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mybearworld
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

Note: Please read the topic first and make sure this actually applies before directing the OP of it here.

When you get an idea for a new project, you are probably very excited about it, and therefore want to create a topic about it to announce it. However, when you do this, you are likely to get backlashed, and your topic may even get closed.

Why?

Here is an example topic someone could create in the Advanced Topics.

SuperbSpectacularScratcher wrote:

Hello! I'll make a Scratch Mod called “Glitter”! It will have the following features:
([mybearworld]'s profile picture :: sensing)
(cloud list :: list)
I will make it tomorrow.
You can probably notice the central issue with this - the blocks are very difficult to create. Getting a Scratcher's profile picture wouldn't be hard, you could just use the API, but putting it into a Scratch project is. As the post does not go into any detail of how this would work, it's clear that this wasn't very well thought through. Cloud lists would imply that the person creating the mod has a server on which cloud variables can be stored, on which projects can also be shared, which is also done in a way that would allow advertising in Scratch. Without any further details, this would be impossible to create. Also, it is suggested that this would be made in one day, but has not been made yet. This is way too low of a timeframe.

Issues like these are pretty easily spotted by some people, but they might not be for someone who is excited about their project idea and doesn't really see the problems in their idea. However, this causes people to be pretty unhappy, as they might've actually been very excited for this project, only to realize that it does not exist yet and is also not thought through.

Therefore, it is recommended not to prematurely announce your project ideas to the world. Instead, try making the project - if it goes well, and you have released it so that it's open for everyone to try, then you can make the topic. This also ensures that there is less clutter in the ATs, and only real, currently usable, programs.

This also applies to projects that are made, but not released yet. There's two potential reasonings to do this:
  • The project is mainly done, but there's still some tiny flaw that needs to be fixed. Often, these flaws look much less important than they actually are. What currently looks like three lines of code might require a complete change of the architecture of your program. Of course, this doesn't always happen - but then you can just put those three lines there, and release it.
  • The project is done, but you want to build up hype. The problem with this is that it's very hard to be sure that the project is actually done if you're viewing the topic. The user could actually not have started with their project at all, and just said it's done so they're not redirected to this topic. Or there might be one “tiny” bug that they just forgot to mention (see the point above). This makes people much more skeptical of your project. All in all, if there's an actual thing to try, people will be much more excited than if it's just some words describing what it is.

Last edited by mybearworld (Oct. 7, 2023 14:24:37)


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mybearworld
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

If you have any suggestions to improve this post, please post them here.

Last edited by mybearworld (July 27, 2023 17:49:08)


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EngineerRunner
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

mybearworld wrote:

Instead, try making the project - if it goes well, then you can make the project.
words for life really. /s
i think it's supposed to say
then you can make the topic.

Last edited by EngineerRunner (July 27, 2023 19:01:06)


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mybearworld
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

EngineerRunner wrote:

(#3)

mybearworld wrote:

Instead, try making the project - if it goes well, then you can make the project.
words for life really. /s
i think it's supposed to say
then you can make the topic.
Thank you, that's true.

Last edited by mybearworld (July 27, 2023 19:03:15)


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Redstone1080
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1000+ posts

Please don't announce projects before you release them.

You should add that if you're itching to create a topic, at least get a prototype done. That's what I did with Snazzle lol

const juniper = programmer && musician;
// my pronouns are she/her
// i am trans and bi :P
// you can call me june or juni for short but i prefer juniper
python version:
juniper = programmer and musician
# my pronouns are she/her
# i am trans and bi :P
# you can call me june or juni for short but i prefer juniper
NFlex23
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

Very nice! I would suggest removing the “actually” marked below:

mybearworld wrote:

recommended not to actually prematurely announce

Help improve the Advanced Topics (Really!)
Before you create a topic:
Always search for duplicates or other similar topics before making an umbrella topic, e.g., “The Mac Topic”.
  • Is it about something you are planning on making but haven't made yet? If so, please wait to post until you have created a working prototype. This is a key factor to keeping the ATs as clean as possible.
  • The ATs aren't technical support. It is perfectly valid to ask questions about things related to programming, but not issues with external websites, apps, or devices. Most sites have their own support system; try asking there!
  • Is it related to something you are making in Scratch? (This includes OSes and other Scratch projects) If so, please post in Collaboration, Show and Tell, or another similar forum.
  • Is your topic questionably “advanced”? Try browsing the other forums to see if your topic fits better in one of those.
  • Issues with Scratch itself should be put in Bugs and Glitches.
Before you post: Is what you're posting likely to start an argument or derail the thread (e.g., browsers, operating systems)? If so, please re-think your post!





mybearworld
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

NFlex23 wrote:

Very nice! I would suggest removing the “actually” marked below:

mybearworld wrote:

recommended not to actually prematurely announce
Thanks!

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Basilikos
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

Noted

sorry for bad english
medians
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

Did you make this because of this LOL
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/693573/
Edit: oh my god he did XDDDD

Last edited by medians (July 29, 2023 16:11:23)


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user1: That picture is from 2.0. Now he’s at my house and is my pet.
user2: But this is medians we're talking about, so “from 2.0” can mean the same thing as “from five seconds ago”.

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mybearworld
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

medians wrote:

(#10)
Did you make this because of this LOL
<link removed>
Edit: oh my god he did XDDDD
There've been a lot of occurrences of this lately, and Jayden had a good idea there

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DifferentDance8
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

New ATs Sticky?

Mod's Protogen Maker v2 released. I will update it when I will update it
mybearworld
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1000+ posts

Please don't announce projects before you release them.

DifferentDance8 wrote:

New ATs Sticky?
Yep!

Signatures are the only place where assets links still work.
Redstone1080
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1000+ posts

Please don't announce projects before you release them.

mybearworld wrote:

DifferentDance8 wrote:

New ATs Sticky?
Yep!
Last one was stickied Q1 2023, which was a couple months ago, but it definitely feels like forever

The oldest one is from 2013 (!) which means it's 10 years old (!!)

Last edited by Redstone1080 (July 30, 2023 13:24:09)


const juniper = programmer && musician;
// my pronouns are she/her
// i am trans and bi :P
// you can call me june or juni for short but i prefer juniper
python version:
juniper = programmer and musician
# my pronouns are she/her
# i am trans and bi :P
# you can call me june or juni for short but i prefer juniper
medians
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

Redstone1080 wrote:

mybearworld wrote:

DifferentDance8 wrote:

New ATs Sticky?
Yep!
Last one was stickied Q1 2023, which was a couple months ago, but it definitely feels like forever

The oldest one is from 2013 (!) which means it's 10 years old (!!)
Wait, 2013 was 10 years ago???? HOW
Also a few months really does not feel like forever

Last edited by medians (July 30, 2023 14:03:51)


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hi875230163394: You're similar to valve in that you both hate a certain number…
Scratch 0.x, 1.x, 2.x, 3.x and LogoBlocks Archives
Bamboozlement: https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/33739789
Years on internet: 15 (soon 16)
medians: Oh god not this utc - 12 thing again..
Fun_Cupcake_i81: What, were you expecting not to see the utc - 12 thing again? THE UTC - 12 THIGN ALWAYS RETURNS. ALWAYS.
medians: I knew it would happen. I was the one who started it last year.
Fun_Cupcake_i81: Well then if you didn't want it back maybe you need to time travel to last year and fix that

Oh wait if you could time travel I think we all know exactly when you would go-
user1: That picture is from 2.0. Now he’s at my house and is my pet.
user2: But this is medians we're talking about, so “from 2.0” can mean the same thing as “from five seconds ago”.

Detect Scratch version here
My other accounts: @selfexplanatory @modesties @chaircard @fireflyhero @dividendyield @colloids @radians @skeuamorphism @dihectogon @anglebisector @aau- @EditBlockColors @AdamantOrb @MoongeistBeam @festively @Ampharos_ @straightforwardness
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

wow this is one of the greatest jd idea.
Nice sticky.

VedanshS933
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

Congrats on the Sticky!



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mybearworld
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

VedanshS933 wrote:

(#17)
Congrats on the Sticky!
Thanks!

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applejuiceproduc
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Please don't announce projects before you release them.

How about posting links to the make the thing before announcing it memes?

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