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CSXRailroadFan wrote:

Random question: Why did CNW use gong bells on their locomotives?

It was a personal preference by the CNW, and also by the DT&I.
They both used “gong bells” embedded in the nose of the locomotives rather than under the frame next to the front set of trucks, or up next to the headlight. The gong bells were louder and more pronounced than the stock locomotive steel bells, making them much easier to hear coming. They sounded like older-grade crossing bells, just a little slower. Most references that I have seen said that they rang at about 75 rings per minute, or a little more than one ring per second. Interestingly, all the C&NW's gons were “trainlined” meaning that if the engineer rang the bell in the lead locomotive, all of the gongs on the locomotives would ring, not just the lead unit. While this was good when operating with C&NW units, when foreign units were involved there were issues. At one point, the C&NW leased a group of Chessie System units. Acuating the gong on the C&NW unit led to some strange and undesirable effects on the gong-less Chessie units. This is what led to UP replacing all of the gongs with ordinary EMD steel bells on the ex-CNW units after the merger.

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The soo line sacrificed one of their 4-4-0s to make this ugly thing

I'd like to join.

Appleheads1 wrote:

I'd like to join.

invited

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who invited the brits into the us for locomotive engineering

CSXRailroadFan wrote:

Does anybody know what happened to CSX 7520?

According to a forum reply on Loconotes.com, it was involved in a wreck in Cutting, Georgia, in 1997, and was severely damaged. Roster records show that after the wreck it was “recommended for retirement”. No photographs exist (Apart from ones with incorrect dates) of the locomotive after this wreck, and it can reasonably be deduced that it was broken up for scrap.

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A goofy New England hidden gem

timboiloloffical wrote:

A goofy New England hidden gem

That grade looks crazy

AK4NamedWilliam wrote:

CSXRailroadFan wrote:

Random question: Why did CNW use gong bells on their locomotives?

It was a personal preference by the CNW, and also by the DT&I.
They both used “gong bells” embedded in the nose of the locomotives rather than under the frame next to the front set of trucks, or up next to the headlight. The gong bells were louder and more pronounced than the stock locomotive steel bells, making them much easier to hear coming. They sounded like older-grade crossing bells, just a little slower. Most references that I have seen said that they rang at about 75 rings per minute, or a little more than one ring per second. Interestingly, all the C&NW's gons were “trainlined” meaning that if the engineer rang the bell in the lead locomotive, all of the gongs on the locomotives would ring, not just the lead unit. While this was good when operating with C&NW units, when foreign units were involved there were issues. At one point, the C&NW leased a group of Chessie System units. Acuating the gong on the C&NW unit led to some strange and undesirable effects on the gong-less Chessie units. This is what led to UP replacing all of the gongs with ordinary EMD steel bells on the ex-CNW units after the merger.

I know no one asked, but Illinois Terminal also used them, as well as North Shore Line. Doesn't seem like the gong would be louder than a nose/roof mounted traditional bell. The issue with traditional bells being ‘quiet’ is that they are mounted underneath them frame, and the sound can't project forward and is dispersed throughout the undercarriage. That trainline sounds like a pretty strange idea, and would only be useful for reverse power moves…

CN-GMD-1 wrote:

AK4NamedWilliam wrote:

CSXRailroadFan wrote:

Random question: Why did CNW use gong bells on their locomotives?

It was a personal preference by the CNW, and also by the DT&I.
They both used “gong bells” embedded in the nose of the locomotives rather than under the frame next to the front set of trucks, or up next to the headlight. The gong bells were louder and more pronounced than the stock locomotive steel bells, making them much easier to hear coming. They sounded like older-grade crossing bells, just a little slower. Most references that I have seen said that they rang at about 75 rings per minute, or a little more than one ring per second. Interestingly, all the C&NW's gons were “trainlined” meaning that if the engineer rang the bell in the lead locomotive, all of the gongs on the locomotives would ring, not just the lead unit. While this was good when operating with C&NW units, when foreign units were involved there were issues. At one point, the C&NW leased a group of Chessie System units. Acuating the gong on the C&NW unit led to some strange and undesirable effects on the gong-less Chessie units. This is what led to UP replacing all of the gongs with ordinary EMD steel bells on the ex-CNW units after the merger.

I know no one asked, but Illinois Terminal also used them, as well as North Shore Line. Doesn't seem like the gong would be louder than a nose/roof mounted traditional bell. The issue with traditional bells being ‘quiet’ is that they are mounted underneath them frame, and the sound can't project forward and is dispersed throughout the undercarriage. That trainline sounds like a pretty strange idea, and would only be useful for reverse power moves…

That's what I was referring to, with the sound projection, I just thought that came across in my original message. Evidently, it did not. Also, thanks for the tidbit about the Illinois Terminal and North Shore Line. In regards to the “trainlined” gongs, I have no idea why C&NW did that apart from, again, personal preference.

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CSXRailroadFan wrote:

What is going to happen to the locomotives that are still stored at former NREX Slivis Shops?

they are going to get scrapped probably if they aren't already

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POLE QUESTION: Are any of you interested in me publishing lore projects for my own fictional shortline? I have published two projects depicting maps of two primary locations along the right of way, and I am looking to publish more. However, if you all do not want to see that sort of stuff from me, I can remove those projects. So, what do you all think I should do?

No particular interest, but you can do it if you'd like.

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