Make Gobo, Giga, Pico, Nano have more memorizable names

kentkoide

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kentkoide wrote:
musicROCKS013 wrote:
Personally, I don’t see why it’s important that new scratchers need to memorize these mascots’ name.
Well, just discontinue all 4 mascots, leaving only scratch cat instead.
Why the heck would we do that? Do you have a grudge against the mascots? Did they steal your Cheezits? What happened that made you decide they should be renamed or removed?

Only one mascot can be ideal for a kids website.

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musicROCKS013

Unity_and_Cq wrote:
It's called an EASTER EGG. You won't pick up on it if you don't look for it. It's fun

It tells you in the sprite library. This isn’t exactly an Easter egg. Plus, this is discussing the memorization of the names, not letting them be clearer to learn.

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kentkoide wrote:
musicROCKS013 wrote:
kentkoide wrote:
Yeah, numbers are easier to remember.
The debate here is really just this:

What matters more? Fun or memorization?
I think fun, but memorization is also important and really matters.

If you had fun with the names, you'd remember them. Plus, the names aren't so long. It's really not as difficult as you are making it.

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musicROCKS013

kentkoide wrote:
Only one mascot can be ideal for a kids website.

Ideal in what way? What are you even arguing anymore?? First you want to change their names, now remove the mascots entirely?

What do you have against the mascots?

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musicROCKS013 wrote:
kentkoide wrote:
Only one mascot can be ideal for a kids website.
Ideal in what way? What are you even arguing anymore?? First you want to change their names, now remove the mascots entirely?

What do you have against the mascots?

Yeah… does anything have 1 mascot????????

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kentkoide

Unity_and_Cq wrote:
kentkoide wrote:
musicROCKS013 wrote:
kentkoide wrote:
Yeah, numbers are easier to remember.
The debate here is really just this:

What matters more? Fun or memorization?
I think fun, but memorization is also important and really matters.
If you had fun with the names, you'd remember them. Plus, the names aren't so long. It's really not as difficult as you are making it.

But when you’re suddenly came up with those names and show them to new users, it could be confusing.

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kentkoide

musicROCKS013 wrote:
kentkoide wrote:
Only one mascot can be ideal for a kids website.
Ideal in what way? What are you even arguing anymore?? First you want to change their names, now remove the mascots entirely?

What do you have against the mascots?

If nobody agrees on changing their names, then just delete them.

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Unity_and_Cq

kentkoide wrote:
Unity_and_Cq wrote:
kentkoide wrote:
musicROCKS013 wrote:
kentkoide wrote:
Yeah, numbers are easier to remember.
The debate here is really just this:

What matters more? Fun or memorization?
I think fun, but memorization is also important and really matters.
If you had fun with the names, you'd remember them. Plus, the names aren't so long. It's really not as difficult as you are making it.
But when you’re suddenly came up with those names and show them to new users, it could be confusing.

Ok? The blocks are confusing too so why don't we get rid of those? Oh but text is even harder so we should make the workstation a white background. No matter what you do, it's always going to be confusing. They get over it or don't.

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musicROCKS013

kentkoide wrote:
But when you’re suddenly came up with those names and show them to new users, it could be confusing.

Change everyone’s username to “Scratcher_[scratcher ID]” because it’s easier to learn and less confusing.

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kentkoide wrote:
If nobody agrees on changing their names, then just delete them.

This is just turning into one of those, “If I can’t enjoy it then nobody should be able to enjoy it.” arguments.

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kentkoide

musicROCKS013 wrote:
kentkoide wrote:
But when you’re suddenly came up with those names and show them to new users, it could be confusing.
Change everyone’s username to “Scratcher_[scratcher ID]” because it’s easier to learn and less confusing.

More confusing since there are billions of scratchers. But those mascots are only 4 right?

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inform everybody about the death about the evil kumquats
make more games
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Unity_and_Cq

kentkoide wrote:
musicROCKS013 wrote:
kentkoide wrote:
But when you’re suddenly came up with those names and show them to new users, it could be confusing.
Change everyone’s username to “Scratcher_[scratcher ID]” because it’s easier to learn and less confusing.
More confusing since there are billions of scratchers. But those mascots are only 4 right?

…and what about Neigh Pony? And all the other sprites? Will they get renamed to “Sprite 1” because remember Unicorn is too hard?

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musicROCKS013

kentkoide wrote:
More confusing since there are billions of scratchers. But those mascots are only 4 right?

It’s not hard to learn the names. Even if it was, it doesn’t matter anyways.

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kentkoide

Unity_and_Cq wrote:
kentkoide wrote:
musicROCKS013 wrote:
kentkoide wrote:
But when you’re suddenly came up with those names and show them to new users, it could be confusing.
Change everyone’s username to “Scratcher_[scratcher ID]” because it’s easier to learn and less confusing.
More confusing since there are billions of scratchers. But those mascots are only 4 right?
…and what about Neigh Pony? And all the other sprites? Will they get renamed to “Sprite 1” because remember Unicorn is too hard?

Neigh pony isn’t even a mascot!

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HeliosTheSuperior

I'd have a much harder time remembering which character is which number.
Plus, “monster 1” is NOT a name. This would literally make them no longer characters and just a design. Which isn't really important, but yk.
Also, it's way too late in Scratch's development to rename such iconic characters who have been here so early in development.
This isn't even an issue, it's not like you have to remember these names to use Scratch.

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Unity_and_Cq

HeliosTheSuperior wrote:
This isn't even an issue, it's not like you have to remember these names to use Scratch.

True. If you just look for it in the sprite list, you'll find it eventually.

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RL1123

To be honest, I think that renaming the mascots would give more memorization to the people currently on Scratch as they have to relearn the “names” again. These names have been the same for many, many years and there's really no point in changing them.

By the way, the names for Gobo's Friends are derived from metric prefixes for powers of 10:

“Pico” means 10 to the −12th
“Nano” means 10 to the −9th
“Giga” means 10 to the 9th
“Tera” means 10to the 12th

kentkoide wrote:
Well, just discontinue all 4 mascots, leaving only scratch cat instead.

through tough thorough thought, though

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musicROCKS013

Honestly, if this was implemented (renaming them, not removing them) I would still call them by their metric prefix names. I don’t think this would really change anything, but confuse new scratchers about why people are saying metric prefixes and who “Tera” and “Pico” are.

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kentkoide

RL1123 wrote:
To be honest, I think that renaming the mascots would give more memorization to the people currently on Scratch as they have to relearn the “names” again. These names have been the same for many, many years and there's really no point in changing them.

By the way, the names for Gobo's Friends are derived from metric prefixes for powers of 10:
“Pico” means 10 to the −12th
“Nano” means 10 to the −9th
“Giga” means 10 to the 9th
“Tera” means 10to the 12th

kentkoide wrote:
Well, just discontinue all 4 mascots, leaving only scratch cat instead.

Well, if you introduce somebody’s name first, it could be confusing

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when green flag clicked
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if <[followers and views] > [1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000]> then
become happy
play sound [Soviet March ]
go to [scratchstats.org ]
if <(kumquat) = (near?) > then
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inform everybody about the death about the evil kumquats
make more games
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HeliosTheSuperior

kentkoide wrote:
RL1123 wrote:
To be honest, I think that renaming the mascots would give more memorization to the people currently on Scratch as they have to relearn the “names” again. These names have been the same for many, many years and there's really no point in changing them.

By the way, the names for Gobo's Friends are derived from metric prefixes for powers of 10:
“Pico” means 10 to the −12th
“Nano” means 10 to the −9th
“Giga” means 10 to the 9th
“Tera” means 10to the 12th

kentkoide wrote:
Well, just discontinue all 4 mascots, leaving only scratch cat instead.

Well, if you introduce somebody’s name first, it could be confusing
Uhhh no it wouldn't be?????????????
Most names are like 4 syllables most but it's usually lower than that and the mascots all have 2 syllable names which are very easy to pronounce (I think it's all IPA pronounciation except maybe Nano???).

You see, sensei~
I love how deep your voice can get. I've been recording and collecting it as MP3s.
I've gone absolutely crazy. From the Internet, I downloaded Audacity.
Cutting, pasting, until it was complete.
“Sensei whispering his love to me.mp3” <3

Hello, I'm Helios and I use they/xe/he >:^)
I'm an artist and a writer and I do cool stuff. :P
I'm currently working on my first-person story Teacher's Pet Chronicles! The story is about a girl who tells on one student, and then becomes thirsty to tattle on them all! But some classmates aren't easy targets, some are almost impossible to tattle on. Can she remove all of them from the classroom? Will her teacher notice her actions? Hmm…
I'm also working on a collection of poems called “I Wish I Were Them”. It's about a boy who is obsessed with the lives of others.

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