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dougqwerty
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

i found a game by @MajesticPie (I forget the name, it was long) that said “EPILEPSY WARNING” and i didn't know what that meant, so i asked my dad and he said not to play that game because it could cause seizures (i don't know what those are, but i was on a train once and a person had a seizure, so i know something about what they are) and i wondered if the Scratch Team (ST) should allow that. what are your thoughts?

PS. the game had lights flashing in random places, which i probably the reason MajesticPie gave the warning

Last edited by dougqwerty (Aug. 28, 2015 15:06:19)

Zekrom01
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

I think they should allow it only if the viewer is warned via title/description.
dougqwerty
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

Zekrom01 wrote:

I think they should allow it only if the viewer is warned via title/description.
it did say that, but at the time i didn't know what that meant
TheAwesomeMaster
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

Games/projects like this with warnings are technically allowed. If the project is intended to cause seizures, then maybe not. If it's too intense for you, then you should probably report it.
Nether_before
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

Zekrom01 wrote:

I think they should allow it only if the viewer is warned via title/description.
^^
As bright flashing colours can only trigger seizures in specific people who probably know what the warning means, I think this is the fairest and safest method.
DownsGameClub
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

Yeah… Warning them would be the safest method. And I think that would be considered NFE.
PrincessPanda_test_
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

A warning is the wisest thing.
dougqwerty
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

Nether_before wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

I think they should allow it only if the viewer is warned via title/description.
^^
As bright flashing colours can only trigger seizures in specific people who probably know what the warning means, I think this is the fairest and safest method.
thank you for agreeing
ChocolatePi
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

Call me uninformed, but can flashing lights on a small project display really cause epileptic seizures?
Zekrom01
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

ChocolatePi wrote:

Call me uninformed, but can flashing lights on a small project display really cause epileptic seizures?
If it's like this:

when green flag clicked
forever

next backdrop // All the backdrops are just different colors
end
then yes.\

(Anything that cycles through colors extremely fast)

Last edited by Zekrom01 (Aug. 28, 2015 14:09:39)

ChocolatePi
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

Zekrom01 wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

Call me uninformed, but can flashing lights on a small project display really cause epileptic seizures?
If it's like this:

when green flag clicked
forever

next backdrop // All the backdrops are just different colors
end
then yes.\

(Anything that cycles through colors extremely fast)
I can't but my finger on it, but it just seems like it wouldn't be possible to cause a seizure through a Scratch project. I guess I'll take your word for it.
Nether_before
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

ChocolatePi wrote:

Call me uninformed, but can flashing lights on a small project display really cause epileptic seizures?
I could be wrong, but I think it's photosensitive epilepsy sufferers who get seizures from that.
dougqwerty
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

my dad told me about a 1950s-ish Japanese anime show that had a lot of flashing lights, and the makers realized that is was giving kids seizures
Zekrom01
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

dougqwerty wrote:

my dad told me about a 1950s-ish Japanese anime show that had a lot of flashing lights, and the makers realized that is was giving kids seizures
you mean pokemon?
Cause one episode sent 700 people to the hospital
dougqwerty
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

Zekrom01 wrote:

dougqwerty wrote:

my dad told me about a 1950s-ish Japanese anime show that had a lot of flashing lights, and the makers realized that is was giving kids seizures
you mean pokemon?
Cause one episode sent 700 people to the hospital
he didn't tell me the name
Nether_before
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

dougqwerty wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

dougqwerty wrote:

my dad told me about a 1950s-ish Japanese anime show that had a lot of flashing lights, and the makers realized that is was giving kids seizures
you mean pokemon?
Cause one episode sent 700 people to the hospital
he didn't tell me the name
It was probably the famous “Dennō Senshi Porygon” episode of the pokemon anime.
Zekrom01
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

Nether_before wrote:

dougqwerty wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

dougqwerty wrote:

my dad told me about a 1950s-ish Japanese anime show that had a lot of flashing lights, and the makers realized that is was giving kids seizures
you mean pokemon?
Cause one episode sent 700 people to the hospital
he didn't tell me the name
It was probably the famous “Dennō Senshi Porygon” episode of the pokemon anime.
That's what I said
fire1201
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

dougqwerty wrote:

i found a game by @MajesticPie (I forget the name, it was long) that said “EPILEPSY WARNING” and i didn't know what that meant, so i asked my dad and he said not to play that game because it could cause seizures (i don't know what those are, but i was on a train once and a person had a seizure, so i know something about what they are) and i wondered if the Scratch Team (ST) should allow that. what are your thoughts?

PS. the game had lights flashing in random places, which i probably the reason MajesticPie gave the warning

@dougqwerty , your dad doesn't know what he is talking about. Unless you have Epilepsy, then it will NOT cause seizures. Epilepsy is a disorder that causes seizures without having an injury in your brain. If you have photosensitive Epilepsy, then you can have a seizure from that. Even if you just had plain Epilepsy without photosensitive Epilepsy, then you will NOT have a seizure from that (I think).
SANDVICHISGOOD
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

fire1201 wrote:

dougqwerty wrote:

i found a game by @MajesticPie (I forget the name, it was long) that said “EPILEPSY WARNING” and i didn't know what that meant, so i asked my dad and he said not to play that game because it could cause seizures (i don't know what those are, but i was on a train once and a person had a seizure, so i know something about what they are) and i wondered if the Scratch Team (ST) should allow that. what are your thoughts?

PS. the game had lights flashing in random places, which i probably the reason MajesticPie gave the warning

@dougqwerty , your dad doesn't know what he is talking about. Unless you have Epilepsy, then it will NOT cause seizures. Epilepsy is a disorder that causes seizures without having an injury in your brain. If you have photosensitive Epilepsy, then you can have a seizure from that. Even if you just had plain Epilepsy without photosensitive Epilepsy, then you will NOT have a seizure from that (I think).
You beat me to that, but yes, that's correct.
On the topic, as long as the project states it can trigger Epilepsy, its fine.
han614698
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Should the ST allow projects that can cause epileptic seizures (projects that contain rapidly flashing lights) ?

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