Remove the trigonometry operators in the editor

0_009

Scratch is meant to be simple, except there are these six trigonometry operators that are complicated for new users.
The trigonometry operators are the sine, cosine, tangent, arcsine, arccosine and arctangent.
Removing these trigonometry operators would make Scratch more simple for new users.
The trigonometry operators are in

[ v] of () :: reporter operators

Last edited by 0_009 (March 17, 2024 03:46:02)

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GlitchedThrough

They're essential for anything more then thr simplest programs.
If kids are never exposed to trig they'll never use it.

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No thank you, I like being able to program smooth animation in projects.

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scratch is meant to be simple but complicated projects can still be made
and you learn this in school

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“Scratch is meant to be simple-” OBJECTION

Scratch is meant to be a Low Floor & High Celling Engine, which means it can be used by anybody to make simple projects while also having enough tools to create extremely complex projects !!
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The trigonometry operators are pretty much hidden away in a singular block & it's not like theres a requirement to use them for every project.

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0_009 wrote:
Scratch is meant to be simple, except there are these six trigonometry operators that are complicated for new users.

It is not meant to be simple, it is meant to be a programming language for kids.

0_009 wrote:
The trigonometry operators are the sine, cosine, tangent, arcsine, arccosine and arctangent.
Removing these trigonometry operators would make Scratch more simple for new users.

I see no need to remove them, it would help experienced users while newer users would not use it, and that is perfectly fine.

0_009 wrote:
The trigonometry operators are in
[ v] of () :: reporter operators

It is only in one block, meaning that it would be even easier for newer users to not use.

Za-Chary wrote:
No thank you, I like being able to program smooth animation in projects.

I don't understand. Isn't smooth animation just

repeat (10)
change [x velocity v] by (3)
change x by (x velocity)
set [x velocity v] to ((x velocity) * (0.8))
end

There is no need for trigonometry.

Last edited by TheUltimateHoodie (March 17, 2024 10:00:22)

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GlitchedThrough

TheUltimateHoodie wrote:
Za-Chary wrote:
No thank you, I like being able to program smooth animation in projects.
I don't understand. Isn't smooth animation just
repeat (10)
change [x velocity v] by (3)
change x by (x velocity)
set [x velocity v] to ((x velocity) * (0.8))
end
There is no need for trigonometry.

That ain't gonna be so smooth when it start lagging.

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I don't want to do taylor series for sin function no support.

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IceCreamTub wrote:
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This seems like a troll suggestion, as the trig blocks aren't mandatory, and therefore doesn't really affect the low floor and high ceiling aspect of Scratch.

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