See inside button on phones

ComputerLevel

Hi! So sorry if this is a dupe, I couldn't find any…
So, right now, if you are on a phone, you cannot see inside unless you go to scratch.mit.edu/projects/PROJECTID/editor or you turn on “desktop site”. Both of these reloads the project, which is very annoying. In addition, sometimes designing art is better when desktop site is off, but the project needs to be played in the not project editor on not full screen, in which you have to go to the project page, then go back by adding “/editor” to the URL, then again… It's a hassle. Plus, the solution is simple; just make it so that the “See Inside” button is not off-screen on mobile.

Also, please don't say “Scratch isn't for phones” and other * like that (the asterisk is intentional). It's been repeated, and thoroughly disproven. Please offer constructive criticism. Thank you.

Last edited by ComputerLevel (July 19, 2022 12:19:29)

RED-001-alt

Just don't use a phone, Scratch is not meant for it, that's all I can say.

-Valtren-

it is there(even on phones, I would know. during a desperate situation I had to make an edit to a project using a phone and was perfectly able to see inside). also thoroughly disproven? give me proof that it's been disproven. phones have very little processing power, very little display size, and are just horrible at running projects. you do have to admit that no one expected people to run projects on phones. I would suggest using a computer or at least a tablet if possible(and if you don't have either, then idk what to say).

Sliverus

It is there but you have to rotate your phone a certain way

+1 for having the button there any way you turn it, it's so annoying, and some users like SSB20 can't even use a computer

ComputerLevel

RED-001-alt wrote:
Just don't use a phone, Scratch is not meant for it, that's all I can say.

ComputerLevel wrote:
Also, please don't say “Scratch isn't for phones”

-Valtren- wrote:
also thoroughly disproven? give me proof

Okay, story time. I had a friend IRL named @ILikeProggraming123, and although she is now inactive, when she was active, she made all of her projects on mobile, like this one, this one, this one, and this one, to name a few.

Sliverus wrote:
It is there but you have to rotate your phone a certain way

+1 for having the button there any way you turn it, it's so annoying, and some users like SSB20 can't even use a computer

Thanks for the tip, however my suggestion is to have the button any way you turn it.
Edit: typo

Last edited by ComputerLevel (July 13, 2022 19:27:37)

Sliverus

ComputerLevel wrote:
Sliverus wrote:
It is there but you have to rotate your phone a certain way

+1 for having the button there any way you turn it, it's so annoying, and some users like SSB20 can't even use a computer
Thanks for the tip, however my suggestion is to have the button any way
you turn it.
Edit: typo

Yeah I understand. +1, there's literally no reason not to support it, even though there's a workaround (use another device) it's not possible for all users and it ruins the quality it has on mobile and it's confusing for Scratchers, especially new ones

Even if any users would try to find reasons to not support it, the pros definitely outweigh any minor cons here

ComputerLevel

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zparkly

it's there?

vudeptrai090211

I thought mobile devices are already having that button.
If not, support, let's make scratch easy to use on every devices! Like for people who don't have computers, they can use a phone to program!

ComputerLevel

zparkly wrote:
it's there?

On certain devices it looks like this:

zparkly

that's odd. if they're going to add it on some, they should just add it to all.

ComputerLevel

zparkly wrote:
that's odd. if they're going to add it on some, they should just add it to all.

Yes, that is what this suggestion is for.

RED-001-alt

Its just being blocked out because the person with the button's phones bigger. If you really want to get the button back, then use the desktop site button.

ComputerLevel

RED-001-alt wrote:
Its just being blocked out because the person with the button's phones bigger. If you really want to get the button back, then use the desktop site button.

ComputerLevel wrote:
you cannot see inside unless <snip> you turn on “desktop site”. Both of these reloads the project, which is very annoying. In addition, sometimes designing art is better when desktop site is off, but the project needs to be played in the not project editor on not full screen, in which you have to go to the project page, then go back by adding “/editor” to the URL, then again… It's a hassle.

RED-001-alt

Don't use a phone for this then. If you don't have anything else but a phone, then still don't use it for Scratch.

ComputerLevel

RED-001-alt wrote:
Don't use a phone for this then. If you don't have anything else but a phone, then still don't use it for Scratch.

ComputerLevel wrote:
Also, please don't say “Scratch isn't for phones”

RED-001-alt

RED-001-alt wrote:
Just don't use a phone, Scratch is not meant for it, that's all I can say.

Sliverus

RED-001-alt wrote:
RED-001-alt wrote:
Just don't use a phone, Scratch is not meant for it, that's all I can say.

Some people don't even have access to a computer, also why NOT add a see inside button on mobile? Give me one good reason why you think the site would get worse if we added a see inside button on mobile

DinoMaster20

Scratch just isn't meant for mobile. For all we know, a mobile Scratch is in the makings, but I can assure you ST isn't going to waste time on this.

RED-001-alt

Sliverus wrote:
Some people don't even have access to a computer, also why NOT add a see inside button on mobile? Give me one good reason why you think the site would get worse if we added a see inside button on mobile

I never said it would get worse, I said there wouldn't be a point, you shouldn't even use Scratch on a phone. Again, even if all you have is a phone, still don't use Scratch on it. The Scratch app isn't even available on Google Play for phones because using it would be terrible (even worse than a tablet).

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