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chacharosie8888
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Anti-spambot suggestion

So, here is my plan for stopping spambots..
1. Add more words to the filter - After further examining these spam accounts, I realized many words made it through the filter. Add more keywords (like hack, cheat, download, phone number, etc.). Though, the filter should not be extremely strict, it should be set off when two or more of those keywords are used in the same sentence. Many skeptical feelings about this, so I will mark it out for now..

2. IP ban them - If the bots are coming from the same PC, it would be very useful to IP ban them, then they will have difficulties granting their bots access to Scratch.

3. CAPTCHA verification for sharing projects - could help prevent spam projects in the future.

Any other suggestions to stop them? I'd love to hear it!
Also, I'd like to know how the Scratch Team currently deals with this issue, are the accounts already IP blocked? Or just deleted?

Last edited by chacharosie8888 (Dec. 6, 2015 17:14:42)

Zekrom01
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Anti-spambot suggestion

1. Make the suggested words to the chat filter less strict. What if I replied to someone like this:
You have to use hacked blocks to access the workaround. Since ST recommends avoiding the use of them, support!
or
To save your project to your computer, you need to download your project. Hope this helps
Support if non-hyperlinked links are banned since those are the ones spambots post.

2. Support, but it can cause other people using the same IP, even if not banned, to be banned on that device.
chacharosie8888
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Anti-spambot suggestion

Zekrom01 wrote:

1. Make the suggested words to the chat filter less strict. What if I replied to someone like this:
You have to use hacked blocks to access the workaround. Since ST recommends avoiding the use of them, support!
or
To save your project to your computer, you need to download your project. Hope this helps
Support if non-hyperlinked links are banned since those are the ones spambots post.

2. Support, but it can cause other people using the same IP, even if not banned, to be banned on that device.
1. Yes, I was thinking like the words “Hack” and “cheat” in the same sentence would set it off, or “download” and “cheat”. Something like that.
2. Yes, but I don't think an honest user is going to be using the same PC as a spambot/hacker person

Edit: I have edited the main post with part of your suggestions. Thank you.

Last edited by chacharosie8888 (Dec. 5, 2015 23:34:55)

PrincessPanda_test_
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Anti-spambot suggestion

1. Um…..

SonicTheHedgehog wrote:

You are can't hack or cheat in the video game.

2. Support.

Zekrom01
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Anti-spambot suggestion

chacharosie8888 wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

1. Make the suggested words to the chat filter less strict. What if I replied to someone like this:
You have to use hacked blocks to access the workaround. Since ST recommends avoiding the use of them, support!
or
To save your project to your computer, you need to download your project. Hope this helps
Support if non-hyperlinked links are banned since those are the ones spambots post.

2. Support, but it can cause other people using the same IP, even if not banned, to be banned on that device.
1. Yes, I was thinking like the words “Hack” and “cheat” in the same sentence would set it off, or “download” and “cheat”. Something like that.
2. Yes, but I don't think an honest user is going to be using the same PC as a spambot/hacker person

Edit: I have edited the main post with part of your suggestions. Thank you.
1. But the detector can't detect a sentence if it can I'd appreci8 it.
2. By accident it may happen. I have seen a case of this happening on scratch.

I was in a rush because I had to get off sorry if this wasn't detailed enough.
DrKat123
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Anti-spambot suggestion

Support for all
Scratch should have a CAPTCHA at the registration page anyway
chacharosie8888
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Anti-spambot suggestion

DrKat123 wrote:

Support for all
Scratch should have a CAPTCHA at the registration page anyway
Great idea, also when sharing projects, I'm going to add that

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

1. Um…..

SonicTheHedgehog wrote:

You are can't hack or cheat in the video game.

2. Support.

That sentence doesn't make sense………?

Zekrom01 wrote:

chacharosie8888 wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

1. Make the suggested words to the chat filter less strict. What if I replied to someone like this:
You have to use hacked blocks to access the workaround. Since ST recommends avoiding the use of them, support!
or
To save your project to your computer, you need to download your project. Hope this helps
Support if non-hyperlinked links are banned since those are the ones spambots post.

2. Support, but it can cause other people using the same IP, even if not banned, to be banned on that device.
1. Yes, I was thinking like the words “Hack” and “cheat” in the same sentence would set it off, or “download” and “cheat”. Something like that.
2. Yes, but I don't think an honest user is going to be using the same PC as a spambot/hacker person

Edit: I have edited the main post with part of your suggestions. Thank you.
1. But the detector can't detect a sentence if it can I'd appreci8 it.
2. By accident it may happen. I have seen a case of this happening on scratch.

I was in a rush because I had to get off sorry if this wasn't detailed enough.
I'm pretty sure it can, because I told paddle about this suggestion and he said that he liked the idea and didn't complain that it was impossible
DrKat123
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Anti-spambot suggestion

The interesting is that even though average bots cannot pass the CAPTCHA, some bots are able to pass it.
Like in my forums, even with a CAPTCHA, spambots still can pass it and spam
chacharosie8888
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DrKat123 wrote:

The interesting is that even though average bots cannot pass the CAPTCHA, some bots are able to pass it.
Like in my forums, even with a CAPTCHA, spambots still can pass it and spam
Interesting…. I see we may be working with Einstein bots (aka smart robots )

Last edited by chacharosie8888 (Dec. 6, 2015 01:21:05)

DrKat123
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Anti-spambot suggestion

chacharosie8888 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

The interesting is that even though average bots cannot pass the CAPTCHA, some bots are able to pass it.
Like in my forums, even with a CAPTCHA, spambots still can pass it and spam
Interesting…. I see we may be working with Einstein bots (aka smart robots )
Thats it! Anti spam bots! they scan for spam in the forums
(Basically bots who scan the forums and profiles for spam bots)
(after rethinking about this this is a bit
IRONIC )

Last edited by DrKat123 (Dec. 6, 2015 01:24:25)

chacharosie8888
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Anti-spambot suggestion

DrKat123 wrote:

chacharosie8888 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

The interesting is that even though average bots cannot pass the CAPTCHA, some bots are able to pass it.
Like in my forums, even with a CAPTCHA, spambots still can pass it and spam
Interesting…. I see we may be working with Einstein bots (aka smart robots )
Thats it! Anti spam bots! they scan for spam in the forums
(Basically bots who scan the forums and profiles for spam bots)
(after rethinking about this this is a bit
IRONIC )
XD, I have nothing else to say, just XD.
DrKat123
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Anti-spambot suggestion

chacharosie8888 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

chacharosie8888 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

The interesting is that even though average bots cannot pass the CAPTCHA, some bots are able to pass it.
Like in my forums, even with a CAPTCHA, spambots still can pass it and spam
Interesting…. I see we may be working with Einstein bots (aka smart robots )
Thats it! Anti spam bots! they scan for spam in the forums
(Basically bots who scan the forums and profiles for spam bots)
(after rethinking about this this is a bit
IRONIC )
XD, I have nothing else to say, just XD.
I notice that some spambots are active when it's night in the US. at that time i'm online. So mods should be more active
and drink a cup of joe
chacharosie8888
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Anti-spambot suggestion

Bump
Nightstormthecat
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Anti-spambot suggestion

DrKat123 wrote:

chacharosie8888 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

The interesting is that even though average bots cannot pass the CAPTCHA, some bots are able to pass it.
Like in my forums, even with a CAPTCHA, spambots still can pass it and spam
Interesting…. I see we may be working with Einstein bots (aka smart robots )
Thats it! Anti spam bots! they scan for spam in the forums
(Basically bots who scan the forums and profiles for spam bots)
(after rethinking about this this is a bit
IRONIC )
So many bots, are you sure humanity won't get sucked into a war between spam-bots and anti-spam-bots?

Last edited by Nightstormthecat (Dec. 6, 2015 16:59:41)

rollercoasterfan
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Anti-spambot suggestion

2. What if a school got IP banned from one kid? That could be a problem.

3. Since I post often on the forums, CAPTCHA's will get annoying. Plus, many bots have easily gotten past CAPTCHA's.
chacharosie8888
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Anti-spambot suggestion

rollercoasterfan wrote:

2. What if a school got IP banned from one kid? That could be a problem.

3. Since I post often on the forums, CAPTCHA's will get annoying. Plus, many bots have easily gotten past CAPTCHA's.
2. Why would they? Schools don't download spambots, unless they do it by accident, but I highly doubt that.

3. How about just projects then?

So is that a no support?
Zekrom01
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Anti-spambot suggestion

Since you changed to suggestion, I'm changing my stance.

2. same as above:

Zekrom01 wrote:

2. By accident it may happen. I have seen a case of this happening on scratch.
But support.

3. ew, capatcha

I wouldn't want to take a verification quiz every time I try to make a post. Semi-support.
rollercoasterfan
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Anti-spambot suggestion

chacharosie8888 wrote:

rollercoasterfan wrote:

2. What if a school got IP banned from one kid? That could be a problem.

3. Since I post often on the forums, CAPTCHA's will get annoying. Plus, many bots have easily gotten past CAPTCHA's.
2. Why would they? Schools don't download spambots, unless they do it by accident, but I highly doubt that.

3. How about just projects then?

So is that a no support?
2. Well, say one kid did something bad or happened to be a spammer. I don't know.

3. Sure, but I don't think any use will come from it.
chacharosie8888
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Anti-spambot suggestion

rollercoasterfan wrote:

chacharosie8888 wrote:

rollercoasterfan wrote:

2. What if a school got IP banned from one kid? That could be a problem.

3. Since I post often on the forums, CAPTCHA's will get annoying. Plus, many bots have easily gotten past CAPTCHA's.
2. Why would they? Schools don't download spambots, unless they do it by accident, but I highly doubt that.

3. How about just projects then?

So is that a no support?
2. Well, say one kid did something bad or happened to be a spammer. I don't know.

3. Sure, but I don't think any use will come from it.
2. This is for spambots not spammers that just say random stuff or advertise projects. Spambots create a bunch of accounts every few days and mass share projects containing 1-800 numbers and downloads (most likely viruses and scam phone numbers). So most likely they are run by adults that are trying to scam people out of their money.
3.Why? It would make it harder for them to mass share projects…?
rollercoasterfan
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chacharosie8888 wrote:

rollercoasterfan wrote:

chacharosie8888 wrote:

rollercoasterfan wrote:

2. What if a school got IP banned from one kid? That could be a problem.

3. Since I post often on the forums, CAPTCHA's will get annoying. Plus, many bots have easily gotten past CAPTCHA's.
2. Why would they? Schools don't download spambots, unless they do it by accident, but I highly doubt that.

3. How about just projects then?

So is that a no support?
2. Well, say one kid did something bad or happened to be a spammer. I don't know.

3. Sure, but I don't think any use will come from it.
2. This is for spambots not spammers that just say random stuff or advertise projects. Spambots create a bunch of accounts every few days and mass share projects containing 1-800 numbers and downloads (most likely viruses and scam phone numbers). So most likely they are run by adults that are trying to scam people out of their money.
3.Why? It would make it harder for them to mass share projects…?
2. True, but it's always possible. What if the adult is running a spam bot but his child is also on Scratch?

3. CAPTCHA's are SUPER easy to get past, and it would just be a nuisance to everyone elser.

Last edited by rollercoasterfan (Dec. 6, 2015 17:30:43)

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