately?
I am gone but this is an exception

You do not need a high quality cable for transferring cassettes.
I transferred a lot of cassettes for personal use using a cheap cable from AutoZone. They ended up at extremely high quality.

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scratcher7_13
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

I've done some remastering…

Shpongle - Nothing Lasts… But Nothing is Lost (which is unmixed)
Manic Brothers - Komplex
Alan Fitzpatrick - Eyes Wide Open

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scratchisthebest
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cocolover76 wrote:

You do not need a high quality cable for transferring cassettes.
I transferred a lot of cassettes for personal use using a cheap cable from AutoZone. They ended up at extremely high quality.
100% true! Past a certain point, all you're really paying for is the brand.
Same w/ headphones, shoes, etc.

I've had happy fun times with this patch cable I found somewhere. However our house is misgrounded or something so I hear a low frequency buzz in everything

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jji7skyline
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

scratchisthebest wrote:

cocolover76 wrote:

You do not need a high quality cable for transferring cassettes.
I transferred a lot of cassettes for personal use using a cheap cable from AutoZone. They ended up at extremely high quality.
100% true! Past a certain point, all you're really paying for is the brand.
Same w/ headphones, shoes, etc.

I've had happy fun times with this patch cable I found somewhere. However our house is misgrounded or something so I hear a low frequency buzz in everything
Past a certain point, yes there isn't a whole heap of difference, but I'm really picky when it comes to audio quality
nathanprocks
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

jji7skyline wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

beatlesmusic wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

It's widely believed the 13“ MBP doesn't have a sound input port, but actually, the single 3.5mm port works as both an input and output. If you go to your system preferences, it should be listed at the bottom of the ‘Sound’ preference pane. Where it says 'Use Audio Port For” - select Audio Input.

I hope that helps
It isn't there.
screenshot??? :s

I'm on a Mid 2010 MBP right now and it has that option - maybe later models removed it?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.47.34.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.48.15.png
I read somewhere that a firmware update might have removed the feature. There's gotta be some little hack to get the feature back.
After some research I have found that the macbook pro I am on right now (beatlesmusic is my alt account in case you're really really confused right now), is the mid 2010 version, and the last version to have a combination audio jack that can switch between audio input and output. Therefore since it is the actual hardware that is not supporting audio input rather than some firmware update, I would suggest that the only way to get a 3.5mm input on your MBP is to get a TRRS to TRS input + output splitter cable or a USB sound card.

It's weird that they removed such a useful feature, especially since the new macbook pro retina models have only 1 audio jack.
I thought that was you. I won't be able to get anything like that for a while because I am saving my money. I could possibly use our SingStar microphone USB adapter for PlayStation 2 which should work. I don't like using our desktop computer because it is really old and occasionally reboots, probably a hardware fail or something.


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jji7skyline
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

beatlesmusic wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

It's widely believed the 13“ MBP doesn't have a sound input port, but actually, the single 3.5mm port works as both an input and output. If you go to your system preferences, it should be listed at the bottom of the ‘Sound’ preference pane. Where it says 'Use Audio Port For” - select Audio Input.

I hope that helps
It isn't there.
screenshot??? :s

I'm on a Mid 2010 MBP right now and it has that option - maybe later models removed it?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.47.34.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.48.15.png
I read somewhere that a firmware update might have removed the feature. There's gotta be some little hack to get the feature back.
After some research I have found that the macbook pro I am on right now (beatlesmusic is my alt account in case you're really really confused right now), is the mid 2010 version, and the last version to have a combination audio jack that can switch between audio input and output. Therefore since it is the actual hardware that is not supporting audio input rather than some firmware update, I would suggest that the only way to get a 3.5mm input on your MBP is to get a TRRS to TRS input + output splitter cable or a USB sound card.

It's weird that they removed such a useful feature, especially since the new macbook pro retina models have only 1 audio jack.
I thought that was you. I won't be able to get anything like that for a while because I am saving my money. I could possibly use our SingStar microphone USB adapter for PlayStation 2 which should work. I don't like using our desktop computer because it is really old and occasionally reboots, probably a hardware fail or something.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-5mm-Stereo-TRRS-4-Pole-Plug-to-3-5mm-Mic-c-Headset-Jack-iPhone-Audio-Adapter-/291007882890?pt=AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item43c16be68a

Less than $2
nathanprocks
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

jji7skyline wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

beatlesmusic wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

It's widely believed the 13“ MBP doesn't have a sound input port, but actually, the single 3.5mm port works as both an input and output. If you go to your system preferences, it should be listed at the bottom of the ‘Sound’ preference pane. Where it says 'Use Audio Port For” - select Audio Input.

I hope that helps
It isn't there.
screenshot??? :s

I'm on a Mid 2010 MBP right now and it has that option - maybe later models removed it?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.47.34.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.48.15.png
I read somewhere that a firmware update might have removed the feature. There's gotta be some little hack to get the feature back.
After some research I have found that the macbook pro I am on right now (beatlesmusic is my alt account in case you're really really confused right now), is the mid 2010 version, and the last version to have a combination audio jack that can switch between audio input and output. Therefore since it is the actual hardware that is not supporting audio input rather than some firmware update, I would suggest that the only way to get a 3.5mm input on your MBP is to get a TRRS to TRS input + output splitter cable or a USB sound card.

It's weird that they removed such a useful feature, especially since the new macbook pro retina models have only 1 audio jack.
I thought that was you. I won't be able to get anything like that for a while because I am saving my money. I could possibly use our SingStar microphone USB adapter for PlayStation 2 which should work. I don't like using our desktop computer because it is really old and occasionally reboots, probably a hardware fail or something.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-5mm-Stereo-TRRS-4-Pole-Plug-to-3-5mm-Mic-c-Headset-Jack-iPhone-Audio-Adapter-/291007882890?pt=AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item43c16be68a

Less than $2
What about shipping and GST? I have never used eBay before.


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jji7skyline
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

beatlesmusic wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

It's widely believed the 13“ MBP doesn't have a sound input port, but actually, the single 3.5mm port works as both an input and output. If you go to your system preferences, it should be listed at the bottom of the ‘Sound’ preference pane. Where it says 'Use Audio Port For” - select Audio Input.

I hope that helps
It isn't there.
screenshot??? :s

I'm on a Mid 2010 MBP right now and it has that option - maybe later models removed it?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.47.34.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.48.15.png
I read somewhere that a firmware update might have removed the feature. There's gotta be some little hack to get the feature back.
After some research I have found that the macbook pro I am on right now (beatlesmusic is my alt account in case you're really really confused right now), is the mid 2010 version, and the last version to have a combination audio jack that can switch between audio input and output. Therefore since it is the actual hardware that is not supporting audio input rather than some firmware update, I would suggest that the only way to get a 3.5mm input on your MBP is to get a TRRS to TRS input + output splitter cable or a USB sound card.

It's weird that they removed such a useful feature, especially since the new macbook pro retina models have only 1 audio jack.
I thought that was you. I won't be able to get anything like that for a while because I am saving my money. I could possibly use our SingStar microphone USB adapter for PlayStation 2 which should work. I don't like using our desktop computer because it is really old and occasionally reboots, probably a hardware fail or something.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-5mm-Stereo-TRRS-4-Pole-Plug-to-3-5mm-Mic-c-Headset-Jack-iPhone-Audio-Adapter-/291007882890?pt=AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item43c16be68a

Less than $2
What about shipping and GST? I have never used eBay before.
It's free shipping. Seriously, you just pay 1.89 and they send it to you for that price. (Expect a few weeks shipping time though). Ebay is awesome when you want simple stuff like cables or something for really really cheap.
nathanprocks
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

jji7skyline wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

beatlesmusic wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

It's widely believed the 13“ MBP doesn't have a sound input port, but actually, the single 3.5mm port works as both an input and output. If you go to your system preferences, it should be listed at the bottom of the ‘Sound’ preference pane. Where it says 'Use Audio Port For” - select Audio Input.

I hope that helps
It isn't there.
screenshot??? :s

I'm on a Mid 2010 MBP right now and it has that option - maybe later models removed it?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.47.34.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687009/Screenshot%202013-12-07%2020.48.15.png
I read somewhere that a firmware update might have removed the feature. There's gotta be some little hack to get the feature back.
After some research I have found that the macbook pro I am on right now (beatlesmusic is my alt account in case you're really really confused right now), is the mid 2010 version, and the last version to have a combination audio jack that can switch between audio input and output. Therefore since it is the actual hardware that is not supporting audio input rather than some firmware update, I would suggest that the only way to get a 3.5mm input on your MBP is to get a TRRS to TRS input + output splitter cable or a USB sound card.

It's weird that they removed such a useful feature, especially since the new macbook pro retina models have only 1 audio jack.
I thought that was you. I won't be able to get anything like that for a while because I am saving my money. I could possibly use our SingStar microphone USB adapter for PlayStation 2 which should work. I don't like using our desktop computer because it is really old and occasionally reboots, probably a hardware fail or something.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-5mm-Stereo-TRRS-4-Pole-Plug-to-3-5mm-Mic-c-Headset-Jack-iPhone-Audio-Adapter-/291007882890?pt=AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item43c16be68a

Less than $2
What about shipping and GST? I have never used eBay before.
It's free shipping. Seriously, you just pay 1.89 and they send it to you for that price. (Expect a few weeks shipping time though). Ebay is awesome when you want simple stuff like cables or something for really really cheap.
So there's no GST or anything? I really don't feel like buying things right now… and my mum mostly likely wouldn't want to type her payment information at this time.


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jji7skyline
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Remastering cassette tapes (and records)

nathanprocks wrote:

So there's no GST or anything? I really don't feel like buying things right now… and my mum mostly likely wouldn't want to type her payment information at this time.
In Australia, GST doesn't apply to items bought online, as long as it is under a certain price limit (I think it's $1000 or something), so no - there's no GST. I understand, but I hope that you find this information useful in future. A lot of things are available on eBay for under $2.

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