IE Not Supported [UPDATED]

bittensboy

I know, but there are 28 MILLION people still using IE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"This is an example o- Internewt explorer not being supported?
yeah, i know, IE is retired, and Edge came in, as a result. How are people gonna use Scratch though if their only choice is IE?
So what's the answer? (Line 4) ▲▲▲▲⬆⬆

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pretty much no modern websites support ie anymore

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Za-Chary

bittensboy wrote:
I know, but there are 28 MILLION people still using IE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

28 million out of 4.66 billion people, if we're looking at the same source. That is 0.6% of people — not very many.

bittensboy wrote:
How are people gonna use Scratch though if their only choice is IE?

They will have to use a different Internet browser. That's just the way of life.

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bittensboy wrote:

I know, but there are 28 MILLION people still using IE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"This is an example o- Internewt explorer not being supported?
yeah, i know, IE is retired, and Edge came in, as a result. How are people gonna use Scratch though if their only choice is IE?
So what's the answer? (Line 4) ▲▲▲▲⬆⬆

And does that mean that those 28 million people only have Internet Explorer?

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WallydogChoppychop wrote:
And does that mean that those 28 million people only have Internet Explorer?

…
Well I'm not sure, but I bet that at least ½ of the 28 million people only have IE.
Scratch should atleast have an alternate solution.

skibidislicers_

Why not just install a different browser? It is not worth it to keep legacy systems like this alive.

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BigNate469

IE doesn't support many of the features required for Scratch 3.0 to work. If you want to use Scratch on IE, download it.
The fact is, those 28 million people need to use a different browser.

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qwertyy_the_artist

Microsoft wrote:
Support for Internet Explorer ended on June 15, 2022

microsoft support for ie almost two years ago now. there is no reason to support it in this day and age

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-gr

Microsoft dropped support for Internet Explorer and Microsoft Edge has replaced it. It's not Scratch's fault that IE doesn't work on Scratch, it uses features that IE doesn't support. However, the forums work, so I decided to post this using Internet Explorer. (It's not completely gone from Windows 11, with a simple VBScript you can launch it)

My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0 (Windows 11 23H2), Microsoft Internet Explorer 11.0, No Flash version detected

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-gr

bittensboy wrote:
WallydogChoppychop wrote:
And does that mean that those 28 million people only have Internet Explorer?
…
Well I'm not sure, but I bet that at least ½ of the 28 million people only have IE.
Scratch should atleast have an alternate solution.

Internet Explorer is still part of older versions of Windows 10. Chances are, people aren't using it, since Windows 10 includes Microsoft Edge and they're probably using a different browser. According to StatCounter, IE has less than 1% of browser market share, and it's not even on the chart anymore. At the end of 2020, it had only 2% of browser market share.

And Scratch does have an alternate solution. It's called the offline editor. You can download it here: https://scratch.mit.edu/download

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mybearworld

Hello from IE! My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Microsoft Internet Explorer 11.0, No Flash version detected

Scratch relies on technologies that Internet Explorer doesn't support, so this is not possible.

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bittensboy wrote:
How are people gonna use Scratch though if their only choice is IE?

Scratch offline editor

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julmik6478 wrote:
Scratch offline editor

what if they wanna upload projects
or post comments
or check messages
or modify their profile
or create a profile
or give a favorite or love on a project?
or play a project?

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bittensboy wrote:
julmik6478 wrote:
Scratch offline editor
what if they wanna upload projects
or post comments
or check messages
or modify their profile
or create a profile
or give a favorite or love on a project?
or play a project?

They will have to use a different Internet browser. That's just the way of life.

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julmik6478

bittensboy wrote:
julmik6478 wrote:
Scratch offline editor
what if they wanna upload projects
or post comments
or check messages
or modify their profile
or create a profile
or give a favorite or love on a project?
or play a project?

You can play projects on scratch players like turbowarp and forkphorus.

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bittensboy wrote:
How are people gonna use Scratch though if their only choice is IE?

only choice? every windows computer worth using anymore has edge on it

also, making an ie-supported scratch would take up so much time and resources and energy. it's just not worth it

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qwertyy_the_artist wrote:
bittensboy wrote:
How are people gonna use Scratch though if their only choice is IE?
only choice? every windows computer worth using anymore has edge on it

also, making an ie-supported scratch would take up so much time and resources and energy. it's just not worth it

True. In addition, Chrome maintains legacy launchers- going back to Windows XP (if I recall correctly, since I'm on an iPad I can't actually verify that at the moment)

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bittensboy wrote:
what if they wanna upload projects
or post comments
or check messages
or modify their profile
or create a profile
or give a favorite or love on a project?
or play a project?

Scratch 2.0 styled pages work on Internet Explorer because they are Scratch 2.0. They would be able to log in, create an account, verify their email address, access their My Stuff, change their settings, use the forums, and edit their profile. They would NOT be able to search the website (though this can be done through Google using `site:scratch.mit.edu`), read messages, create or view projects and studios, visit the home or explore pages, or visit any other Scratch 3.0 styled page.

It's possible project compilers such as TurboWarp and ForkPhorus might run on IE, but this is not guarenteed. As for TurboWarp, it seems to heavily rely on Scratch 3 UI elements, so I'm guessing it will not work. However, I haven't tested either in Internet Explorer.

julmik6478 wrote:
Scratch offline editor

The Scratch offline editor is made in Electron, which is based of Chromium. If the user can't install a version of Chrome that supports Scratch 3 on their OS, then the offline editor will most not likely be able to be installed (Electron is newer than the Chromium engine)

There is a JavaScript interpreter written in JavaScript, and it can be used to run ES6 code on older browsers (such as IE) however I'm not sure how hard that would be to be implemented into Scratch, and that could also possibly cause other compatibility issues.

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Your question is why. The answer is "why should they?" Do you know how much insane amount of work that would take?

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