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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
I thought that was 2.0 for a sechttp://snag.gy/1pfBg.jpg
thisandagain pls explain
- NoMod-Programming
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
Nice. I'm currently updating the interface, now that I have most of the bugs sorted out. Can someone thoroughly test out saving and opening projects, though? Right now, I'm not sure custom blocks work so well after the second save.http://snag.gy/1pfBg.jpg
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
RoarVM?Edit: Nevermind… It doesn't work on windows without admin permissions. Has anyone tried running Whiskers or just Scratch 1.4 using
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
I tried opening and closing my square project above - apart from being slow the 1st time - its seems to work relaiably but will test some more.
I did notice that you have introduced new control structures that are not in Scratch 2.0
I'd suggest disabling these until you are out of alpha as they could distract from the concept of a Scratch 2 clone (but programmed in lovely Squeak and not nasty Flash)
But of course - its your baby
Simon
I did notice that you have introduced new control structures that are not in Scratch 2.0
I'd suggest disabling these until you are out of alpha as they could distract from the concept of a Scratch 2 clone (but programmed in lovely Squeak and not nasty Flash)
But of course - its your baby
Simon
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
I might add an option to enable them (they might be disabled by default). That should work I tried opening and closing my square project above - apart from being slow the 1st time - its seems to work relaiably but will test some more.
I did notice that you have introduced new control structures that are not in Scratch 2.0
I'd suggest disabling these until you are out of alpha as they could distract from the concept of a Scratch 2 clone (but programmed in lovely Squeak and not nasty Flash)
But of course - its your baby
Simon
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
Oops
Last edited by andrewjcole (Nov. 15, 2015 02:23:26)
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
Bug report BE image 13th Nov
Pressing X to close window bring up do you want to save dialog - it then saves but doesn't exit
On Win10 and Raspberry Pi
Simon
Pressing X to close window bring up do you want to save dialog - it then saves but doesn't exit
On Win10 and Raspberry Pi
Simon
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
Sounds like the same thing that happens when you click on exit on the 2.0 offline editor! Is it not a bug, instead rather an intended feature!? Bug report BE image 13th Nov
Pressing X to close window bring up do you want to save dialog - it then saves but doesn't exit
On Win10 and Raspberry Pi
Simon
Just kidding.
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
[joking|It's a bug [/joking|Sounds like the same thing that happens when you click on exit on the 2.0 offline editor! Is it not a bug, instead rather an intended feature!? Bug report BE image 13th Nov
Pressing X to close window bring up do you want to save dialog - it then saves but doesn't exit
On Win10 and Raspberry Pi
Simon
Just kidding.
I'll fix it ASAP. That can't be good.
Last edited by NoMod-Programming (Nov. 16, 2015 02:58:27)
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
get windows 10 plsARGHH, don't even get me started on that. I run a Windows 10 OS, on hardware that's meant for Windows XP. The results are NOT good.
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
If I could get my own way, then the only Windows computer in our house would be one running Windows XP on hardware that's meant for Windows 10.get windows 10 plsI run a Windows 10 OS, on hardware that's meant for Windows XP. The results are NOT good.
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
Are you serious?If I could get my own way, then the only Windows computer in our house would be one running Windows XP on hardware that's meant for Windows 10.get windows 10 plsI run a Windows 10 OS, on hardware that's meant for Windows XP. The results are NOT good.
Windows XP is good but Windows 10 is waaay better.
Last edited by Jonathan50 (Nov. 16, 2015 07:25:00)
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
Lets stop the Off-topics please :-)
This a very important thread :-)
Simon
This a very important thread :-)
Simon
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
Use [[]joking] instead of [joking|.[joking|It's a bug [/joking|Sounds like the same thing that happens when you click on exit on the 2.0 offline editor! Is it not a bug, instead rather an intended feature!? Bug report BE image 13th Nov
Pressing X to close window bring up do you want to save dialog - it then saves but doesn't exit
On Win10 and Raspberry Pi
Simon
Just kidding.
I'll fix it ASAP. That can't be good.
EDIT: That renders as [joking].
Last edited by liam48D (Nov. 16, 2015 17:59:44)
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
Ok. I'll use [[]joking]. That will helpUse [[]joking] instead of [joking|.[joking|It's a bug [/joking|Sounds like the same thing that happens when you click on exit on the 2.0 offline editor! Is it not a bug, instead rather an intended feature!? Bug report BE image 13th Nov
Pressing X to close window bring up do you want to save dialog - it then saves but doesn't exit
On Win10 and Raspberry Pi
Simon
Just kidding.
I'll fix it ASAP. That can't be good.
EDIT: That renders as [joking].
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
Slightly off-topic but I think important, a couple of comments earlier in this thread need correcting.
liam48D: Yeah, that's one of the tough things with Squeak.. it's graphics screen is really low definition.
This turns out to be wrong. The resolution of Squeak graphics is exactly the resolution of your display. The bits per pixel is by default the same as your display, though it can be beneficial sometimes to use its ability to use any of 2/4/8/16 or 32 bpp. Now, perhaps you were actually thinking of Scratch, rather than Squeak; the stage size is indeed fairly small but this is purely something decided when it was originally designed. In principle one could make it much larger, though then there is a problem about where to fit the palettes and script area. Unless of course one has a 27" 5K iMac to hand, when pretty much anything fits on the screen.
CatsUnited: Also no vector grahpics. You might be able to have the sound editor, but that could lag quite a bit.
This also turns out to be incorrect. Squeak has had vector graphics for a while now; since around the last century in fact. Take a look at OpenCroquet - in wikipedia for example - or watch a video or two about it on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_luwx3HdtbQ&list=PLE781527A1DD306F4&index=1 is one example.) That's Squeak. Likewise take a look at Terf from 3dicc.com - also Squeak. Or there's Nile/Gezira; watch a video about it at http://tinlizzie.org/~bert/Gezira.mp4
And why would the sound editor lag? Even on the original Pi B with the original plain interpreter VM (rather than the current dynamic translation VM) the Squeak sound editor worked perfectly nicely. Heck, it worked perfectly well on ancient Acorn Risc PC's back in 1996!
liam48D: Yeah, that's one of the tough things with Squeak.. it's graphics screen is really low definition.
This turns out to be wrong. The resolution of Squeak graphics is exactly the resolution of your display. The bits per pixel is by default the same as your display, though it can be beneficial sometimes to use its ability to use any of 2/4/8/16 or 32 bpp. Now, perhaps you were actually thinking of Scratch, rather than Squeak; the stage size is indeed fairly small but this is purely something decided when it was originally designed. In principle one could make it much larger, though then there is a problem about where to fit the palettes and script area. Unless of course one has a 27" 5K iMac to hand, when pretty much anything fits on the screen.
CatsUnited: Also no vector grahpics. You might be able to have the sound editor, but that could lag quite a bit.
This also turns out to be incorrect. Squeak has had vector graphics for a while now; since around the last century in fact. Take a look at OpenCroquet - in wikipedia for example - or watch a video or two about it on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_luwx3HdtbQ&list=PLE781527A1DD306F4&index=1 is one example.) That's Squeak. Likewise take a look at Terf from 3dicc.com - also Squeak. Or there's Nile/Gezira; watch a video about it at http://tinlizzie.org/~bert/Gezira.mp4
And why would the sound editor lag? Even on the original Pi B with the original plain interpreter VM (rather than the current dynamic translation VM) the Squeak sound editor worked perfectly nicely. Heck, it worked perfectly well on ancient Acorn Risc PC's back in 1996!
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
yes. the reason why the squeak graphics display seems low definition, though, it that there is no subpixel antialiasing, which makes everything look low-definition, including text. As for the sound editor, though, that is about halfway implemented and is pretty fast. Slightly off-topic but I think important, a couple of comments earlier in this thread need correcting.
liam48D: Yeah, that's one of the tough things with Squeak.. it's graphics screen is really low definition.
This turns out to be wrong. The resolution of Squeak graphics is exactly the resolution of your display. The bits per pixel is by default the same as your display, though it can be beneficial sometimes to use its ability to use any of 2/4/8/16 or 32 bpp. Now, perhaps you were actually thinking of Scratch, rather than Squeak; the stage size is indeed fairly small but this is purely something decided when it was originally designed. In principle one could make it much larger, though then there is a problem about where to fit the palettes and script area. Unless of course one has a 27" 5K iMac to hand, when pretty much anything fits on the screen.
CatsUnited: Also no vector grahpics. You might be able to have the sound editor, but that could lag quite a bit.
This also turns out to be incorrect. Squeak has had vector graphics for a while now; since around the last century in fact. Take a look at OpenCroquet - in wikipedia for example - or watch a video or two about it on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_luwx3HdtbQ&list=PLE781527A1DD306F4&index=1 is one example.) That's Squeak. Likewise take a look at Terf from 3dicc.com - also Squeak. Or there's Nile/Gezira; watch a video about it at http://tinlizzie.org/~bert/Gezira.mp4
And why would the sound editor lag? Even on the original Pi B with the original plain interpreter VM (rather than the current dynamic translation VM) the Squeak sound editor worked perfectly nicely. Heck, it worked perfectly well on ancient Acorn Risc PC's back in 1996!
also, back to the graphics screen, and more specifically, the stage: I actually got stage resizing to work partly a while back. I just needed the sprites to resize, which I had found a way to do yesterday. Now, I think I could share the code in a few months, after a few tests. This might help in the case of HD screens, where the stage looks TINY.
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
Looks cool!
BTW is it GPLv2 or Scratch Source Code License?
BTW is it GPLv2 or Scratch Source Code License?
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Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices
It's currently under the Looks cool!Scratch Source Code License, but internally, it's BASED off of the GPLv2 license
BTW is it GPLv2 or Scratch Source Code License?
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